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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-25-2007, 09:53 PM Thread Starter
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This guy was bad mouthing Survivor Man too.

Discovery's "Wild" man not so brave: report
By Andrew Wallenstein July 23, 2007 at 9:35 pm

Discovery Channel is re-evaluating one of its most popular series, "Man vs. Wild," after allegations surfaced that its survival-expert host was bunking in motels when he was supposed to be braving the great outdoors.

The network issued a statement Monday in response to an investigation launched by British television network Channel 4, which carries the program under the title "Born Survivor: Bear Grylls." Channel 4 confirmed that host Bear Grylls had partaken of indoor accommodations on at least two occasions when his series had depicted him spending the night in the wild.

"Discovery Communications has learned that isolated elements of the 'Man vs. Wild' show in some episodes were not natural to the environment, and that for health and safety concerns the crew and host received some survival assistance while in the field," the network said in a statement.



The production company behind the series, Diverse Television, is cooperating with the Channel 4 investigation, which likely will address a range of allegations that called into question "Wild's" authenticity.

In each episode of the series, Grylls is airlifted into the wilderness with only a few tools to aid in his survival, such as a flint or water bottle. A former British special forces soldier, Grylls is typically depicted as subsisting for several days without intervention or interruption while cameramen follow him offscreen. He has been stranded all over the globe, including Utah's Moab desert and the Costa Rican rain forest.

But among the charges made against Grylls is that a raft he is depicted as having built himself actually was constructed and then disassembled by consultants to the show in order for the host to put it together. In another episode, Grylls happens upon what are referred to as wild horses that were said to be brought in from a trekking station.

The brouhaha could become a PR nightmare for the channel, which in recent years has abandoned contrived unscripted formats in favor of the scientific explorations that first made the Discovery brand famous. "Wild" in particular has emerged as one of its main attractions during the past two seasons.

But the company gave no indication about parting ways with the series, only making certain unspecified alterations.

"Moving forward, the program will be 100% transparent and all elements of the filming will be explained upfront to our viewers," Discovery said. "In addition, shows that are to be repeated will be edited appropriately. Bear Grylls is a world-class adventurer and a terrific talent."

A spokeswoman for Discovery declined to elaborate on what exact measures will be taken to address the concerns raised about "Wild."

Among the likely possibilities: a disclaimer that will precede each episode explaining that some of the events being depicted are dramatized.

On July 13, Grylls spoke at the Television Critics Assn. summer press tour in Los Angeles about production of the series but gave little hint of any shenanigans behind the scenes. At one point, he described what it was like to bed down in the wild.

"Often at nighttime, they will get helicoptered out, and they might have to recharge camera batteries and hand in footage, and then they leave me a little minicamera for the night stuff, and they come and rejoin me in the morning," he said.

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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-25-2007, 10:11 PM
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I had a feeling about that. I prefer Survivor man to Man vs Wild. I was glad to see an ad for the new season today.

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Trust me......if Bear is/was British SAS, he can survive anywhere, he's just gone soft in civilian life . Did he badmouth the survivor man? The survivorman show is more realistic, as Bear seems to take more risks than he has to for the sake of the show.
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Where did Bear 'badmouth' Les Stroud?

Considering he's towing a camera/sound crew with him I'm not surprised that some evening they got out of the elements. They film for a week or so on location to get the 'couple days' of footage. He doesn't happen across all those opportunities in the course of one day. Just like I guarantee that Surviorman had a GPS tracking device on him in the raft/tropical island episode. These guys aren't about to risk their lives for a TV show.

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i read about this. I'd rather rough it with survivorman, he's truly hardcore.

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As far as a TV show, I like Man Vs. Wild over Survivor Man. I will agree that Survivor Man is much more realistic, I think Man Vs. Wild is better television.
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i read about this. I'd rather rough it with survivorman, he's truly hardcore.
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It was on the O&A show he was saying stuff.

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I saw that MvW episode with the raft and the horse...I'm like "why does it look like that raft was ready made for him? And why would a "wild" horse be in a forest enclosed prairie alone??

It seemed to fake to me.

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I don't care how fake or not fake the show might be, he has still showed some valuable tips and hints for staying alive. Also anyone who can do the below is still a BAMF in my book.

"Grylls, a former member of the Special Air Service (SAS), made his name in 1998 by becoming, at the age of 23, the youngest Briton to climb Mount Everest and return alive."

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I don't care how fake or not fake the show might be, he has still showed some valuable tips and hints for staying alive. Also anyone who can do the below is still a BAMF in my book.

"Grylls, a former member of the Special Air Service (SAS), made his name in 1998 by becoming, at the age of 23, the youngest Briton to climb Mount Everest and return alive."
Not saying the dude isn't a BAMF, just bugged me that the show looked staged...It lowers the level of believability in the skills shown and raises your expectations should you really need to use them.

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As said before it's only a "show". The guy does show very good things for people to survive in the wild. The guy is an accomplished outdoors man and far from "not so brave" see link below.


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Anyone that can eat raw Zebra meat is still pretty tough!!!

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One time Grylls caught a fish and bit into it raw like he was eating an apple or something.
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So, this guy is more bad ass than Chuck Norris?
Nope. Chuck Norris once bit into a live rat while he was hung from his feet and had his hands tied. Now that is bad ass.

I had a hunch Bear Grylls had some aid. He was just in too good spirits and shape.

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Anyone that can eat raw Zebra meat is still pretty tough!!!
Raw Zebra meat doesn't make you tough. Bite into a maggot infested roadkill possum and that will put some hair on your chest.

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while i am no expert, but was trained. there is some big differances in things i see him doing that i would not do and have learned its wise NOT to do.

biggest issue is him tromping through water pools and what not. with no concern or explaining the purpose of keeping your feet dry, and OR if need be to dry out your boots, and socks.

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MvW has a camera crew, doesn't survivorman carry all of his own equipment. I've never watched much of either one, but the suvivorman show I watched he had to carry all of his camera stuff and record all of it on his own. This to me makes it a little better.
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hmm..i cant remember which one, but the guy was in the outback, and drank his own piss to keep hydrated. nasty stuff

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That was Bear.

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Soft? You drink water from elephant shit, eat a deer eyeball, jump into arctic water, drink your own piss, eat larva. I love this show! I am not expecting superman here, just a few tips to help me out when I get lost in my own back yard.
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