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So I know lesbians like them, What else can you guys tell me about it? I need a new family car. I was thinking of Camry but then a buddy mentions you can get some Subaru for same money plus you get 4x4. This car would be for the wife so it's competing against a 4 cyl Camry Le. I think Subaru has the 2.5 that I am interested in. So how it their reliability (my Toyota Avalon has 150k with the only repair being egr valve 40k ago) how is the resale, how do they drive, what model should a look for, what must have options, and any idea if they are flat towable behind an rv (maybe the stick shift?).


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Man are you kidding. The Forrester is like the national flannel lady car.

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Man are you kidding. The Forrester is like the national flannel lady car.
Here in militant feminazi lesbian land (IU, they're everywhere), I can attest this is the truth. I can't explain why this is the case.

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Lesbians like Subaru's? huh, I learn something new every day.
Its true. For every 10 Subaru wagons, you will find that 8 of them will have rainbow stickers on them. True story.

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I just bought a new WRX about a month ago....with 2k miles on it now I absolutely love it.....I picked the perfect winter to buy a subaru.
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Dmitry, from what little I've worked on Subs I can tell you that they're fairly easy to work on and damn fun to drive as well. The MPG's don't look as great as a similar sized FWD vehicle but hey, you can't have your cake and eat it too right? Only thing I don't like about em is they seem a little small for the size class they compete in. Oh and I've only enjoyed driving the ones with turbos in em, the non-turbos feel too much like a truck engine to me.
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Dmitry, from what little I've worked on Subs I can tell you that they're fairly easy to work on and damn fun to drive as well. The MPG's don't look as great as a similar sized FWD vehicle but hey, you can't have your cake and eat it too right? Only thing I don't like about em is they seem a little small for the size class they compete in. Oh and I've only enjoyed driving the ones with turbos in em, the non-turbos feel too much like a truck engine to me.
Thanks, good info. Any idea on long term reliability? 100K+. I have so many toys that waste gas that I really want a gas saver, plus I don't want to pay for premium so I don't think a turbo will happen.

I have never actually driven or been inside a Subaru now that I think about it. I remember in 2000 when the eclipse got mutilated into the hunk of crap v6 it is now it seemed like wrx was the future.

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Dmitry, from what little I've worked on Subs I can tell you that they're fairly easy to work on and damn fun to drive as well. The MPG's don't look as great as a similar sized FWD vehicle but hey, you can't have your cake and eat it too right? Only thing I don't like about em is they seem a little small for the size class they compete in. Oh and I've only enjoyed driving the ones with turbos in em, the non-turbos feel too much like a truck engine to me.
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Oh also from what I saw on the websites the fuel economy is a little lower but not much worse. Considering the 4x4 I would say it's pretty good.

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AWD is overrated.

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Yes and no. I have a Titan and it would be complete garbage without the 4x4. I realize the Subaru is AWD which is a little different but it will be nice to have if we go rv'ing and decide to explore the desert on the subaru. Plus there was a time when I got my RV stuck on the beach, maybe this could pull it out.

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so u are thinking forester or wrx hatch? get the turbo for sure
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so u are thinking forester or wrx hatch? get the turbo for sure
I have no idea. I'm looking for more offroad ability over speed so Forester? All I know is what I saw on their website, and they don't really tell you what car is for what.

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how do you come to that conclusion
I think he means as far as having it for every day driving or the occasional storm. For that it's not a must but a nice to have in my opinion.

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I have no idea. I'm looking for more offroad ability over speed so Forester? All I know is what I saw on their website, and they don't really tell you what car is for what.
If you are looking for off-road ability then go for either the Forrester or the Legacy Outback. Just remember to keep in mind that every lesbian within a 20 ft radius will be eyeballing you.

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buhaha suh-c i know who to hound when my engine blows up!
I have very little experience with subs, just the ocassional inspection and basic maint for used cars before putting em on the lot for sale. Plus I don't wrench anymore and sold all my tools off. I can try to offer you advice though.

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Thanks, good info. Any idea on long term reliability? 100K+. I have so many toys that waste gas that I really want a gas saver, plus I don't want to pay for premium so I don't think a turbo will happen.

I have never actually driven or been inside a Subaru now that I think about it. I remember in 2000 when the eclipse got mutilated into the hunk of crap v6 it is now it seemed like wrx was the future.

Oh also from what I saw on the websites the fuel economy is a little lower but not much worse. Considering the 4x4 I would say it's pretty good.
Not sure on reliability but a buddy of mine has a WRX that he's been beating on for about 4 years now and has bolted on bigger turbos and exhausts suspensions and all sortsa crap then took everything off and brought it back to stock form. The thing still runs great except for an annoying clunking from the rear shocks. He said it is a common problem on those. Fuel economy numbers may be a little lower on paper but I agree with Rob (below) that AWD is overrated for CARS under normal everyday use. Now you said you'd be driving it on the sand and trying to tow your RV??? out? I think your Titan is more suited to that than a poor little 2.5L. I'd say the best thing to do is just go test drive one. Have your wife drive it then change seats and you drive it. Most people I know that have a sub either hate it or love it, none inbetween.

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Had an outback for a while.Wife had like 90,000 on it when she wrecked it.Never had any problems.Car was great in the snow.You could pull a small trailer and one bike but don't think I would tow much more than that.It was a 5spd 2.5.Ran decent not a rocketship by any means.Solid car.Wife wishs she had another one now.Hell maybe shes part lesbian wahoo.LOL
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Subaru engines are great except the 2007 STis (Garfield, not knocking on your car, but it is true, blame CARB) My 02 WRX lasted forever (125k miles) with big ass turbo and nitrous with doubled Hp from the factory, not bragging, but just showing they can take abuse.

Other than that, they really use a lot of gas. You will be expecting average of 16-18 mpg on any turbo version. A little higher if N/A. They are pricey and small in comparisons but you get AWD, which made driving fun last night instead of scary.

I have the lesbo turbo forester, I am 6'1 and about 230lb, put 2 of me in front and it is very tight. Backseat is so-so. I get 16mpg with my lesborester, but I also have a lead foot, and E85 convertion --->(save money, but waste gas!)
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Subaru engines are great except the 2007 STis (Garfield, not knocking on your car, but it is true, blame CARB) My 02 WRX lasted forever (125k miles) with big ass turbo and nitrous with doubled Hp from the factory, not bragging, but just showing they can take abuse.

Other than that, they really use a lot of gas. You will be expecting average of 16-18 mpg on any turbo version. A little higher if N/A. They are pricey and small in comparisons but you get AWD, which made driving fun last night instead of scary.

I have the lesbo turbo forester, I am 6'1 and about 230lb, put 2 of me in front and it is very tight. Backseat is so-so. I get 16mpg with my lesborester, but I also have a lead foot, and E85 convertion --->(save money, but waste gas!)
haha yah i know the 07's tune suck. piston 4 goes boom alot. i fixed that already and dont knock nearly as bad as stock. enguinuity ftw! oh yah how many gear boxes did u go through on the wrx?
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haha yah i know the 07's tune suck. piston 4 goes boom alot. i fixed that already and dont knock nearly as bad as stock. enguinuity ftw! oh yah how many gear boxes did u go through on the wrx?
interesting. I've read the STis had glass transmissions. I take it that its true?

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Can't argue with that. Beefy Tranny ftw. Pink suspension, Brembos and 6spd makes STi well worth the money in comparison with WRX.

I did not break my tranny, I really babied it when I had it, knowing that it will shatter like glass.
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hahahaha!!! you said "beef" and "tranny". the only words missing from this thread are "carpet" and "scissors".

okay, that was lame.

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I think he means as far as having it for every day driving or the occasional storm. For that it's not a must but a nice to have in my opinion.
Tires make a much bigger difference then the drivetrain layout. I'll take a FWD or RWD car with snow tires any day over an AWD/4WD vehicle with regular all-season tires.

Now AWD + Snow tires, that's the best. I've been flying through traffic in my MS6 with Dunlop Winter Sport M3 tires all winter, passing slow cars in the plowed lanes while I'm driving through 3 inches of snow next to them.

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hahahaha!!! you said "beef" and "tranny". the only words missing from this thread are "carpet" and "scissors".

okay, that was lame.

I had the pretty much the same post typed out but decided not to becasue of said lameness.


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