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the new pitbull puppy "i need advise from experienced PIT BULL owners"

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH boy i forgot what it is to do it all over again after 8 years with my stone boy.

we named per Pebbles, and sure she is cute but she is a terror. i have only slept from 5am till 8am.
mainly from reading last night all of its history and its needed up rising.

i have no problem with nothing as i have raised a few dogs to be loving sweet animals, all my dogs have been of large breeds with the ability to attack and maybe kill also. its just in there up brining and also me knowing my dog to sense how they feel or when they had enough of something.

my biggest issue is after reading for hours the 1 thing i must understand it is saying i can NEVER not put it past her to possible fight and injur its other dog mates while being left alone.

the last thing i want EVER is for her to attack my Stone "he is like my son" i would for sure have her put down. i do understand "after reading its nature and its abilities and also what it might be able to do.

and thats my biggest issue right now. by herself she is a normal puppy good and bad. with stone around all she wants to do is chase him and jump on him.

good thing is stone is good behaved and tolerates her to an extent. "he is very good with small dogs" but i am wondering is this just puppy play and let it be or stop it so she doesn't feel the need to fight with other dog traits that she has genetic wise?

all i know is she is a pitbull, and that her mom was good with kids and other dogs.

i love large dogs, i am a FIRM alpha male, and i know how to raise a dog with a balance of love and a firm tone and hand if needed. thats not the issue.

the issue is a 3 month old dog that in its nature when it hits puberty to show wither or not it will be dog aggressive and by then a 10 year old sweet weaker less will to fight dog. the last thing i want is the remaining years of my stone to be hindered by a tougher dog wanting to kick his ass daily

hope you guys get what i am trying to say.

so far i love her.

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Natural its a puppy thats how they all play

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If it were me I would send her away to a boot camp for training. yor already 2 months behind on training, you got some catching up to do. it will cost you a grand, but over their life span it's worth it.




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I don't know much about pit bulls, but sounds like normal puppy play. Keep that dog interacting with as many dogs as possible with it's still a puppy and it will help.

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Natural its a puppy thats how they all play
i agree it's just puppy play. read more at http://www.badrap.org/rescue/
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The younger dog will pull and tug on the older dog wanting to play. Pretty normal.

The only thing you need to worry about right now is the older dog snapping and going at the puppy to put the pup in it's place.

Dog's fight, that's what they do sometimes. Not much you can do to prevent it from ever happening, but when it does happen, you will know you need to keep them separate. Really, there is no way to tell.

I've seen a Labrador Retriever attack a Pug. I've also seen a pug attack a German Shepherd. Breed is really irrelevant, though Pits have a history of it and have a stereotype.
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hahah tony, i have done all my training with all my dogs but ive never had a pitbull.


here is some pictures of her.

she already claimed a couch she likes "yes i let my dogs lay or sleep on the love seat "which is stones" and she likes this couch in the other living room" so its hers now.



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The younger dog will pull and tug on the older dog wanting to play. Pretty normal.

The only thing you need to worry about right now is the older dog snapping and going at the puppy to put the pup in it's place.

Dog's fight, that's what they do sometimes. Not much you can do to prevent it from ever happening, but when it does happen, you will know you need to keep them separate. Really, there is no way to tell.

I've seen a Labrador Retriever attack a Pug. I've also seen a pug attack a German Shepherd. Breed is really irrelevant, though Pits have a history of it and have a stereotype.

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All I'll say is make sure the dog knows *YOU* are alpha and they are beta, at all times. The rest of the traits are easier to deal with when that is firmly established.

You've got your hands full, that's for sure.. but welcome back to puppyhood

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also my fav pitbull site

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another good one www.pitbullforum.com if you can't handle her let me know!
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As far as the puppy play, they're gonna do that. The pup may even do it to exhaustion. Stone will set the rules within the next week. Soon Pebbles will know when it's ok to play.
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Skyy was raised along with another pitbull when my wife was working at the clinic. We took them to puppy school together and socialized them together. We did that because it was a rescue and wanted to be sure there was no aggression in the pitbull. We did this by socializing the pup with both people and other dogs. We also made sure the pup knew that being mouthy at all was not acceptable. Whenever it got snippy we had to hold it's mouth shut until the dog submitted. This took a while sometimes and even made us late for work because dogs sometimes will struggle for a while before they submitt. Other advice.....

1. frequently roll the pup over and pin it to the ground, rolling it back in forth. This lets the pup know you are the boss.

2. Don't get it pig ears or raw hides to chew on and try your best to not let it get a hold of live animals. The slightest tast of flesh can bring out aggressive instincts in these dogs.

3. When you play with a rope with the pup, never let it win. Meaning, always let the pup release the rope, don't let it beat you. Again, lets the pup know who is boss.

