Another trailer thread.. - Chicagoland Sportbikes
Chicagoland Sportbikes
 
Open Forum This forum is for all off-topic discussion.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
BEER!
 
Grover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Posts: 5,970
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Sportbike: '01 SV650S (Pokey!) '02 Honda CR125 (Blockhead)
Years Riding: 5
How you found us: SBN
           
Send a message via AIM to Grover
Another trailer thread..

Okay folks..

Going to Master Hitch tomorrow to get a trailer hitch put on. Now, how much does a trailer weigh?

My '97 GTP should be able to pull a trailer and two bikes pretty easily. Hell, Cherrypicker's little Toyota can do that, and my car's got 60 ponies on it.

I can get a hitch rated at 2000 lbs, but is that enough? I figure 900 lbs for 2 bikes.

Or should I just get a higher rated hitch?

Chris

NESBA/CCS #142
AIM: GroverSV650S
Dirtbikes are not submarines
Grover is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 05:30 PM
freaking newbies, man there slow, ha ha ha
 
CRAZe Inc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 6,842
Location: San Francisco
Sportbike: Big Wheel
Years Riding: Since 3
How you found us: This is required?
           
i'd get the 3500lbs hitch just to be safe....then again I pulled over 2500lbs with my sis's explorer. It had a 3500lbs rated tow hitch, but a 2000lbs rated tow ball.... I guess I like to live life dangerously
CRAZe Inc is offline  
post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 05:31 PM
Evil Moderatrix
 
KBOlsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Posts: 8,030
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Sportbike: A Big Blue One, a threesome of Sexy Red Ones - and a Happy Yellow One!
Years Riding: Quarter century.
How you found us: I was looking for Jimmy Choo's in my shoe closet.
           
Send a message via AIM to KBOlsen
Bigger is always better.

Kim
CCS AM #815 - the cute, fuzzy, yellow, spoiled-rotten half of Team Duc Tape!
I break stuff
Duck, duck, duck, GUZ!
KBOlsen is offline  
post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 05:35 PM
Registered User
 
leavundst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Mundelein, IL
Posts: 980
Location: Mundelein, IL
Sportbike: 2005 busa; Husky 610E
Years Riding: 9
How you found us: Jesus
           
Quote:
Originally posted by KBOlsen
Bigger is always better.
always always or always most of the time??
leavundst is offline  
post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 05:38 PM
Evil Moderatrix
 
KBOlsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Posts: 8,030
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Sportbike: A Big Blue One, a threesome of Sexy Red Ones - and a Happy Yellow One!
Years Riding: Quarter century.
How you found us: I was looking for Jimmy Choo's in my shoe closet.
           
Send a message via AIM to KBOlsen



Grover - stop by the house and see what John says.

Kim
CCS AM #815 - the cute, fuzzy, yellow, spoiled-rotten half of Team Duc Tape!
I break stuff
Duck, duck, duck, GUZ!
KBOlsen is offline  
post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 05:56 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 669
     
Grover, you want something with a 2inch reciver, that would be a Class 3/4. Your putting it on a Grand Prix? I'd say put it on yourself if it doesn't involve droupping anything.

I set my heep up with a hidden hitch class 3/4 from JC Whitney, cheepest around baby. It can handel more then the truck, but the toung weight rateing is less then that of a true class 4, so I guess mine would be a 3. Its funny they don't really sell them that way, they group them as class 3/4.
Nick 600 F3 is offline  
post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 05:58 PM
Evil Moderatrix
 
KBOlsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Posts: 8,030
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Sportbike: A Big Blue One, a threesome of Sexy Red Ones - and a Happy Yellow One!
Years Riding: Quarter century.
How you found us: I was looking for Jimmy Choo's in my shoe closet.
           
Send a message via AIM to KBOlsen
Actually, I think the trailer is only 500 lbs. or so, if that much. Doubt you'll be pulling more than 1,500 lbs with two bikes.

