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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old 04-28-2003, 03:03 PM Thread Starter
 
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Nervous...

I am new to owning a bike in Chicagoland and I have to say I am nervous almost every time I take it out for a spin because of the cagers around here. This region is a far cry from the suburban NE Ohio (I moved here in 2000), where 5 minutes in any direction will put you in the middle of nowhere. Most roads were 2 lanes, you couldn't do U-turns, and the biggest city we had was Cleveland (all jokes aside!).

So now I fret over whether or not to take my bike out when I get home from work at 5pm because of Roosevelt Rd and Ogden and 355 at 6pm on a week night. It's frustrating. There is a ton more traffic here. Believe it or not, I wait until 11pm or midnight often before I go out just so I can have the roads to myself.

So, do I just have to get over myself? I took it out twice over the weekend for about 50 miles in the morning. On Butterfield and Roosevelt (Lombard area) my head was on a damn swivel the whole ride. I could not relax because of what the cages were doing around me. I keep telling myself to ride it everyday to get over being nervous, but the same anxiousness creeps back into me the next day.

Mind you, it's only when I ride the bike that I get nervous. I'll go anywhere in my Wrangler.
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Give it time. your reflexes are better than you realize. By the time some one cuts you off you are already accelerating away/braking and raising your middle finger.

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dunno man, maybe it's just a shock to see so many more cars than usual. I'll bet you think the drivers here are a lot more dumber than over there? but, i'd say it's something to get over, if i was nervous while riding, my confidence would drop so much, i'll prolly be askin for an accident, *knock on wood
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Your nervousness is well founded. Peoples driving habits in and around Chicago is characterized by a high degree of self-importance and arrogance.

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It does suck. Honestly I didn't ride much when I lived in the city. Get comfortable and just be careful bro

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I agree in part. Sometimes, I'll get home from work and want to ride but rush hour is still in full bloom. Why even fight it just to sit in traffic?

So I'll relax for an hour, eat dinner, work out or something else and then hit the streets after 6:30pm and stay out till 9 or so.

As far as traffic is concerned, yes its nuts. Do I feel like sitting in it while the bike overheats? No.

Take the train to work and save the bike for free time. Your sanity will thank you later.

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On Saturday I was at the Highland/Butterfield 'Series of Lights' that eventually take you to I88, etc., right near the Circuit City. I was the lead vehicle at the light. I thought for sure when the light changed green I would ram someone from another intersection who thought they could "make it". It felt like I rode through a mine field. I feel stupid!!

I appreciate all the reassuring posts you guys are giving me. Glad to read some of you feel the same as I do about the cars, and about relaxing at home before going out.

I feel MUCH more confident when there is another rider familiar with the region riding with me, that's one thing that helps me.

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A friend's brother died while riding in the city. I don't know if I would ride if I lived there. Sorry to put a damper on the mood.
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I appreciate all the reassuring posts you guys are giving me. Glad to read some of you feel the same as I do about the cars, and about relaxing at home before going out.
I used to feel the same way. I avoid the city unless it's late at night or early in the morning...even where I live traffic sucks til 630-7. I used to worry all the time about someone hitting me or cutting me off and I won't be able to brake fast enough. Eventually it just becomes routine to check around you for morons and you relax more (never completely though...there's always that little voice in your head At least in mine there is ).
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I'm just gonna change my name to NyteRydah because that's the only time I'll ever take it out!
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I'm just gonna change my name to NyteRydah because that's the only time I'll ever take it out!
nuts to that. dont let cages dictate when you can ride. i'll roll with you anytime of day.

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I'm just gonna change my name to NyteRydah because that's the only time I'll ever take it out!
Even worse...that's when the drunks are out and they can't see ya.

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I find peoples responses to riding in the city interesting. I live in the city and quite frankly I'm more comfortable in traffic in the city than in traffic in the 'burbs. Why you ask? I feel that in general people in the city know that it's going to take forever to go somewhere and they accept it. In the suburbs it seems like everybody is in a hurry and has a wackout sense of entitlement, also you can drive faster in the 'burbs...so people are driving well......faster. If you get out there where there is no traffic or at times of low traffic then it's another story entirely. However, sitting in traffic anywhere sucks period.

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Just think of it as a challenge. Ever played Frogger.
Excellent. Sometimes Frogger, sometimes Asteroids. I can even hear the Jaws-like, "DUN dun DUN dun" video game music when I start riding.
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Really, its not that big of a deal. If you ride in (especially) Chicago, you should always ride defensively.

I always take an extra second to look both ways before taking off from a stoplight because I always 'expect' someone to be running the red.

I also always am very careful when riding down residential streets because I expect someone to jut out of an alley or a parallel parking spot.

I have dropped the bike 2 times already at low speeds in a last ditch effort to avoid hitting someone who I couldn't see until it was almost too late. No damages but that's because I was expecting something to potentially happen and was going slow enough to abort my next move which would have been trouble.

Drive defensively! If you are not then you better learn fast because these Chicago drivers will cut you off and then give you the finger like its your fault.

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Yeah, a little more saddle time will help train your eye to read Chicago style vehicular body language.

