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ZR1, all official and with pics. Supercharged 6.2 liter.
http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-aut...lly-334923.php

and also the CTS-V...this thing is awesome. Another SC 6.2.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-cts-v.html

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ZR1, all official and with pics. Supercharged 6.2 liter.

http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-aut...lly-334923.php

and also the CTS-V...this thing is awesome. Another SC 6.2.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-cts-v.html

On the outside looks ok, but inside looks like shit.
No offense, typical American engineering.

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always loved the CTS-V....props
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im diggin those 20''s and carbon brakes.. im not diggin the plexi on the hood..

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On the outside looks ok, but inside looks like shit.
No offense, typical American engineering.
You're probably the only person that would care what it looked like inside.
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Nice, but not worth the extra coin.

Buy your own SC and slap it on a ZO6 and you'll have just as much power if not more.

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Very nice. 0 to in the ditch/wrapped around a tree/in the river in 3.2 seconds

I would not rag on the interior too much myself. Yes it would be nice to dress it up, but every other manufacturer does this. A $60k M3 still has the same basic interior of a common $30k 328i. A near $200k Porsche GT2 still has the same basic interior layout as a $70k poor man 911 Carrera which is also very similar to the "secretary" Boxster. Maybe some Suede or alcantera to dress it up and really nice seats. How dare they mark up such a cheap car to such high prices? People still lust after those cars despite sharing components with the "pedestrian" models.

I think Chevy is smart for pouring all the money for that car into performance. No matter how much they would dress up the interior, people would still moan because "its still just a Chevy". Just like Volkswagen Phaeton. A nice car, but no one will ever get past the badge. Or a Yamaha R1. Fantastic bike... but its still no Ducati/MV/Aprilia. So instead, Chevy put their money where it cannot be disputed and where people will be willing to pay for it, performance for getting the best bench racing numbers Nissan did the same with the GTR. You can't out badge snob the established players for appeal, but you can beat them on the track or street.

Bascially, I think most will not pay big money for a nicer Chevy, but they obviously will pay for a ludicrously faster one My humble opinion of course.

And you will always be able to make the argument that you can buy X cheaper and add Y and be faster. Why spend on a Z06 with a blower. Just get a plain LS3 C6 and have even more money for modifications? Or better, buy a Miata and spend that money on track time to instead improve driving skill. Whats impressive to me is that the GTR, 911 Turbo, ZR1, etc are all stupid fast with a full warranty and no funny business. No finding the right tuner, poor everyday driveability, poor resale because others wonder where you did or did not cut corners with modifications. Just plunk your pile of money at the dealer and take off at warp speed

I wonder how much they will mark this one up? About 100k new, will Chevy dealers actually try to command $120k or more for this fastest Chevy ever? The car is certainly capable enough to command the price, but as is hinted, I think people gnerally have a hard time swallowing a 6 digit figure from the same dealer that sells $13k Cobalts. They seem to have no problem with this in Europe, selling a Mercedes A class next to an S class. But over here, we seem to like to be treated "special or separate" from the commoners when we splurge .
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corvettes are nice I just think they don't justify the price tag is all.
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Nice, but not worth the extra coin.

Buy your own SC and slap it on a ZO6 and you'll have just as much power if not more.
And then when it breaks you can buy another motor for $15k. The zr1 will be a collector car, only a retard would buy it to mod and race.
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ZR1 is nice, but a $100K exterior with a $20K interior. They need to get with the program a bit. Incredible power to weight ratio though.
Ever look into the "base" interior of a Porsche 911? Nothing to go nuts over either.

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And then when it breaks you can buy another motor for $15k. The zr1 will be a collector car, only a retard would buy it to mod and race.
Bingo.. and the fewer they make and sell, the better for those that bought it.

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Ever look into the "base" interior of a Porsche 911? Nothing to go nuts over either.

Yeah I see one fairly regularly.

I don't think they are too bad.



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The Vette interior just screams "high end Cobalt" to me.
If a dumb bimbo who wants to suck your cock can tell whether it's a high end cobalt or a ZR1, I think there's enough of a difference.

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I like the looks of it, but what happens when the throttle cable snaps in 2012? Suck my balls domestic cars.
those dont have throttle cables
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those dont have throttle cables
Wow, $100K for a car and it doesn't even come with a throttle cable?

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I like the looks of it, but what happens when the throttle cable snaps in 2012? Suck my balls domestic cars.
Hasn't had a throttle cable in years.
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i think he's making a reference to parts unavailable for his relatively recent model domestic car.

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corvettes are nice I just think they don't justify the price tag is all.
Actually, I think that Corvettes are about the best bang for the buck when it comes to high-performace cars. You get a lot of performance for the price you pay.


Looking at the pic you posted Jim my jaw dropped at the size of the rotors. OMG that front one is HUGE!!! Even the back rotor is big.


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I find it amusing when people complain about sports car interiors. Look at the great sports cars and you'll see very spartan interiors. A great example is the Ferrari F40. The 911's never had anything close to a luxury car's interior, either. Sports cars are supposed to have spartan interiors. If you wanted a car with the great luxurious interior you should get a Lexus.

Porsche interiors don't really change much from a Boxster to a 911TT. But one doesn't buy a Porsche for the interior.


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corvettes are nice I just think they don't justify the price tag is all.
youve got to be kidding me.

if you check out one of these cars in person and actually understand what youre looking at youd think its a bargain. they had a program on last week showing a C6 Z06 being made from start to finish. you watch that show and you cant believe you can own that car for $75k.


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the elise has nothng in the interior. i like it that way. i dont like this variation of the vette that much sure its got balls out power but not a fan of it =(. i like the styling of the z06 more
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And then when it breaks you can buy another motor for $15k.
at 6psi there would be no worries of breakage.

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