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Help! Half my house has no power!

Here's the story..

On Monday morning (damn early), my house had a power failure. Sometime in the day ( I was gone after that), the power came back on. Well, most of it. Two of the three bedrooms and the hallway (on one breaker) had no power. One part of the kitchen and the laundry room lights (also one circuit) didn't work. Since these both were on two circuit breakers, I figured somehow the breakers got fried, even though they both switched on/off via the lever.

I went to Sears and bought a multimeter (always good to have) and a couple circuit breakers (with correct amperage). I replaced them and *blam*, still no power. I took them back thinking I bought the wrong type (even though they physically fit into the spot). Talked to a guy there and he said it was because they were different brands, but this other (third brand) would work. Why would the power care which brand it was?

Anyways, replaced them again and STILL no power. What could this be? Am I missing something? I checked for power with the multimeter, the line I tied into one of the circuit breakers has 120V, but the other for some reason doesn't.

1.) Is it the circuit breaker brand? Do all the breakers need to be the same brand?
2.) Where do these lines going into the circuit breaker go? Could these two somehow be disconnected from there?

I would just rather not pay an electrician to do this since I can probably handle it myself

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call ComEd and have them verify that everything is ok on the outside of the house first.

brand shouldn't matter inside the panel
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Do you have main breakers? How many? If more than one, check the other. If not move all furniture to the rooms with light before the sun sets.
Well, the house is a 3 bedroom ranch, barely 1000 sq. feet. I doubt it would have two main breakers. Has one 100 amp main breaker. I looked around for another box over the year I've been here and haven't found one yet. I doubt the main breaker would be away from the smaller circuits anyways.

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You have about four and a half hours to move the furniture then. Need any help?

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Are all the non-working breakers all even or all odd numbered? There are 2 120v feeds into a house, and one neutral. If only one of the Hot leads is working only half your stuff would have power.
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You have about four and a half hours to move the furniture then. Need any help?
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I agree with Jim call him.... i think he sells this stuff for a living.
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Sounds to me like one leg of your 220 coming in is dead. Measure both legs coming in to see if you have 220 across the legs or 110 to each leg to ground. You may have a blown fuse on one leg OUTSIDE of your house.

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Are all the non-working breakers all even or all odd numbered? There are 2 120v feeds into a house, and one neutral. If only one of the Hot leads is working only half your stuff would have power.
This is the best answer so far, it sounds like you've lost a leg coming into the house. So you will have to call Com-ed and have them come test the lines coming into your house. You are not fused outside your house so dont go wasting your time looking for that.

couple of things:
who is the panel made by?
some breakers can fit other panels, and some will fit with modifications, and others will not fit at all.
but call me about your breakers and i will make sure you get the right ones.

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Jimbo,

Ron came over and looked at it closer than I did. Turns out one leg of my 100 amp main breaker isn't making contact. Sucks! There is no other way to turn power off other than ComEd, and as near as I can tell, they have to replace the breaker too. Or maybe an electrician? It doesn't look anymore difficult than replacing my other breakers aside from the creepy 8 gauge wire going into it!

We moved Max's room and the kitchen power to the other leg. Downside is the furnace is also on the same leg. So I need to get this fixed pretty soon in case it gets chilly.

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LOL, its just an 8 gauge wire. just be carefull and use some good insulated tools. I deal with 480 shit all the time. and its live.




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Oh ya and you better call jim before his head explodes




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Only use one hand, never give the juice a chance to pass through your chest. Hand to feet, is you best bet. Well your best bet is to never take the juice, you better call Jim.
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...never take the juice....
this is a good rule of thumb. and tony is right, jim's head is going to explode.

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is this what happens when you only keep paying half your utility bill?
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Jimbo,

Ron came over and looked at it closer than I did. Turns out one leg of my 100 amp main breaker isn't making contact. Sucks! There is no other way to turn power off other than ComEd, and as near as I can tell, they have to replace the breaker too. Or maybe an electrician? It doesn't look anymore difficult than replacing my other breakers aside from the creepy 8 gauge wire going into it!

We moved Max's room and the kitchen power to the other leg. Downside is the furnace is also on the same leg. So I need to get this fixed pretty soon in case it gets chilly.

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Chris, com-ed will turn your power off for you but DO NOT have them change your breaker out, the price of a new main breaker is more then buying a new panel and the price they will charge you to do it will be assinine! do yourself a favor and call me I may have a breaker laying around here you can have, but at least dont do anything till you talk to me, unless ofcourse money is no object!

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Grover did you call Jim yet?

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Grover did you call Jim yet?
NOPE!!! he must be giving the bill to MAKS!!!

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If you are in a total bind and com ed cant get there for a long while just go out to the meter and break the little seal they have but save it! Remove the cover carefully and pull the meter. It should kill the power to the main. CHECK it First! Then check the connections (could be lugs.) Ohm out the wire and if its bad or broke chances are its from the meter to the panel main. Pull a new wire and reinstall the meter. This will liven back the wires to the main. Put the broken tab back on the meter and then turn off all breakers in panel. Throw the main and then bring on circuits one at a time. Go plug in your tv elect equip as well. If the wire is dead BEFORE the meter com ed will eat it on them.


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I'm worried he may have taken the juice, if he does eltrical like he does parking lot manuvers, I'm worried, Grover, tell us your OK!
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I'm worried he may have taken the juice, if he does eltrical like he does parking lot manuvers, I'm worried, Grover, tell us your OK!

I can just picture grovie stuck to the panel and Maks stuck to him trying to pull him from the panel. Remeber its not the voltage that kills you its the amperage!!




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kinda like 10-10-220, wanna save a buck or two?

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grover you do know when you get electricuted you loose control of all bodily functions, just thought you might want to know that just incase!

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Hahahaha I think he's not calling Jim out of Spite now

Hey grover Thee thing about pulling the meter is correct. it should kill the power to the panal just make sure to test and re-test before you touch anythig without insulation.

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damn,

Sorry, the library's internet went out so I had to go to CLC. I'll give you a call Jim.

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