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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-03-2008, 08:36 PM Thread Starter
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SUV advice

Well as most of you know my car went up in a blaze Saturday night and now I am looking for something different.

I never owned a SUV but i am looking towards a durango or Grand Cherokee

Mind you I don't want/need to spend shit loads of money as its only going to be driven during winter and really crappy days. Also looking in the suv direction so i can tow the bikes and jet ski.

You thoughts opion as i need to decide with in the next couple of days

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .

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Nissan Xterra, Toyota FJ are good. Pulls trailers fine.
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The fj is just dam ugly and way to much then i care to pay.

The xterra tho isnt bad

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .

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FJ's are still cheaper than Durangos and Cherokees (btw the new durangos are butt ugly also)
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The Jeep Grand Cherokee are nice and I have a 03 Durango and never had any issues. The Toyota 4 Runner are nice. They pull 5000 with the V6 and more with the V8 I think. I would love to get a 4 Runner now, but I have no problems with the Dodge so I'm keeping it.

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Yeah i heard the 4runner were good my mother has on thats a under cover vehicle and she hasnt had problem other then minor ones

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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FJ's are still cheaper than Durangos and Cherokees (btw the new durangos are butt ugly also)

I am going with used this time as i dont need new due to the limited usage its going to have

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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Yeah i heard the 4runner were good my mother has on thats a under cover vehicle and she hasnt had problem other then minor ones
I would just go with that. As much as I love my Dodge, my next truck will probably be a Toyota.

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The v8 Durango and Grand Cherokees get 10-14 mpg in case that's a concern. I have an older ram and it only gets 11-16 mpg, but it has 186,000 on it and I haven't had many problems with it at all. As far as staying away from Chrysler, all American vehicles have iffy reliabilty cases so don't let that be too much of a factor. Check Craigslist though, most used grand cherokees have TONS of miles on them which should tell you something.
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V6 4.0 liter 4Runner for the MFGDW!!!! Tellin' ya man, they're damn pricey but well worth it. Every person I know with one loves em to death. I know you like to ride in all sortsa foul weather but after you buy a 4Runner you might just end up driving that thing all the time! In fact, the next ride I buy will most likely be a 4Runner.

EDIT: anyways, I don't know why the hell you would consider another Mopar product after what happened in your garage today...

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I have a 3 year old ( almost ) Grand Cherokee with a 5.7 Hemi.
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There are so many to choose from, you would need to define more requirements. Price, towing ability, manliness factor (for example, would jokes that your new CR-V is a "chick" car bother you?), fuel economy, new or used...

Based on what you said (towing bikes or jet skis), I would look at mide size SUVs: Trailblazer/Envoy, Ford Explorer, Nissan Xterra, Toyota 4Runner, new Toyota RAV44 w/ V6, Nissan Pathfinder, Jeep Grand Cherokee, BMW X5, Honda Ridgeline (sort of an SUV), Mercedes ML, Subaru Tribeca (facelifted one), Land Rover LR2 or LR3, to name just a few.

If you want a sporty SUV, look at the SRT8 Grand Cherokee, Trailblazer SS, BMW X5 V8.

Does it need to be a traditional SUV? Many of the crossover/station wagon on steroid things will probably tow 2 bikes or two jet skis just fine. You may get a little better fuel economy and a quieter more comfortable ride too.

Good luck on your hunt and sorry to hear about the fire.
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For what it's worth, I picked up an 06 Grand Cherokee this fall for $15.5K with 29,000 miles. V6 / 4x4

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01' PT Cruiser , by 20K front end was rebuilt, 28K new shock, struts and complete suspension...61K transmission blown (pieces handed back to me in a box gears SHEARED off), 95k 2nd transmission blown, 110K control arms need to be replaced. Complained to Chrysler coporate from day 1, was told to go F*** myself. Argued with them that the car was a lemon, I was told point blank to SUE THEM because thats the only way I'd get anywhere, and they promised to keep me tied up in red tape. Nice huh?

DUMPED THE POS and got an '07 Saturn Vue. amazing customer service and a great SUV for the $$. I'll never get another Daimler product again!

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We lurve our '06 Xterra. Fab in the snow, and tows the enclosed trailer with two bikes and gear no problem. 5000 pound tow capacity, and compact enough that it's not a pain in the arse in the city. It's got the wet gear storage on top and rails in the rear for a bike rack inside. Not at all glamorous on the inside, but that's not what I go for anyhoo.

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Get a "Cute Ute". CR-V, RAV4, Kia Sportage, Ford Escape

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01' PT Cruiser , by 20K front end was rebuilt, 28K new shock, struts and complete suspension...61K transmission blown (pieces handed back to me in a box gears SHEARED off), 95k 2nd transmission blown, 110K control arms need to be replaced. Complained to Chrysler coporate from day 1, was told to go F*** myself. Argued with them that the car was a lemon, I was told point blank to SUE THEM because thats the only way I'd get anywhere, and they promised to keep me tied up in red tape. Nice huh?