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Sticky,

I agree totally. I actually think that city drivers are a bit more predictable because like you say, everyone is going slower and expects things to go slower.

Also, I think that city drivers are, by necessity, more aware of what is going on around them because there is so much going on and they know that if they take their eyes off the road for 1 second they might end up blowing a light or any number of signage. Not to mention the ever-present pedestrian who is standing in the middle of the lane trying to see how far off the next bus is.

Forget it, the city is more dangerous but it prompts drivers in general to be more cautious. Every time I nearly got in an accident in the burbs it woulda been really bad because I was moving faster and the damn people just pull out right in front of you.

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thx chibeemer. Glad to hear I'm not alone. I had to do a "controlled drop" a week ago because the EXACT same thing you said. Only a few nicks though. Discouraging more than anything.
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I find in the city there is a lot less traffic on the sidewalks.

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Yeah man, you'll get used to it by mid to late summer. I feel safer on my bike than in my car. I can stop faster, accelerate faster, have more peripheral vision, hear more, manuver out of the way easier, and i notice that I am much more aware while on the bike. You tend to slack when your behind the wheel with the stereo blaring and on the phone. Plus it's WAY easier to get around and park on the bike downtown.

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I find in the city there is a lot less traffic on the sidewalks.
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Just remember to be patient, but firm. Ride with conviction and don't be tentative. After a while, you'll get used to it. Always think three car lengths ahead and expect the unexpected. Watch the other drivers' eyes and wheels.

I grew up in the city, lived and rode there up until almost three years ago. I always rode with the attitude that I was invisible and that nobody else cared. Always did as much as I could to "maximize" my appearance in traffic (learned how to take up the most space possible and always stand my ground). There's nothing quite as challenging as riding your motorcycle in the Loop at 5 p.m. but I really enjoyed the ride to work.

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I agree totally. I actually think that city drivers are a bit more predictable because like you say, everyone is going slower and expects things to go slower.

Also, I think that city drivers are, by necessity, more aware of what is going on around them because there is so much going on and they know that if they take their eyes off the road for 1 second they might end up blowing a light or any number of signage. Not to mention the ever-present pedestrian who is standing in the middle of the lane trying to see how far off the next bus is.

Forget it, the city is more dangerous but it prompts drivers in general to be more cautious. Every time I nearly got in an accident in the burbs it woulda been really bad because I was moving faster and the damn people just pull out right in front of you.
Wow do I disagree with you guys there. Only cuz people in the city usually get irrate about traffic and are generally in more of a hurry and the simple fact that the shear numbers of drivers gives you more of a chance of a nieve, ignorant, or spaced-out driver being in your general viscinity.

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Wow do I disagree with you guys there. Only cuz people in the city usually get irrate about traffic and are generally in more of a hurry and the simple fact that the shear numbers of drivers gives you more of a chance of a nieve, ignorant, or spaced-out driver being in your general viscinity.
That's what I mean. There's so many cagers all bunched up together ALL THE TIME. Just early morning or late night rides down there I'm fine with and even then I want as many other riders along.

Out west past (example: Hoffman Estates) there are less cars, less intersections, less lights, less people, less 'bunches' of people, less buildings to block out intersections til the last minute etc....etc.

*shrug* I'm not claustrophobic, but I swear the city gives me that feeling when I ride down there usually.
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I agree....










about the sidewalks

I don't know, sometimes I finish a ride and feel like everybody is trying to kill me. Those days I feel like scrapping street riding altogether, no easy answers I suppose. It is certainly inherently dangerous to drive amongst things that have an exponentially higher inertia, like SUVs; and it doesn't help when those are being piloted by people not driving so much as moving about with a phone.

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Just remember to be patient, but firm. Ride with conviction and don't be tentative. After a while, you'll get used to it. Always think three car lengths ahead and expect the unexpected. Watch the other drivers' eyes and wheels.

I grew up in the city, lived and rode there up until almost three years ago. I always rode with the attitude that I was invisible and that nobody else cared. Always did as much as I could to "maximize" my appearance in traffic (learned how to take up the most space possible and always stand my ground). There's nothing quite as challenging as riding your motorcycle in the Loop at 5 p.m. but I really enjoyed the ride to work.
3 car lengths? Try to get that if you can, but 4 cars will try and fit in those 3 car lengths. If you give a cager half a car length, they'll try and take it. Which sucks when they are in their Expedition talking on their cell phone while shaving and reading the paper.

Last time I rode to Bike night (month ago??) I almost got sideswiped by a car. Honked, cursed, flipped the bird. I didn't have the common sense to inflict damage on the car (Sidi boots are nice and hard..good kick will put a hole in a bumper). Same night Labdog had the same happen to him.

Burbs have worse drivers. City has worse road surfaces. I've ridden a motorcycle down to the city a couple of times (the Maxim). Not sure if I'll do that again!

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I live in the city (near Elmwood Park border), so I'm used to city riding. Like Sticky and chibeemer said, traffic is slower. In addition, the stoplights are more predictably spaced (at least in the bungalow belt areas) than in the burbs.

On the negative side, the streets have fewer lanes so you have the danger of an idiot pulling out from the parking lane or from a side street or opening a car door without checking for traffic.

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