Kim
CCS AM #815 - the cute, fuzzy, yellow, spoiled-rotten half of Team Duc Tape!
I break stuff
Duck, duck, duck, GUZ!
KBOlsen is offline  
post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 06:02 PM Thread Starter
BEER!
 
Grover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Posts: 5,970
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Sportbike: '01 SV650S (Pokey!) '02 Honda CR125 (Blockhead)
Years Riding: 5
How you found us: SBN
           
Send a message via AIM to Grover
Kim,

I'll stop by tonight sometime. Ain't got shit else to do! I want to see what's up with the Tiller anyways. It's looking like the 3500 lb one may be better, especially if I plan on hauling an enclosed trailer sometime. I plan on keeping the car till the wheels (or tranny) fall out.

Nick, I'd rather have them put it on. I'm really no good with that type of stuff, anything more than an oil change on my car and I'll probably screw it up.

Chris

NESBA/CCS #142
AIM: GroverSV650S
Dirtbikes are not submarines
Grover is offline  
post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 06:04 PM
Evil Moderatrix
 
KBOlsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Posts: 8,030
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Sportbike: A Big Blue One, a threesome of Sexy Red Ones - and a Happy Yellow One!
Years Riding: Quarter century.
How you found us: I was looking for Jimmy Choo's in my shoe closet.
           
Send a message via AIM to KBOlsen
Kewl! Guess I'll leave here at a decent time, then.

Kim
CCS AM #815 - the cute, fuzzy, yellow, spoiled-rotten half of Team Duc Tape!
I break stuff
Duck, duck, duck, GUZ!
KBOlsen is offline  
post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 07:14 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,495
 
Re: Another trailer thread..

Quote:
Originally posted by GroverSV650S
Okay folks..

Going to Master Hitch tomorrow to get a trailer hitch put on. Now, how much does a trailer weigh?

My '97 GTP should be able to pull a trailer and two bikes pretty easily. Hell, Cherrypicker's little Toyota can do that, and my car's got 60 ponies on it.

I can get a hitch rated at 2000 lbs, but is that enough? I figure 900 lbs for 2 bikes.

Or should I just get a higher rated hitch?

Chris
check the owners manual at you tow rating. Toyota is very liberal with towing ratings. Probably because they have fairly short gearing and are very light to begin with. I'm rated for 1500lbs. My load was 1100. Keep in mind though.... i would not have towed that load with an automatic tranny.... it would have beat it up pretty bad. With a manual you can typically get away with a little more abuse.

I would expect you car is good for 2000lbs....but the heavier tonque qeight might cause problems. For example my corolla probably tows better than Doc's Accord even though it gives up 10hp and 400cc's becase it's lighter, newer, and actaully makes better low end and midrange. Another example.... My parents had a 4 cylinder 2.2 liter Toyota Camry sedan that could out tow a 3.8L V6 taurs wagon because the tranny, chassis and suspension were so poorly matched on the Ford. The exhaust literally dragged on the ground.

DId I over analyze this enough.????
cherrypicker is offline  
post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 11:24 PM
Man with Big Hose
 
Pugsly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hoffman Estates
Posts: 1,432
Location: Hoffman Estates
Sportbike: '01 Track only GSXR 600. No more street riding :(
Years Riding: Pick a number between 1 and 10? Opps now 1 and 11
How you found us: Champ91 in 2002
 
Send a message via AIM to Pugsly Send a message via MSN to Pugsly
I have a GP gt and if i remeber right it's only rated at 1000 lbs!!!! which a class 1 is more than enough. I doubt it's rated over 2000 anyway.

Bigger is better but on any car with a 6, i would stay away from the bigger just because you'll never come close to the tow capacity of the hitch and you'll just be wasting money.

that's just my opinion.

Open trailer with 2 bikes and gear and stuff?

400 ish for the trailer 600 ish for each bike (being generous) and 200 foe gear equals 1800 lbs max. class one is all ya need.

