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I have this really weird car issue with my 2000 Honda Accord. It's been like this for awhile now.

After a really long ride (say a 1 hour commute from work to home), I park my car at home for a few minutes to pick up something and when I start it again it starts up but the RPMs flicker and then it dies. The only way to get it going is to start the car and while in park rev the engine to 3-4k rpms and drop it to drive quickly and hit the gas. If im not quick enough the engine dies... I have to make sure i'm driving for a good minute or two for it to stay idle at a little under 1k and not die at the stop sign. Initially, the car putts around as well.. like when I gas it .. it sounds funny and revs funny until I've been driving for a few minutes.

Any ideas what maybe causing this? It ONLY happens when the engine is warmed up and/or riding for more than 45 minutes. I never have problems starting it cold.

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post #2 of 45 (permalink) Old 11-14-2007, 02:13 PM
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pcv (Valve?)

Should be about $5 at napa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCV_valve

maybe.....

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could be a hot soak problem (fuel in the fuel rail boils when the car isn't running and in a sense is 'vapor lock')

or you have a idle air speed motor that is sticking.

i would have to drive it to give you a better guess.

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Mine does it too (VR4).. From what I understand it's a common problem that is heat related to restarting. I don't know the cause, but I believe some sensor or reading is way off throwing off the computer. After running a while, it clears up.

I'll follow that lead, Mopar.. thanks.

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Dynojet Power Commander will solve your problem, make sure it is tuned right and adjust the idle accordingly .






Seriously, I hope you can get it fixed, I know nothing of cars myself. Now my motto for cars is when they start to break down often, time to trade them in .

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Arch, let me know if you figure it out... It's a pain in the asshole.

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Arch, let me know if you figure it out... It's a pain in the asshole.
My 95 base model did it, my 99 vr4 does it. They did it even brand new. Not every time, but enough that I knew exactly what you were referring to

So, that leads me to believe it's not a usable part getting worn out but more heat related.. like a sensor is reading too high.. after running (and the coolant doing its job removing the heat like it should) it clears right up...

After reading up on the hot/heat soak problems, it could also be the fuel line is routed too close to the exhaust, causing the fuel in there to vaporaize... and running will draw cooler fuel from the tank towards the engine.. I dunno.. need to look into this some more..

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could be a hot soak problem (fuel in the fuel rail boils when the car isn't running and in a sense is 'vapor lock')
Vapor lock can be caused by a bad fuel pressure regulator or check valve. What happens is that the pressure in the fuel line drops after you shut the engine (and fuel pump) off. This causes the gas to boil (because pressurizing a liquid raising the boiling temp). Gas in vapor form does not go through the injectors very well. If you wait until the engine cools, the vapor should turn back to liquid and you won't have a problem. You need to check for residual fuel pressure. The fuel pressure regulator and check valve both maintain fuel pressure in the lines after the fuel pump has shut off. You can hook up a fuel gauge and check to see if you still have residual pressure. Another possible problem is that the fuel pump relay is overheating which is a common problem in some Hondas. I believe you can resolder some stuff on the relay and it will fix the problem.

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Fuck, all i know is it sounds expensive! Son of a bitch!

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Didn't you say you were going to buy a BMW M3 anyway? Go on with your bad self.

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Didn't you say you were going to buy a BMW M3 anyway? Go on with your bad self.
Not for awhile mang... maybe in a year or two

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I see you in a used Camry in 2 years.

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Let me guess.. your used camry??

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Let me guess.. your used camry??
You wish. I am never selling you my Camry. TRD supercharger, Bilsten struts, Eibach springs. It's a sleeper in disguise.

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Ok, you and Tony need to remember that Ducati doesn't make cars and Apple doesn't make a server OS.

OSX Server?

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Not that I'm advocating crApple, but...
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I go through a lot of bikes but I keep my cars for a long time. I plan on driving my 2000 Camry until my niece is old enough to drive. She is 6 now, so when she turns 16, this will be her first car. I retired my 1991 Camry in 2001. Sent her to live in ABQ, NM where the winters are not so brutal. She is still rocking to this day.

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LoL - I think im shit outta luck.. I'll check my tire pressure tonight. That might solve it.

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