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I'm about to fucking lose my mind. In the past 3 years, I've gone through 3 different throttle cables on my 1999 Ford Taurus SE 24v DOHC. Yes, this is the car I rigged to run with a pen cap when the throttle body broke the second time.

Well, it snapped again last night, I coasted on into the parking lot at Fox Valley Mall and had the car towed to the place that replaced the throttle cable last time (Firestone in Wheaton on Butterfield). They call me this morning to tell me that Ford has stopped making the part and that they cannot source one for me. This is a car that's 8 years old, has 95k miles on it, the body is in perfect shape, runs great but now is worthless because ford stopped making a part?!! What the holy fuck is that all about?!

Ford sold something like 140,000 Taurus with the 24v engine in 1999 and I cannot get a throttle cable?! How many beat up pieces of shite are on the road today, piles of garbage that should have been put to rest years ago, why can those fuckers get parts that are still made?

This reallllllly pisses me off, short of rigging up a cable out of 200lbs fishing line, does anyone have any suggestions. So help me God, anyone who says "You shouldn't have bought a Ford" type comments will make my shit list and get neg rep, I'M IN NO MOOD!

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I say call the dealer your self. I hardly trust a tire installation place to do real work.

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design one that actually works, and market it, sounds like theres 139,999 other guys that need one




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I say call the dealer your self. I hardly trust a tire installation place to do real work.
Good call, but I did this immediately. I trust Firestone about as far as I can throw them. Both AutoZone, and Fair Oaks Ford say the same thing about the part, discontinued, cannot be ordered. What really kills/confuses me, my father has a 2004 Taurus with the DOHC and he too cannot get a throttle cable for his car (different part number, but it's a 3 year old car!). WTF Ford?!

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+1 on calling the stealer. No way in hell that part is discontinued when it's '99.

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+1 on calling the stealer. No way in hell that part is discontinued when it's '99.
My thoughts exactly, nothing about that makes sense to me. There's just too many of them on the road.

The 1996 used the same cable and they made 486,000 of them that year...

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Are you giving them the part number or having them look it up? It may be that a specific part number is discontinued but there is a replacement that superceeds the original.

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I have ridden in your car, and it is very nice. Sucks that did that. Ford is having some serious money problems, and there are huge cutbacks at their plant in Ford Heights. I say pen cap it, trade it in for that s2000 you have wanted for years. I will steal my moms sky turbo, and we can race em.

On a side note, looks like I am picking up that bike you sent me the link to. We will have to all go out, Mandy's classic, my bomber, your cafe racer, Rudedog74's 68 Bonneville 650, and his friends 48ish bmw with a sidecar.
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+1. I bet the Tire place doesn't have the updated or superceded part number on their files otherwise Ebay or searching the Internet is all I can suggest.
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I have ridden in your car, and it is very nice. Sucks that did that. Ford is having some serious money problems, and there are huge cutbacks at their plant in Ford Heights. I say pen cap it, trade it in for that s2000 you have wanted for years. I will steal my moms sky turbo, and we can race em.

On a side note, looks like I am picking up that bike you sent me the link to. We will have to all go out, Mandy's classic, my bomber, your cafe racer, Rudedog74's 68 Bonneville 650, and his friends 48ish bmw with a sidecar.
Excellent, it looked like a really clean bike for the age in those pics. Bring along Geomoto and his Bonne and we'll have a regular Ton Up gang.

The Taurus is going as soon as I get some sort of regular cash flow, not because it's a bad car, it's run great for years, I just can't deal with stuff like this. I don't have a car anymore 6 days before Christmas... I'm going to be without a vehicle until Mid January at this rate.

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I managed to source a new one from a company in Southern Wisconsin, cost me $60 new shipped, should be here by tomorrow.

I cannot believe how badly Firestone in Wheaton screwed the pooch on this one. In order to avoid them fucking it up again, I'm having the car towed again, this time to Fair Oaks Ford in Naperville, gonna cost me another seventy bucks but hopefully Fair Oaks will know what they're doing.

My family and I have gone to Firestone since 1993, they've consistantly made mistakes but never to this degree. It has always been menial stuff like forgetting to put the cover on the throttle body, only putting on 4 (of 5) bolts on one of my wheels, mounting a tire backwards (unidirectional), etc. But this throttle cable now has cost me $600 and I am going to owe Fair Oaks another $250 before it's fixed.

