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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-24-2008, 04:13 PM Thread Starter
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Home Security System advice

Sup guys & girls. Ok need SERIOUS feeback please, so please don't tell me to a get a big dog, mountain lion, or a bear or something mmmkkkay...

Ok, I live in a more remote & quiet area in Chicago and to feel safer and really just to better protect my shit, I'm exploring which is the best company monitored home security service people have that can either recommend or tell me to stay the fuck away from. (Brinks, ADT, etc)

Any and all "realistic" experience and advice is much appreciated.

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I have a home camera set up on the outside of the house i can monitor it day and night from any where with a connection.

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I've had Brinks for 6 years and love it.

That's what i like to hear, thx man. Do you have a certain pricing package?
Any advice as too what to get and what to avoid with brinks?

Thx again man.

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That's what i like to hear, thx man. Do you have a certain pricing package?
Any advice as too what to get and what to avoid with brinks?

Thx again man.
I got the top of the line system when I got it. Not sure what it's like now. Really it's pretty simple. Just think about what windows and doors you want to have sensors on. They'll help you plan it out too. I like the upgraded keypad because it showed the zone breach on the screen. If you have digital phone from comcast the backup system is hit or miss as far as if it will work or not. You can get a cellular back up too if you want to pay for it.

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I got the top of the line system when I got it. Not sure what it's like now. Really it's pretty simple. Just think about what windows and doors you want to have sensors on. They'll help you plan it out too. I like the upgraded keypad because it showed the zone breach on the screen. If you have digital phone from comcast the backup system is hit or miss as far as if it will work or not. You can get a cellular back up too if you want to pay for it.

Thx Brian, i really appreciate the feedback.

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Just readin through some old home security threads and was wondering if anyone ever did a video surveilance setup, in particular through ADT?

Im thinking about a few upgrades too....heat and/smoke detectors. For those w these already, how many and where should these go? 1 per floor?

Does this add to the monthly monitoring cost?

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I used to work for a company that did this. Brinks, adt, and the other which monitors smaller alarm companies, are all about the same. I have known people that worked at adt and the other place and its all the same. I have not worked at or do not know anyone from brinks but i would imagine its the same. I was working at the dispatch center when 911 happened. I would really just go with whatever was the best deal. My mom has ADT and its been fine.

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Just readin through some old home security threads and was wondering if anyone ever did a video surveilance setup, in particular through ADT?

Im thinking about a few upgrades too....heat and/smoke detectors. For those w these already, how many and where should these go? 1 per floor?

Does this add to the monthly monitoring cost?

Anything else to consider?
make sure when you have your monitoring done, that you have special instructions. What I mean, is for example, you can say dispatch police only if multiple alarms go off or zones, or call key holder first before dispatching. I do this with the shops since the wind would set off a door sensor. It was costing so much to have the police come out for false alarms. That is something ot think about. Usually the more you have monitored the more it costs. You can have radio installed and are contacted that way, etc.. There are many options to these systems.

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Honestly monitoring is BS, you're stuff will be long gone by the time the cops respond. A camera system and DVR will just make you wonder why you can catch someone on camera but still nobody gets arrested. Really it all boils down to making your place discouraging enough to make a thief move on to easier targets.

In Chicago a good street level fence is a good start. A buzzer system with a camera sets the tone nicely. Good locks and door hardware is next. Window bars are good but if they are not architecturally appropriate I think you get as much deterrent out of actually locking your windows and having cameras place so that they are easily viable from the street. At night all corners and approaches should have motion sensitive lights. Oh and put up "Monitored by" stickers on all the windows.

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Anyone have just the cell backup and no landline?
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Hmm.

Some thoughts:

If you do get an alarm system, be aware that the monitoring will cost you about $35-40 per month as an ongoing bill. If you have a standard AT&T landline, then they will connect the monitoring through that connection. If you don't then they have options for either Internet or cellular connections, but those carry a higher monthly charge. Any of these systems can be circumvented by a reasonably knowledgeable crook. Also be aware that the CPD can and will decline to investigate a residential alarm called in by the monitoring company, unless someone (human) on site has verified that a crime is in progress.