4. Bring it around kids so they know how to act around smaller people. This is something I didn't do enough of with my dogs and they don't realize they are alot stronger than kids.

5. You can let your dogs wrestle until you see aggression, like hair standing on their next. Then it's time to stop them and let them know it's not ok

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Congrats Ken, I'd be up for some "Dog Socializing" if needed with my Dobie.

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Skyy was raised along with another pitbull when my wife was working at the clinic. We took them to puppy school together and socialized them together. We did that because it was a rescue and wanted to be sure there was no aggression in the pitbull. We did this by socializing the pup with both people and other dogs. We also made sure the pup knew that being mouthy at all was not acceptable. Whenever it got snippy we had to hold it's mouth shut until the dog submitted. This took a while sometimes and even made us late for work because dogs sometimes will struggle for a while before they submitt. Other advice.....

1. frequently roll the pup over and pin it to the ground, rolling it back in forth. This lets the pup know you are the boss.

2. Don't get it pig ears or raw hides to chew on and try your best to not let it get a hold of live animals. The slightest tast of flesh can bring out aggressive instincts in these dogs.

3. When you play with a rope with the pup, never let it win. Meaning, always let the pup release the rope, don't let it beat you. Again, lets the pup know who is boss.

4. Bring it around kids so they know how to act around smaller people. This is something I didn't do enough of with my dogs and they don't realize they are alot stronger than kids.

5. You can let your dogs wrestle until you see aggression, like hair standing on their next. Then it's time to stop them and let them know it's not ok

thanks brian, i know all this though, but thanks for the reminder.



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i dont know why that dog reminds me of little rascals but can i start calling you "spanky" ?

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Ken, the best thing you can do for a pit is to crate train it. Then when you leave the house make sure the pup is in its crate to separate the two dogs. This will keep any unsupervised play out of the scenario. This will also save you from losing any remote controls, dvd's or anything that is not tied down!
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Pebble brothers are like that too. They like to play a lot. Thanks for picking it up last night.
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Ken, the best thing you can do for a pit is to crate train it. Then when you leave the house make sure the pup is in its crate to separate the two dogs. This will keep any unsupervised play out of the scenario. This will also save you from losing any remote controls, dvd's or anything that is not tied down!
I agree with this

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thanks brian, i know all this though, but thanks for the reminder.
That's great advice. You probably know this already as well, but here are few other things to do to teach it to submit (I've raised a Rottweiler, they also can be damn stubborn and grow into a huge walking problem if they are not raised correctly):

- Teach her to give up food when ordered. Give her a bone and take it away, every time or every other time she chews a bone.

- If a dog like that decided to chew something and she isn't taught to open her mouth on command, you'll need a crowbar or will have to administer serious ass kicking which sucks a lot - this is the last resort for the worst behavior. Mine liked to chew socks and the bitch just wouldn't open her mouth after getting ahold of especially smelly one . I worked out the following method: put a muzzle on her to prevent the chewing, order to sit and don't let leave. Sitting straight is a very uncomfortable position and after few minutes she will get it and spit it out the moment you remove the muzzle. I had to do it several times and she finally got it - it's easier to spit it out immediately than go through the procedure.

- If a dog does something REAL bad like attacking another animal or a human, there's a very effective method to administer punishment: grab her by skin on the back of the neck raise an inch from the floor and shake slightly once or twice. This is something that dogs, cats and other animals do when disciplining the cubs. It's not very painful (especially for dogs with a lot of loose skin around the neck, like rotts, mastiffs and pits), but there's a big shock from losing the firm ground and being completely helpless. I wouldn't recommend this method for every dog, though, because, once again, it's a big shock. It should only be used on dogs with strong psyche and only when they do something really bad. The plus side is that it's way less damaging then actual corporal punishment. I've only used it twice, when the pup was between 4 and 8 months old, both times she seriously attacked me.

OK, my apologies for giving out an unsolicited advise, sometimes I just can't shut up.

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She is super cute! Pebbles is such a great name for her!

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She's sooooo cute and I LOVE the name!!! Ken, you will be just fine.
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Ken, the best thing you can do for a pit is to crate train it. Then when you leave the house make sure the pup is in its crate to separate the two dogs. This will keep any unsupervised play out of the scenario. This will also save you from losing any remote controls, dvd's or anything that is not tied down!
ive always done that, thanks.

also too i have learned more since reading" i needed to educate myself more on the breed, all dogs have this tendency even stone did. training, positive reenforcement. its not that i dont know how to train or handle a dog properly.

its i am just wanting to learn as much about them as i can and the last hours of reading is helping me learn more about them.

the more info from pitbull owners the better. thanks.



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