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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-24-2007, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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My brother owns an apartment building in Villa PArk and one of his old tenants left a ragged out 70something Honda there. He doesn't have contact with his previous tenant and they failed to pick it up as they said they would. What would be his options? I'm sure he would want to just get it off his hands/property, but what should he do legally? If abandoned, then what to do? I'm sure it would make a decent toy for someone.
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Do a google search for this, there are specific laws concerning left property in situations like this.

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He probably needs to call the towing service, if he has one, and they'll take it from there. If he hasn't posted the property, then he should call the Villa Park police for help; they may be able to get it towed, but it's not clear from the statute whether they're allowed to do that.

As far as the possibility of it making a decent toy for someone: if it's an antique vehicle, the tow company can sell it to someone who wants to restore it (ref. 625 ILCS 5/4-209(c)).

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mechanic's lien might also be possible.
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Mark it abandoned. Sell it with bill of sale.

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I new that would get exploited. I am looking for an old 70's type bike for my wife.
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Mark it abandoned. Sell it with bill of sale.

GKotlin bought two bikes that way today.
Aren't they only good for parts/trackbikes then? If it has a title on record with the state, you can't just apply for a new title, can you?

Also, what did he buy?

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Aren't they only good for parts/trackbikes then? If it has a title on record with the state, you can't just apply for a new title, can you?
Nope, not in Illinois. They want a surrender title, with a properly executed transfer on it. Without that, strictly speaking, you don't own crap and can't get plates. Furthermore, if you happen to get the VIN run for whatever reason, you will probably have some explaining to do on the theme of why you are in possession of a vehicle that you don't legally own.

This assumes that the bikes are well and truly abandoned. Obviously it gets a lot worse if the legal owner decides to file a theft report.

There are, in fact, ways to get a title issued without a transfer, but a bill of sale isn't it.

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You have to send a registered letter to the owner telling them it's abandoned on your property and they have so many days to pick it up. If there is a lien on it, you'd have to send one to the bank as well I'd assume. Then you have to put an ad in the public local paper stating that said property owned by said person is abandoned and needs to be picked up in so many days. After the letters have been delivered and the ad run, I believe it's yours. But a lawyer or police officer may be able to confirm it. Thats the process I had to go through. We'll see if I can actually get the title for it now.

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That sounds like the process for claiming other abandoned property, but I'm pretty sure titled vehicles are different. How did you learn about this process?

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I picked up a winter project this way last week.

But it was in TN. I'm not sure what the laws here are.

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Do a google search for this, there are specific laws concerning left property in situations like this.
I agree. I knew a guy who bought a boat that was abandoned at a storage place. Was able to get papers and everything!

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I picked up a winter project this way last week.

But it was in TN. I'm not sure what the laws here are.
Congratulations!

Tennessee is a little more liberal about their abandoned vehicles, and they allow any vehicle that can be sold, to be sold. Illinois doesn't really seem to allow that.

This is the dirt bike you posted about over in the Tech forum? Because a dirt bike, being an off-road vehicle, is probably going to get handled a little differently, especially if you're not required to have a title (which Tennessee didn't require until June 1983).

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I agree. I knew a guy who bought a boat that was abandoned at a storage place. Was able to get papers and everything!
Storage places are different. Storage places have a right to sell off the stuff stored in them when the storage rent is overdue, under certain conditions. Check the legals sometime--you'll see notices along those lines come up from time to time. I'm not sure what the rules are about storage places selling vehicles, but it may be legit.

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