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Opinion's wanted on buying a new VW GTI

Here's the deal, I need to buy a new car and i've been leaning towards a VW GTI. I test drove one today and I loved the car. The thing is, it's $25,000. I wonder if it's the best deal on a car in the up to $25K range. I'm really not open to Japanese cars or other korean cars. I am only looking in the American/European range. I spend $700-800 a month in gas in my Dodge Ram and it's really pissing me off. I figure if I buy a new car that gets 25-30mpg, it would pay for itself in a few years. I would still keep my truck for towing and driving my dogs around.
The Golf is the only VW I like and I would prefer to buy a car with some driving excitement since I drive 110 miles a day. I also like the fact that it has the 2.0L intercooled turbo and 6speed manual. It's just a bit to take paying $25K for an economy car. I'm looking for suggestions on other new vehicles that I may not have thought about. My criteria is: $25K max, 25-30mpg on the highway, roomy enough for a 6'4" 250lb. man to comfortably drive for 3 hours a day, FUN TO DRIVE, preferably a manual transmission, good warrantee, and I prefer a coupe.
I appreciate anybodys input on the subject as I'm stumped on other options. I will be selling my Escalade that I never drive to possibly get a VW golf which I think is a first in the history of Volkswagens
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Sorry man, but VW GTI is NOT an economy car. VW Rabbit is.
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VW has gotten a bad rap with reliability. It seems to be improving a lot. I agree that this vehicle is not really an economy car, but I do really dig VW vehicles, especially their new hard top convertible.

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As Much as I love VW's, they are not a good investment. Whole lot of soul and heart for a 4 wheeled vehicle, but all in all, disapointing resale and reliability. One day perhaps. I'd save your money buy a used ugly ass toyota Echo and laugh all the way to the bank on the fuel savings if you drive that much.
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I'm really not open to Japanese cars or other korean cars. I am only looking in the American/European range.
So what you're saying is you like spending lots of time at the dealer service dept.

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So far no suggestions? FYI, I used to be a master BMW technician and have a fondness of German/European vehicles and I can work on them without a problem once it is out of warranty. VW has a 12 year unlimited mileage paint and body warranty, 4 year 50K vehicle warranty. I drive about 20K a year so the warranty will be up within 3 years or so.
About the economy car thing, a Rabbit gets the same highway mileage the GTI gets, 29mpg.
I would still like some suggestions though, that aren't Japanese.
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no jap means no choices sorry to say. if you haven't noticed the car industry is pretty much owned by the japs for a reason. on that note you have 2 choices: american and other european.

american is easy: GM or Ford/Lincoln/Mercury

Euro: BMW, Benz, Volvo, Rover, Saab, Porsche....

What about the BMW 1 series? or Mini?

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no jap means no choices sorry to say. if you haven't noticed the car industry is pretty much owned by the japs for a reason. on that note you have 2 choices: american and other european.

american is easy: GM or Ford/Lincoln/Mercury

Euro: BMW, Benz, Volvo, Rover, Saab, Porsche....

What about the BMW 1 series? or Mini?
$25K limit and roomy enough for long periods of time for a 6'4" 250lb man.
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Uh, the consensus and logic seem to dictate, Japanese = reliable low ownership cost and a certain lack of passion. European = high repair (or at least service cost) and personaility for days. You can't have your cake and ........... If you trying to convince yourself that VW'bs are good cars check out consumer reports and taste the worst of the worst (black circles everywhere).
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$25K limit and roomy enough for long periods of time for a 6'4" 250lb man.
I hear the Beetle has a LOT of headroom.

Not trying to be a jackass for real. You're just really limiting yourself with your parameters. What do you have against jap cars?
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Uh, the consensus and logic seem to dictate, Japanese = reliable low ownership cost and a certain lack of passion. European = high repair (or at least service cost) and personaility for days. You can't have your cake and ........... If you trying to convince yourself that VW'bs are good cars check out consumer reports and taste the worst of the worst (black circles everywhere).
better off going to the dealer and asking the techs there for reliability issues. Japanese dealers are not laying off any mechanics.
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About the economy car thing, a Rabbit gets the same highway mileage the GTI gets, 29mpg.
I would still like some suggestions though, that aren't Japanese.
The fact it's almost half the price is what makes it economical

if you base it strickly on mileage, neither one are really economical. Civics get almost 40 mpg.
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I hear the Beetle has a LOT of headroom.

Not trying to be a jackass for real. You're just really limiting yourself with your parameters. What do you have against jap cars?
I don't have anything against Jap cars, I just personally don't want to drive one. The economic ones are boring as hell and the sporty ones are ugly as hell. I've never bought a new car and I want the one I buy to be sporty, fun, and good on gas. This eliminates most jap cars, that and the fact that everyone i've been in I don't fit into.
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I don't have anything against Jap cars, I just personally don't want to drive one. The economic ones are boring as hell and the sporty ones are ugly as hell. I've never bought a new car and I want the one I buy to be sporty, fun, and good on gas. This eliminates most jap cars, that and the fact that everyone i've been in I don't fit into.
What about a saturn then?
And the new Chevy Malibu's are nice I had a rental one, also maybe a Pontiac.
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You've got yourself a dilemna there. I say lease a VW and enjoy. I highly suggest against buying one though.
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The fact it's almost half the price is what makes it economical

if you base it strickly on mileage, neither one are really economical. Civics get almost 40 mpg.
Remember, i'm coming from a 13mpg huge truck, so a 25mpg car is very economical. The inital cost of the car isn't really a factor as long as it's under $25K. For that range, I can get a Dodge Charger or Ford Taurus or Chevy Impala. They are about as boring as a car gets though. Too bad Ford stopped making the Focus SVT cause it would be a nice alternative. The SRT4 Neon is cool, but they don't make them anymore and I don't fit in the seats
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What about a saturn then?
And the new Chevy Malibu's are nice I had a rental one, also maybe a Pontiac.
Yeah, the new G8 is BADASS, but they are first year models and they start at $26K for the v6 base model. They probably won't be giving deals on the brand new models which means near $30K OTD.
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Buy a used VW, save thousands and get exactly what you want.
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get a 06/07 GTI fully loaded.


BTW, I know you're not really into Jap cars, but the new Civic SI is a pretty direct competitor to the GTI in all respects, a better value, and better MPG, and better looking IMHO. 22.8K MSRP w/ nav. 197 HP v. 200HP for the GTI (the GTI does have a really nice torque curve due to the turbo though) 2800lbs Si v 3100lbs GTI.

IIRC, they're pretty close on 0-60 times and skidpad numbers too.

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The SRT4 Neon is cool, but they don't make them anymore and I don't fit in the seats
Here is the successor to the Neon SRT4:
Caliber SRT4 (net price: $23,015 )



285HP; 265lb.-ft.

Its interior is actualy quite larger than the good ol' Neon, who knows, you might actually fit in that one

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Here is the successor to the Neon SRT4:
Caliber SRT4 (net price: $23,015 )



285HP; 265lb.-ft.

Its interior is actualy quite larger than the good ol' Neon, who knows, you might actually fit in that one
That's actually not a bad option. I didn't like the look of the Caliber, but the srt4 version is pretty badass.
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