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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 07-15-2007, 10:20 PM Thread Starter
 
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I spent last weekend, 7th and 8th, and this weekend, 14th and 15th, at the MSF in Champaign. It was horrible, all I heard was a repeat of what most of the people here have been spouting at all the newbs. Be smooth, don't ride over your head, look through the turn, gear up, etc.

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So in 2-3 weeks I will get my waiver, head to the DMV and get my M class. After 2 years on a permit and 15xx miles I have finally realized the dream


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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 07-15-2007, 10:22 PM
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Congrats. I would suggest the Ride Chicago SRTT class towards the end of riding season or to start next year off. It will be a whole new experience.

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next up is to def hit up one of kens classes...ive heard nothing but great things and if enough of us threaten to kick his ass then he will have to teach us

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The 125's may have been too powerfull for him.
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Why was it horrible?
because everything talked about in the class had already been said and told to me and everyone else who took the time to read the articles posted here or Ken's write-ups about riding safely and everyone else's comments. It was a backhanded compliment to the people of CLSB, guess it was just too subtle for some to get

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The 125's may have been too powerfull for him.
it was actually 250s, Nighthawks and Rebels. A couple of Yamaha TWs, thumpers that sounded like a hell of a time if you could get them out and open them up. Now my 500 has scared me a couple of times but that's a different story
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I'm signed up to take MSF in Sept. but I think I'm just going to take the DMV exam in a couple of weeks. At least you get a break on insurance with the MSF class.
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I'm signed up to take MSF in Sept. but I think I'm just going to take the DMV exam in a couple of weeks. At least you get a break on insurance with the MSF class.
Even if you pass the DMV test, there is still purpose in taking an MSF class. There are techniques and skills that you learn from formal teaching that you are likely not going to get from yourself, or learning from friends.

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Anyone know any classes that aren't booked through the summer???
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I'm still going to take the class but I'm pretty sure I can pass the exam so I'm gonna get my license so I don't have to be paranoid whenever I see a cop. As far as the classes go, I sent my app to reserve a spot within 3 days of the schedule going up and I still got a date in Sept.
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my mom and I signed up as stand-bys and I think 5 confirmed students didn't show so we got in along with 3 walk-ins. Like people have said, the further away from the city you get the more likely you are to get in
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Anyone know any classes that aren't booked through the summer???
The one at Great Lakes reserves a number of spots for military personel. Not that many use the spots so they often have more openings than the average class.

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Go to the classes at CLC. During this time of the year, ppl tend to forget that they signed up. The last 2 weeks I've made friends go and there has been 15 spots open for walkins.

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Man, it took me about three months to get into the MSF...but then again, I was trying to get in as a Walk In since the first class of the Season at COD (COD being one of the more popular sites).

Caterpillar factory does MSF BRC (Basic Rider Course)
College of DuPage (as I said, and which is fantastic)
Allstate building off 294 I've been told has MSF as well

I used to know 4-5 different locations, but I've forgotten them all...sorry.

MSF was great. Peanut went from being scared of her Ninja 250 (and almost hitting two cars in 20') to teaching me to be a better rider after one weekend. Truly amazing the change in her riding in just one weekend.

I got tired of not getting into the class because not winning the raffle (5 open spots and 33 Walk Ins!!!) and just went to the DMV and got my license on my SV650. Not everyone can past the test on a 500cc and bigger sport bike, and there the class helps as well.

Though I passed the DMV test and got my M Class, I kept hitting COD MSF class till I got in. I had continued practicing the basic skills right up to the morning I finally started riding in class. I passed the test with a perfect...the only other person in class to do that was a Naperville cop who has riding experience (made me proud to score perfect).

MSF also got me $20 off each 6 months of my insurance (I think that's how much it was).

The instructors were a little more strict with me because I was already above the curve in experience. While I had all the basic skills the class typically teaches, they knocked some bad habbits out, and help me tighten down my skills. They also let me open up a little more as long as I was being safe.

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As silly as it sounds, Power Walking (walking the bike under power). I tried not to do this because I thought I looked like a tard...but then I realized dropping the bike would look even more stupid.

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They helped me tighten up my emergency/panic stop and throttling through turns.

Fantastic class, and I can see why some people go back and take it as a refresher course at the beginning of the season, or after several years away from the bike.

I can't wait to improve my skills in Ken's class!!

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yeah deffinitly good class and yes Great Lakes holds seats for military, some classes have more seats held then others. I think this coming weekend is a class and I know a guy that is signed up and won't be making it. so there is an opening right there. You can always pay the big bucks and go take the class at a HD dealership, they use buell's i think for the class.

Its been a few years since I took the BRC and I'm thinking I need to either take it again soon, or watch for Ken's next session and hope I can make it.
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yeah deffinitly good class and yes Great Lakes holds seats for military, some classes have more seats held then others. I think this coming weekend is a class and I know a guy that is signed up and won't be making it. so there is an opening right there. You can always pay the big bucks and go take the class at a HD dealership, they use buell's i think for the class.

Its been a few years since I took the BRC and I'm thinking I need to either take it again soon, or watch for Ken's next session and hope I can make it.
The Hardly class does not get you an Endorsement. You need to make sure a representitive from the DMV is giving the the IDOT approved test at the last day of class, otherwise you are paying $300 to just get some practice in and take the test at the DMV anyways.

Though, it would be fun to beat up on a Buell Blast or whatever they use.

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I spent last weekend, 7th and 8th, and this weekend, 14th and 15th, at the MSF in Champaign. It was horrible, all I heard was a repeat of what most of the people here have been spouting at all the newbs. Be smooth, don't ride over your head, look through the turn, gear up, etc.

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So in 2-3 weeks I will get my waiver, head to the DMV and get my M class. After 2 years on a permit and 15xx miles I have finally realized the dream

I'm confused... why did it take you two weekends to complete the course and why do you have to wait 2-3 weeks to obtain the waiver?? Did something change in the last 3 years? I took the MSF course 3 years ago and I went Friday night and all day Saturday and Sunday for one weekend and I left on Sunday with my waiver and went to the DMV the next morning and got my M-Class...

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I'm confused... why did it take you two weekends to complete the course and why do you have to wait 2-3 weeks to obtain the waiver?? Did something change in the last 3 years? I took the MSF course 3 years ago and I went Friday night and all day Saturday and Sunday for one weekend and I left on Sunday with my waiver and went to the DMV the next morning and got my M-Class...
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Different loacations have different scheduling... I think they are now mailing out the certificate for the class though.
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I'm confused... why did it take you two weekends to complete the course and why do you have to wait 2-3 weeks to obtain the waiver?? Did something change in the last 3 years? I took the MSF course 3 years ago and I went Friday night and all day Saturday and Sunday for one weekend and I left on Sunday with my waiver and went to the DMV the next morning and got my M-Class...
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