Perhaps some other options:
Lighting: Get a set of timers or an X10 timer system and have lights going on and off around the house at varying times each evening. Even better if the times vary each night according to your normal life schedule. [An excellent timer setup is one where you never need to turn on or off a light that is on a timer, because it follows your normal schedule well.] One light in the living room won't deter anyone. Timers in the Living Room, Kitchen, Bedroom, and if possible bath and eating areas are good. Exterior lighting- use motion sensor lights around the perimeter of your home. No need to light every inch in most neighborhoods, but motion sensor lights or dusk to dawn lights working at each building entry will be a deterrent.

Make your home look like it's not special: Don't put your 65" plasma where it can be seen from the street. Use heavy sheer or translucent curtains that do not allow someone to see in from the street at night when interior lights are on.

The more you fortify your place, the more it looks like you have stuff worth stealing.

The trick is to make it harder than average to figure out what's inside and/or to break in, but overall make your place not stand out from the other houses on the block. This includes outside maintenance and things like shoveling snow/mowing the lawn, taking in papers, flyers and mail, etc. Anything that will tip off a crook that you are away is bad.

Locks, doors, windows, etc: Good security is simple. Deadbolt locks on each door. Install them so that breaking a window will not allow someone to reach inside and unlock the door. Solid wood or steel doors, with sturdy frames. Lock the doors / deadbolts when you go. Get devices that limit window travel to 4" or less. Otherwise, always close and lock windows that can be reached by a very strong and athletic 20 year old whenever you leave the house. This includes windows on the upper levels that can be reached from a porch or garage roof, tree, etc.

Don't show off your stuff. Your visible life to your neighbors should not be more flashy or ostentatious than theirs. This will attract thieves. You want to fit in to your neighborhood. If you have real nice stuff, consider not having it lying around when having incidental guests in (other than known good and honest friends).

The bottom line for all security is:

Make it appear both less lucrative and more difficult to rob your place than the the average place in your area. Thieves are lazy, and they will take the easy pickings. Make it look either more dangerous or less easy to rob you, and they will go somewhere else. That said, nothing will stop someone who is more determined to have your stuff than you are to keep it - from doing whatever it takes to get it.

Know your neighbors. Get to know those who live on your block. Look out for their well being, and they will likely think well of you and look out for yours. Maintain those friendships, because the neighbors are the best security system you can have, and it's essentially free. If you don't know who lives on / regularly visits your block, how will you know when someone who doesn't belong is casing your or your neighbors place?

Same applies to garages and other outbuildings.

What police district/neighborhood are you in? What is the crime rate per 100,000 in your area? Base your security preparations on the actual risk, not your fears. Fear is irrational, and security companies use that to upsell you lots of stuff that may not be needed in your situation.

Just some food for thought.

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I use a company called NextAlarm for my monitoring. I've had them for about 3 years and they have great prices. I found out about them through the fatwallet.com forums, alot of people there switched to them. It breaks down to about $18 a month when you pay yearly. Only drawback is they only monitor and don't do installs but they do provide tech support if you are having trouble with a component of your alarm. They also have a great website where you can log in and check what time alarms were tripped, activated or deactivated (for those with kids you can tell what time they got home from school). And I have had them call me because an alarm was tripped. Turned out I accidentally tripped the alarm on my way out the house and told them not to call the police since I was only a block away.

BTW, you can probably negotiate a better price through Brinks, ADT. I had ADT and canceled their monitoring when my contract was up and went with NextAlarm. Six months later they started sending letters asking me to come back and offering to lower my monthly monitoring rate. When I left, I was paying $35/month. I negotiated it down to $25/month but still declined it.

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The guys in the building next to mine have a security camera above thier front door and a big monitor about 10ft inside, facing the door that they leave on at night so anyone that walks up to the door at night sees the lit up monitor and knows theyre already on tape. Simple yet effective

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If you are monitoring on vacation, water sensor is a nice add.

Can catch sump, ejector or failed hot water heater problems.


Smoke detector... 1 or 2 to catch the big stuff.



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Good info and advice.....only thing I would add is a big dog.
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If you are looking for monitoring of critical systems - Heat/temp, Smoke/fire, water on floor, etc. - and not a full alarm system, then you can get something called a Sensaphone. They're about $400 one-time cost and will monitor a number of inputs from sensors you connect. If one of the sensors goes into alarm for longer than you set, the unit calls up to 4 or 8 phone numbers (depending on model) and reports the alarm. I use one to monitor the house when I'm on the road. If it trips, It will call my cell, then the neighbor. You can also call in and get a status report any time.

I've used the industrial version to monitor equipment rooms, etc. for threats and perils.

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