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Im interviewing people this week and need someone thats proficient in MSOffice, primarily Excel, Word, Outlook and Publisher.

Not being top notch in some of those myself Im not sure how to ask *how* proficient they are in those applications. I know what I need to be done but I dont want to just show someone what I need and have them say..oh sure I can do that. Thats why Im interviewing this week - I was grossly misled a few months ago.

Is there anything online that gives someone a test of their knowledge of these programs or a list of things to ask?

Im getting people that are saying they have *intermediate* level skills in this and that. What does intermediate mean? How in depth should they be ?

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Have them sit at a computer and tell them what you want. Open excell and make this into a chart. Open word do this. Etc.

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tell them you would like them to bring examples of thier work.

give them a chance to bring something in to impress you. your the customer here they need to sell themselves to you.





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tell them you would like them to bring examples of thier work.
On a flashdrive at least they would be proficient enough to get it there.

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i agree with the work examples as well as a list of typical tasks u want done in office. hell set them up to fail to weed them out further
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just make sure they don't bring documents they created at their last workplace - that could be a possible legal issue
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I saw the work she could do - or said she could do. It was a 3 ring binder that clearly she couldnt have done.

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Live demo is the only way to insure they actually know what they are doing.


Draw up a standard spreadsheet with some calculations on a piece of paper,
insure they need to create some decent formulas...have them recreate it.
Watch them work.

Draw up a simple 5 page power point presentation on a piece of paper,
have them recreate it, watch them work.

Have them open word and type a two page business introduction of themself
and see if it's professionally formated when they are done, watch them work.



They can either do it or not, efficiently or not.


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hire a recruiter. Let them weed out qualifications, and you can handle personality fit.

Its going to take you ALOT of time to do these suggestions, and time is money. also, if you hire another person that isn't qualified you will be back in this mess again in 3 months.

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I define intermediate as having skills to make somewhat complex spreadsheets with linked tables and some advanced functions.

in my opinion, high level excel skills include pivot tables, advanced data filters, and use of advanced functions (Vlookup, sumif, etc)

If you can find someone who can use Access on a basic to intermediate level, they shouldn't have any problems using the other programs.

Look, I can appreciate this. I was young too, I felt just like you. Hated authority, hated all my bosses, thought they were full of shit. Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no heart, but if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you've got no brains. Because there are no story-book romances, no fairy-tale endings. So before you run out and change the world, ask yourself, "What do you really want?"
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i can use all of those proficiently. just hire me to work out of my house.
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i can use all of those proficiently. just hire me to work out of my house.
I cant afford you

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here is a site that asks for caertain things for each program to show proficiency. Maybe that will help

http://www.snu.edu/?p=%7B9C457AF3-24...01C8C5E9C9F%7D
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Best practice would be to use a third-party vendor to conduct the skills testing. A temp agency can do this for you for a minimal fee ($20-$25 per applicant).

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Best practice would be to use a third-party vendor to conduct the skills testing. A temp agency can do this for you for a minimal fee ($20-$25 per applicant).

Trust me.
and the agency would give you a *grade* ?
or at least tell what they can do or can't do?

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Intermediate in this context could mean anything.

I would consider myself "intermediate" simply because I have used these apps for years to generate engineering documents and spreadsheet and can work my way through most any advanced technique given adequate time.

To me and "expert" would be someone with a need to use these advanced techniques often enough for them to be nearly second nature.

An intermediate should be able to create moderately complex documents, spreadsheets, or presentations without too much trouble, especially from existing templates, but not necessarily in record time.

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and the agency would give you a *grade* ?
or at least tell what they can do or can't do?
If you are specific to what the agency is capable of doing they would be able to qualify / disqualify your applicants.

In the past when I have done work for agencies, they will have the person take a test and be able to assign that person a score, like xx% of 100%.

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Thats actually a really good idea




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If you are specific to what the agency is capable of doing they would be able to qualify / disqualify your applicants.

In the past when I have done work for agencies, they will have the person take a test and be able to assign that person a score, like xx% of 100%.
Exactly. The firm we work with uses software that provides a total score along with a breakdown of errors for each software program we test (we require competency in Word, Excel, Outlook and Powerpoint). We do the sourcing, screening and interviewing, then send our "finalists" for the typing/software skills assessment. From there, we make the decision as to whether or not we want to move forward with the candidate.

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