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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 02-18-2008, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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What would a step down in your career be worth to you?

So the word is out that I'm looking for a new job. My friend is a manager at a company in my industry. He's offering me the same job I was doing before I took my current job. The reason I took my current job is because it was much better for my career and a lot more money. Unfortunately the current job is going away because of some issues with my customer. So he offered me my old job, but with a $20k increase to my current pay. I'm debating it, but I really don't want to stay in Illinois.

It raised an interesting question to me, what would you have to get paid to take a step down in your career?

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20k increase? or typo?
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no typo. $20k more than what i'm currently making

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20K is usually my price to make a move. so ya I might o it as long as you dont mind the job.




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thats what im thinking.. but then again i took a pay cut to work in an industry i love
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hmmm a ducati a year. So does that means in 3 years you could be classier than Tony?

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thats what im thinking.. but then again i took a pay cut to work in an industry i love
Loved the old job (more than my current). I just wasn't challenged enough by it. Anyways for me it's not really a price issue since i want to move. I'm just wondering what you guys would do.

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20K is usually my price to make a move. so ya I might o it as long as you dont mind the job.
Same here, if the work is enjoyable I don't really think it's a step down.

Question...How is it a step down? Depending on the corporate layout where you work, if you make more it's always a step up.

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dude if its not worth it to you to stay in Illinois then your young not married right? and kids, if you had all of those I would stay make the sacrafice for your family then. Go travel see the world!! you will regret it if you stay and I would say traveling is priceless!!! you can learn a lot of things as well as experience a ton that money will never buy!
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Same here, if the work is enjoyable I don't really think it's a step down.

Question...How is it a step down? Depending on the corporate layout where you work, if you make more it's always a step up.
for me it's a step down because of territory, accounts, and visibility. Right now I call on one of the top 5 customers in the world, I get global exposure, and visibility up to the ceo level. The other job is many small accounts, just in Illinois, extremely tough to make a name for yourself outside of the state thus making the next move up tougher.

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I myself took a pay cut to have a normal schedule with no holidays or weekends. Plus I get to live in a city with great all year round weather. I have more time for myself and my family and I'm a lot happier. It just depends on what your priorities are and what your motivation is.

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I myself took a pay cut to have a normal schedule with no holidays or weekends. Plus I get to live in a city with great all year round weather. I have more time for myself and my family and I'm a lot happier. It just depends on what your priorities are and what your motivation is.
100% agree. that's why I'm not taking the job. but we all have a price and just wondering what it is to others. i bet for $50k more you would give that up, i know i'd take this job for $50k more

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well, I had to answer the same question to myself. I was a senior engineer at my last job. However I was at the very top of the food chain - there was no more senior IT engineering position for me in the house and only step up was to management which I don't want to do for now at least.

I interviewed for my current company for the senior level position - same as I was working before, but I guess they had a better candidate and choose to offer that position to him (he actually did not accept it, but thats different story). They still wanted me so they offered me a non senior, but just an engineer position with senior lever salary - that was about 10% increase.

So, technically I took a step down, but an increase in salary, and more important - I am still shooting for a promotion to senior engineer within 1-1.5 years from now and the company has a better advancement path with a possibility of going to systems architect level in the future
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100% agree. that's why I'm not taking the job. but we all have a price and just wondering what it is to others. i bet for $50k more you would give that up, I know I'd take this job for $50k more
I took a 30K a year pay cut for normalcy and because my daughter asked me to work days. Sure I could make more and Chicago but for what, so I can work my butt off for a house I barely spend anytime in and so I can't take a vaction to anywhere in 7 years.

In the year since we've moved here to SD I've gone to more different places and done a lot more than I ever did while I was in Chicago, since I've goten married and had my daughter.

Sure everyone has a price but to me there's no price tag for what I have now. Trust me my financial life would be a lot simpler in Chicago than here in San Diego but I'm truly happy here and so is my family.

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for me it's a step down because of territory, accounts, and visibility. Right now I call on one of the top 5 customers in the world, I get global exposure, and visibility up to the ceo level. The other job is many small accounts, just in Illinois, extremely tough to make a name for yourself outside of the state thus making the next move up tougher.


So status and ego... Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt wrong answers.

Work/Life balance / Money and skill-building are the keys.

Work Life Balance = Better
Money = more

What about skill building in your "step-down" job ?


Sounds like a no-brainer.



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I am in the same situation right now Steve, except it is not 20K and I am not loosing my job just hate it. Besides the Moto thing isn't even for sure is it?

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Most everyone will be faced with this sooner or later...


Our natural tendency to grow in skill and promote combined with our want for
more money leads us up the corporate ladder. With each step you take there
is compromise. Added expectations and responsibilities and things like
additional hours, additional travel.

We all spend plenty of time working.....eventually you have to ask yourself
"if they offer me the next rung - along with it's expectations is that a step
that I really want to take ?"



Again, it seems to me a reduction in responsibility + more money is a no-brainer.



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hmmm a ducati a year. So does that means in 3 years you could be classier than Tony?
You need to buy a Jeep, and a cool web site like CLSB.

I am going to take a 10K paycut for a year while I am in engineer school. But after that, the pay is better, and better way of working IMHO. There are a lot of people that do not do this because they cannot afford the paycut. Bottom line, do what you enjoy, the money always works out.
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I still don't see how a pay increase is a step down... I would take it in a second just means that as you continue to move up you will get even more money than before.

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