That Boy Just Ain't Right
CCS #414
PARTS411.COM
Lockhart Phillips USA

NESBA #414 Advanced
2001 GSXR 600
Pugsly is offline  
post #12 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 11:26 PM
Man with Big Hose
 
Pugsly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hoffman Estates
Posts: 1,432
Location: Hoffman Estates
Sportbike: '01 Track only GSXR 600. No more street riding :(
Years Riding: Pick a number between 1 and 10? Opps now 1 and 11
How you found us: Champ91 in 2002
 
Send a message via AIM to Pugsly Send a message via MSN to Pugsly
the problem your going to run into with towing with a car that wasn't designed to tow with is 1 your gonna go through a set of brakes in now time and 2 your tranny gonna take a betting. GM recommends trans fluid changes at 15000 instead of the 30000 for towing.

That Boy Just Ain't Right
CCS #414
PARTS411.COM
Lockhart Phillips USA

NESBA #414 Advanced
2001 GSXR 600
Pugsly is offline  
post #13 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2003, 11:51 PM
Lovin this Twin
 
Hooligan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Aurora IL
Posts: 1,980
Location: Aurora IL
Sportbike: 05 SV1000S, Wide Glide, DR350
Years Riding: 1/2 hour then it rained
How you found us: member
           
Send a message via AIM to Hooligan Send a message via Yahoo to Hooligan
Grover get a hidden class 1 made by Reese its really good stuff and you'll hardly know its on your car when your not using it.

I totally agree a class 1 will be more then enough to haul your bike and trailor...............Unless of course your getting an enclosed trailor then Id go to a 2

This is gonna hurt!
Hooligan is offline  
post #14 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 05:08 AM
CHeYeNNe
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Make sure to get a Trans Cooler for your car as the trans are known at times to go on the Grand Prixs. The trans cooler is only like 30-50 I believe.


I wouldn't tow an enclosed with a Grand Prix ,but that's my opinion. Talk about sagging ass


Cheyenne
post #15 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 06:48 AM
Your friendly Crazy Canuk
 
RickC1957's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Barrington, Illinois
Posts: 12,731
Location: Barrington, Illinois
Sportbike: Ducati ST3 2005 Gloss Black, Monster 620, 2007 Sport Classic 1000
Years Riding: Crashing sucessfully since 1969
How you found us: Thru favorednation (ron)
           
Send a message via AIM to RickC1957 Send a message via Yahoo to RickC1957
Quote:
Originally posted by KBOlsen
Bigger is always better.
Why do women always say that









Sometimes goodbye is your second chance.
RickC1957 is offline  
post #16 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 11:21 AM Thread Starter
BEER!
 
Grover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Posts: 5,970
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Sportbike: '01 SV650S (Pokey!) '02 Honda CR125 (Blockhead)
Years Riding: 5
How you found us: SBN
           
Send a message via AIM to Grover
Thanks for all the opinions. I went with the 2000lb hitch. It's not hidden, but damn near, only the receiver thing is visible from the rear.

Kim, the ball John gave me wouldn't work. The one they sold with it is radically different. It put the trailer much higher than the one John gave me.

I checked the manual for the information about the towing capacity. Manual says to tow a trailer that's less than 1000 lbs (unloaded) and my car is supposed to have under 1900 lbs weight on each axle. Assuming the trailer weight gets put on the rear axle, I decided not to get a bigger hitch. Between the trailer, bikes, and assorted stuff necessary for a track day, the weight on the axle is close to that.

If I need to tow anything more than that, I'm renting a truck.
Chris

NESBA/CCS #142
AIM: GroverSV650S
Dirtbikes are not submarines
Grover is offline  
post #17 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 11:31 AM
Evil Moderatrix
 
KBOlsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Posts: 8,030
Location: Think corn and pigs. Lots and lots of corn and pigs.
Sportbike: A Big Blue One, a threesome of Sexy Red Ones - and a Happy Yellow One!
Years Riding: Quarter century.
How you found us: I was looking for Jimmy Choo's in my shoe closet.
           