DUMPED THE POS and got an '07 Saturn Vue. amazing customer service and a great SUV for the $$. I'll never get another Daimler product again!

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So what's goin on with the snow problem you were having on the Vue?
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So what's goin on with the snow problem you were having on the Vue?
Saturn Rocks! It was loose seals and 50mph winds which blew the snow in through the weak seals...they are fixing the seals and will pressure test them when they are done. It was a freak thing.

The service manager also told me they will have the inside of my car detailed if any water marks were left anywhere (which they weren't). They are great (this is Saturn of Elmhurst). Chrysler would have given me the finger per usual.

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Saturn Rocks! It was loose seals and 50mph winds which blew the snow in through the weak seals...they are fixing the seals and will pressure test them when they are done. It was a freak thing.

The service manager also told me they will have the inside of my car detailed if any water marks were left anywhere (which they weren't). They are great (this is Saturn of Elmhurst). Chrysler would have given me the finger per usual.

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I'm glad to hear they took care of it for ya and even offered the detail. Some places need to learn that sometimes all it takes is a little lip service to make a customer happy. Mopar is gonna hate me for this but I hafta say I never liked any Mopar products except the old school hot rods. You gotta give it to them for inventing the minivan though!
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I'm glad to hear they took care of it for ya and even offered the detail. Some places need to learn that sometimes all it takes is a little lip service to make a customer happy. Mopar is gonna hate me for this but I hafta say I never liked any Mopar products except the old school hot rods. You gotta give it to them for inventing the minivan though!
Right...Dodge Carvan...worst transmissions ever built FTW.
Whats so weird is I know people who have Jeeps and have driven them into the ground....hundreds of thousands of miles...I couldn't even get 20K out of my over priced, over rated POS.

I love American Heavy Metal...old school MOPAR...not the crap they are putting out today.

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There are so many to choose from, you would need to define more requirements. Price, towing ability, manliness factor (for example, would jokes that your new CR-V is a "chick" car bother you?), fuel economy, new or used...

Based on what you said (towing bikes or jet skis), I would look at mide size SUVs: Trailblazer/Envoy, Ford Explorer, Nissan Xterra, Toyota 4Runner, new Toyota RAV44 w/ V6, Nissan Pathfinder, Jeep Grand Cherokee, BMW X5, Honda Ridgeline (sort of an SUV), Mercedes ML, Subaru Tribeca (facelifted one), Land Rover LR2 or LR3, to name just a few.

If you want a sporty SUV, look at the SRT8 Grand Cherokee, Trailblazer SS, BMW X5 V8.

Does it need to be a traditional SUV? Many of the crossover/station wagon on steroid things will probably tow 2 bikes or two jet skis just fine. You may get a little better fuel economy and a quieter more comfortable ride too.

Good luck on your hunt and sorry to hear about the fire.
As far as the manliness factor I am not insecure with myself where i actually would buy a car to appease a women cause due to lack of skills. I am looking for used since the car will be driven for winter months and the occasional trip where i would rather drive. I am probally going to go with a Cherokee tho need to research more and also taking note of the advice from the more experienced

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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My ex had a Durango and I drove it for may be 200-300 miles in total, both in dry summer conditions and during a winter snow storm. BMW X5 aside, this is the SUV I like the most so far. Toyotas are great, but every time I drive them, I feel like I'm playing a video game - zero feedback on steering an suspension (btw, that's also the reason I hate Camry with passion). She didn't have much problems with it either, but she also wasn't driving it that much. The only thing I didn't like about Durango was cheapish interior. IMHO, the platform deserves much better.

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Saturn Rocks! It was loose seals and 50mph winds which blew the snow in through the weak seals...they are fixing the seals and will pressure test them when they are done. It was a freak thing.


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Sweet, you blow seals. Can I watch?
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Right...Dodge Carvan...worst transmissions ever built FTW.
Whats so weird is I know people who have Jeeps and have driven them into the ground....hundreds of thousands of miles...I couldn't even get 20K out of my over priced, over rated POS.

I love American Heavy Metal...old school MOPAR...not the crap they are putting out today.

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Exactly. Funny how their quality was going UP until Daimler bought them then if plummeted. They were going on the idea that everyone buys a new one every 2 yrs. That may work for Mercedes where people can afford to replace them every 2 yrs. The only thing Daimler did right was leave the Viper team alone to do what they needed to. I couldnt imiagine how fucked up vipers would had become if Dr Z got his kraut fingers into the Viper's dept.

I had less problems with my highly modified 88 Shelby CSX (dodge shadow for those that dont know which dodge shelby used) than I had with my 98 stock dakota. Now I have this wonderfull missfire issue that I cant get fixed. Pretty much the whole ign system has been replaced. Bucks like mad. Sometimes only above 3000, sometimes only below and sometimes is fine for 20 min, then surging like hell. Its a real treat when this happens on glare ice. Not to mention the wonderfull power steering leak it has AGAIN. this time its worse than the last time. Cant wait until spring and just freaking dump this money pit.
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