For those who don't feel like reading all that:

Avoid Firestone on Butterfield Road in Wheaton, they really are incompetent.


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My family and I have gone to Firestone since 1993, they've consistantly made mistakes but never to this degree. It has always been menial stuff like forgetting to put the cover on the throttle body, only putting on 4 (of 5) bolts on one of my wheels, mounting a tire backwards (unidirectional), etc.
And WHY do you keep returning? I've had shit experiences with certain places too, but mounting a tire backwards? That's just flat out f'd up.

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This is the reason we kept on going there:


Proximity of Firestone to my parent's old house. When things would break or I needed an oil change or tires mounted we could walk back from Firestone in about 10 minutes. Convenience is the name of the game when you own an American car where the dealer won't pick it up even if it is under warranty.

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Looks like "convenience" really cost you in the long run.
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I'll bet they routed the cable incorrectly for it to break 3 times. Where is it breaking at? I've been a mechanic for 8 years and I think I've seen maybe 2 broken throttle cables and those were on beat up old turds. If it makes you feel any better, one of my customers just brought in a Taurus like yours for struts and it ended up being over $3000 because so many other things were rusted and broken. We had to replace a steering knuckle, sway bar links, rear springs, rear calipers, proportioning valve, a few brake lines and probably other things that I'm forgetting. This was all on a well maintained 97 Taurus and most of the parts replaced were due to severe rusting.
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Ok, so here's the deal as it stands now.

First time it broke was at the intersection of Route 59 and River road in Warrenville. I then had it towed to the Firestone where they told me that the cable was in fact not broken, but rather I had snapped a piece of what it mounts to. They told me that they welded it and that solved the problem, this cost me $60 for the weld and $95 for the tow. A week later the pedal fell to the floor again and this time I used the pen cap to get it back to the Firestone. At this point they fixed the problem by replacing the cable and charged me $150 for the repair and I avoided the tow cost by limping the car there on my own. It broke again two nights ago and I had it towed back to Firestone hoping to have them fix what they couldn't before (I was also hoping that they would cut me a deal given the fact that this simple fix has cost me an arm and a leg by this point). As I mentioned, they told me that they didn't know why the cable kept on breaking at which point I lost all faith in the fact that they knew what a car was, let alone how to fix one. I had the car towed to Fair Oaks Ford from Firestone after paying Firestone $175 for an oil change (full synth $50), a diagnostic fee (bullshit $21) and the tow (remainder minus tax). Fair Oaks replaced the cable for $200 and that was all.

Here's where it gets interesting, I pick up the car tonight and the oil is dark as night and Fair Oaks gave me the old cable, the cable has weld marks on the mounting bracket. What does this mean? Not only did Firestone not change my oil and still charged me $50 for it, but those FUCKERS never even bothered to change the cable... EVER! They tried to repair the old one both times and charged me for a new one. I've not only been hosed on the cost of the cable, but also the cost of the towing to get the car back to Firestone twice (and a third time to get the car out of their custody). To say I'm irate is a gross understatement. I'm thankful that my parents are attorneys as I already have a lawsuit typed up and going to Firestone corporate in the morning. I've stated before that I'm not a litigious person, but holy hell are these fuckers going to wish they hadn't crossed me.

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My dad use to take all his/our cars to the Firestone at Army Trail and County Farm for years. It was a privately owned Firestone and my dad gave them so much business that they treated him really well. Firestone then made the place go corporate and the quality of work went way down and the prices went way up. He hasn't been back since.

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Sue the hell out of them, buy a S2000 with the money. Ghost ride the Taurus into the canal, or give it to me.
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My dad use to take all his/our cars to the Firestone at Army Trail and County Farm for years. It was a privately owned Firestone and my dad gave them so much business that they treated him really well. Firestone then made the place go corporate and the quality of work went way down and the prices went way up. He hasn't been back since.

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Yup. The shop I work at is a small, privately owned shop that happens to have a Firestone sign out front. We are NOT a Firestone. I wouldn't take my car to one of the corporate Firestone stores either.
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I hope you get your money back and then some. It seemed odd that the cable would break that many times, I was suspecting bad fix by the shop or some other shortcut.
These type of places have alot of turnover in staff, you never see the same people.

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