Send a message via AIM to KBOlsen
Is the ball itself a different size?

Kim
CCS AM #815 - the cute, fuzzy, yellow, spoiled-rotten half of Team Duc Tape!
I break stuff
Duck, duck, duck, GUZ!
KBOlsen is offline  
post #18 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 12:37 PM Thread Starter
BEER!
 
Grover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Posts: 5,970
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Sportbike: '01 SV650S (Pokey!) '02 Honda CR125 (Blockhead)
Years Riding: 5
How you found us: SBN
           
Send a message via AIM to Grover
Quote:
Originally posted by KBOlsen
Is the ball itself a different size?
No, I went with the 2 inch ball, but everything else is different. It places the ball much higher than John's part did.

NESBA/CCS #142
AIM: GroverSV650S
Dirtbikes are not submarines
Grover is offline  
post #19 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 01:03 PM
Man with Big Hose
 
Pugsly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hoffman Estates
Posts: 1,432
Location: Hoffman Estates
Sportbike: '01 Track only GSXR 600. No more street riding :(
Years Riding: Pick a number between 1 and 10? Opps now 1 and 11
How you found us: Champ91 in 2002
 
Send a message via AIM to Pugsly Send a message via MSN to Pugsly
did you go to master hitch?

If you did they should have included the receiver piece with the correct rise (i assume you need a riser if the mount is below the bumper).

i don't think you'll have any problems carring what nyou need to a track day. towing 1 or 2 times a month won't be nearly as harsh as if you towed the thing around everyday.

That Boy Just Ain't Right
CCS #414
PARTS411.COM
Lockhart Phillips USA

NESBA #414 Advanced
2001 GSXR 600
Pugsly is offline  
post #20 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 04:03 PM
Man with Big Hose
 
Pugsly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hoffman Estates
Posts: 1,432
Location: Hoffman Estates
Sportbike: '01 Track only GSXR 600. No more street riding :(
Years Riding: Pick a number between 1 and 10? Opps now 1 and 11
How you found us: Champ91 in 2002
 
Send a message via AIM to Pugsly Send a message via MSN to Pugsly
Chris.

.i got a class 1 receiver that i had on my grand am GT. if the mount was the same(where the tube is below the bumper and airdam) than it should work. If you want it, it's yours. It's got a 4, or, 5 or 6 in rise(can't remeber can measure though it your intrereseted).

Keith

That Boy Just Ain't Right
CCS #414
PARTS411.COM
Lockhart Phillips USA

NESBA #414 Advanced
2001 GSXR 600
Pugsly is offline  
post #21 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
BEER!
 
Grover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Posts: 5,970
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Sportbike: '01 SV650S (Pokey!) '02 Honda CR125 (Blockhead)
Years Riding: 5
How you found us: SBN
           
Send a message via AIM to Grover
Keith, it came with a receiver. I'm not sure how high it goes up, but it's pretty high. I'd say a couple inches at least.

Yeah, I went with master hitch. Under $200 installed.

Chris

NESBA/CCS #142
AIM: GroverSV650S
Dirtbikes are not submarines
Grover is offline  
post #22 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-15-2003, 06:49 PM
Man with Big Hose
 
Pugsly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hoffman Estates
Posts: 1,432
Location: Hoffman Estates
Sportbike: '01 Track only GSXR 600. No more street riding :(
Years Riding: Pick a number between 1 and 10? Opps now 1 and 11
How you found us: Champ91 in 2002
 
Send a message via AIM to Pugsly Send a message via MSN to Pugsly
that's were this one was from too. so i sure your pretty well set. They did a top notch job on my grand am Gt a few years ago. (man i miss that car )

That Boy Just Ain't Right
CCS #414
PARTS411.COM
Lockhart Phillips USA

NESBA #414 Advanced
2001 GSXR 600
Pugsly is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Chicagoland Sportbikes forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome