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Bush approves auto safety study?

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The bill -- dubbed the "Kids and Cars Act" -- also requires NHTSA to study whether to require that power windows and door panels reverse direction when they detect an obstruction, much as automated garage-door openers do. If NHTSA doesn't complete a study within the next two and a half years, it would have to send a report to Congress explaining why.

Requiring windows to automatically reverse when they hit an obstruction likely would cost automakers about $10 per window, according to the legislation, or nearly $700 million annually.

Although it is rare for power windows to kill children, it has happened.

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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...2280499/-1/rss


I can understand a study of non accident related injuries. But all this about auto reversing windows?

Does anyone else think that money and resources could be spent on more important things! I mean really! When I was a kid and the window got closed on my hand, I yelled, they lowered the window! Then told me to keep my damn hands inside the car. Lesson learned. If your child was in their seat with their seat belt on, how did their head get into the window path!

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We can gripe all we want about how money is spent but it's never gonna change.

As far as the window thing goes: that's why they created the window lock button. If you can't trust your children or do not have the skills to teach them or they do not understand the dangers, push the freakin' button so that their controls don't work. Problem solved.
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This sounds like another No Child Left Behind. That didn't work so good either. I went back to talk to my high school teachers during winter vacation. Everyone complained about how No Child Left Behind was an utter failure. This is no difference. Car companies have hard enough times selling cars without having Bush proposing stupid laws to make himself look better to parents. I got an idea, why don't you make parents actually watch their kids. I have baby cousins, you better believe whenever they are around me I(or some1 else) have an eye out for them.

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Requiring windows to automatically reverse when they hit an obstruction likely would cost automakers about $10 per window, according to the legislation, or nearly $700 million annually.
Really. Like the automakers aren't going to roll that into the price of the car. OMG oh no.

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Most European and Japanese cars already do this.

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Really. Like the automakers aren't going to roll that into the price of the car. OMG oh no.
Exactly. That's going to bring people's car payments up by a penny. Oh NAWSS!!!!!

Get real people. Let's go back to bitching about $4 for a gallon of gasoline.

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Exactly. That's going to bring people's car payments up by a penny. Oh NAWSS!!!!!

Get real people. Let's go back to bitching about $4 for a gallon of gasoline.
Where does it stop though? I think there is way too much government regulation in the auto industry. Let the automakers make cars. If people really need something that makes the window stop moving when it encounters a hand, they will buy cars with it. Sooner or later automakers will catch on.

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Most European and Japanese cars already do this.
only in automatic windows though.. which is also how American cars are. if you have standard power windows, jap, euro, American, they will just keep crushing your hand.

and still.. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOUR HANDS OR HEAD IN THE WINDOW?!??!?! parents are no longer responsible for there kids.. sad.

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Also, most (if not all) new cars have the window switch that needs to be pulled up to put the window down. I remember that before people where getting all pissed because children can accidentally pull the window up with their leg if their head was in the window or something. Then automakers put the new switches in which makes it much harder to close the window on accident.

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Where does it stop though? I think there is way too much government regulation in the auto industry. Let the automakers make cars. If people really need something that makes the window stop moving when it encounters a hand, they will buy cars with it. Sooner or later automakers will catch on.
Riiight. Never underestimate stupidity and never let business go unregulated. As much as I hate regulation, it is a necessary evil. You want to know where all the cars that fail US regulations go? They go to countries like SE Asia where trucks tip over constantly and safety is a distant 2nd to price. For this reason, cars that originated from the US demand a much higher price.

No that doesn't mean I want to give the government total control. But I think this is a necessary step. Ever wonder why your moonroof/sunroof only closes 1/2 way in one step? It's because kids/people have suffocated from them closing in on them. Once again never underestimate stupidity.

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Ever wonder why your moonroof/sunroof only closes 1/2 way in one step?
your car is shitty man.. Mopars have one touch sunroof close

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your car is shitty man.. Mopars have one touch sunroof close
Just like with Ducati, it's not a flaw, it's a feature.

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Did you wear a helmet when you rode your bicycle as a kid?
Hell, seat belts didn't exist when I was a kid!
Hell, I used build ramps to jump with a piece of wood and a wagon. FYI that doesn't work well. We had a big gorge at a construction site we'd jump like a motocross racer on our bicycles. I've cracked my noggin' so many times! It explains a lot!

I think every car should have crank windows then. If you continue to crank and crush your own head, then you deserve it!

If your to dumb to operate a push button window or can't watch your kids, then you shouldn't have a license.

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You guys miss what this law is all about. Some tard back over his kid with an aircraft carrier sized SUV then blamed it on the car company because it had big blind spots. This is what happens when every retard has kids. Just because you can breed doesnt mean you should! The bill just adds to the wussifing of America. I went to my friend's son's Bday party and they had a pinata,but it had a string to pull that let the candy fall. I remember part of the fun was hitting all you friends with a big stick every time you pissed the damn thing. I liked it when shit was dangerous because the weak ones died just like nature wants its, well some survived like Greg.

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