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Lawn Mower Repair? (completed)

Anyone on the board interested in coaching me through being a little less incompetent at lawn mower repair.

My wife says I HAVE to get it fixed.... I am concerned that this is effect my sex life. HELPPPPPPP!!!!!!

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Whats busted on it??? I used to do mower/ fleet maint as a summer job in HS and still do the stuff on the side for fun

I could probably swing up to barrington on thurs evening after work

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It leaks oil... other than that, I think it is fine.

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It leaks oil... other than that, I think it is fine.
rider? walk behind? Im guessing its from a gasket on the motor, how old is it?
and when would you have time, i could swing up thurs evening after work, otherwise it will be next week like tuesday on
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Next Tuesday would be awesome, I am sure that it is something simple.

It is about 5 years old I think and it is a self-propelled walk behind.

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what brand?

Probably gonna need a scraper, general tools for the motor tear down, brake cleaner, RTV sealant or make a gasket(hi temp is prefered)

what do you have in the way of tools? compressed air? so i know what tools if any i should bring

oh, a pic of the leak would be sweet too
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what do you have in the way of tools?


First...it is way cool that your helping Brian out with his mower

Second...you must not know Brian that well...HE HAS EVERY TOOL KNOWN TO MAN!!

let me give you a little insight...I got a flat tire outside of Blackhawk and stripped the lug nut trying to get it off. I went to the track and got the following items off of Winks trailer.

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With Greg's help I managed to get to the tire off quickly and get to the track.

My guess would be that you would need to show up and only bring your knowledge of lawnmower repair.

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Tools I have, not sure if we are out of RTV, I'd have to check.

I'll try to take a look at it tonight, my biggest issue is that I need someone with some knowledge who can just look at it and me and say, "hey dummy... just replace that part." that and having someone there will force me to work on it instead of bikes all the time. My wife gets upset when I work on bikes while the mower is still broken... but hey, I need to RIDE the bike I say.... the GRASS IS LONG she says....

Reality is she is right, but I do have to go the Heartland Park this weekend....

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A wet nitrous kit will make the mower cut the grass up more, into smaller pieces, hence no raking!
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A wet nitrous kit will make the mower cut the grass up more, into smaller pieces, hence no raking!
You laugh, but here in the Redneck state, people are serious about that shit.

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ok cool, no tail bag then
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no one else is gonna partake in the hot-rodding of winks mower???
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ha... just tried starting mine up yesterday and it won't go either. no big deal since i paid $20 last year from a co-worker and it lasted all season. the thing was on its last leg when i got it. it just sucks to drop the coin to get a new one now.
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ha... just tried starting mine up yesterday and it won't go either. no big deal since i paid $20 last year from a co-worker and it lasted all season. the thing was on its last leg when i got it. it just sucks to drop the coin to get a new one now.
It's quite likely something simple like needing a new spark plug, carb cleaning, or air filter. If it has compression and isn't seized it's usually not too hard to get it running again.

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I used to work in a small engine shop. Not much can go wrong with these things unless you don't put oil in them and throw a rod or something.

Older machines might need a little cleaning of the points but new ones have a little module. All the parts are easy to replace if you have the time and a place to special order them.

Leaking oil sounds like a gasket problem. I've tried to make my own in the past and they just don't hold up. The best bet is to order replacements.

The other critical thing is carbs. If you have to run your mower with the choke on you know your going to have to replace the needle and jet soon. Not much you can do to clean it but you can try. Replacement parts are like $3.

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ha... just tried starting mine up yesterday and it won't go either. no big deal since i paid $20 last year from a co-worker and it lasted all season. the thing was on its last leg when i got it. it just sucks to drop the coin to get a new one now.


If it ran last year and doesn't this year it's bad gas and/or carb gunk.(A tablespoon of Stabil before storage goes a long way.) Turn the mower upside down and dump the gas somplace, install fresh gas. Remove plug. Clean re gap and install. (check spark while your at it) Start? No? Pull off air cleaner and squirt starting fluid in the bitch...Start and dies? Pull carb and clean.

Oh yeah, oil leak...

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stabil is a gimmick in my oppinion, ive never used it and my mower which is now at least 20 yrs old still starts no problems at the start of every season, I dont top off the tank before putting it away for the winter

dont bother wasting the time to clean spark plugs, they cost 2 dollars and the chances of getting some hard crap(abrasive blast or steel wire from the brush) into the cylinder from the cleaning process isnt worth it, least to me


I suspected either gasket, but they dont generally just go bad unless messed with, or the oil fill/dipstick tube which is generally an O-ring

Wink, you never did say where approximarely its leaking from, pics are a big help as well.

send me a pm with youl locational specifics and time which would be good

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OK, sounds like we have some experienced lawnmower/small engine guys in here and I have a question.
Since last year, my mower has done this when cold: I prime the engine by pressing the button next to the carb, starts up fine.....goes for about 10 seconds and dies. Prime it again a few times, start it and runs fine for 10 seconds than dies. The third time it starts and goes fine until I shut it off and restarts fine from that point when I empty out the bag.
It has an automatic throttle (I don't have a switch to boost the RPMs) so the only thing I have is the prime button. Its a craftsman mower, I put stabil in the tank at the end of last year, new spark plug this year and it should have gone through any old gas in the tank as I've filled it up with gas this year. Any ideas what I can try fellas?

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Abe, do you have the right weight and amount of oil in the engine?
that automatic throttle works on internal crankcase windage and are generally a pain in the ass.

try checking the airfilter, if its dirty swap it out, this can fix things on its own

try dumping in a little bit of carb/injector cleaner next time you fill it up (like 1 ounce or so will be plenty)
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I have a Craftsman 4.5 hp Eagle 1 Rear discharge walkbehind mower. It is leaking gas and or flooding the engine after running. I cleaned out the carb yesturday and ran it again. Today I look and the top of the deck is flooded with gas and the airfilter is also flooded. The float and needle seemed ok. It just started doing this this season. last year it was fine. But it is 13 years old. At this point the wife is leaning at getting a new mower. Im cheap and want to fix this one.

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Abe, do you have the right weight and amount of oil in the engine?
that automatic throttle works on internal crankcase windage and are generally a pain in the ass.

try checking the airfilter, if its dirty swap it out, this can fix things on its own

try dumping in a little bit of carb/injector cleaner next time you fill it up (like 1 ounce or so will be plenty)
I'll swap out the filter and try the carb/injector cleaner. I've been meaning to change the oil, it says SAE 30. Does that mean any 10W30, 5W30, etc should work?
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Well to jump on the bandwagon.
I have a Craftsman 4.5 hp Eagle 1 Rear discharge walkbehind mower. It is leaking gas and or flooding the engine after running. I cleaned out the carb yesturday and ran it again. Today I look and the top of the deck is flooded with gas and the airfilter is also flooded. The float and needle seemed ok. It just started doing this this season. last year it was fine. But it is 13 years old. At this point the wife is leaning at getting a new mower. Im cheap and want to fix this one.
If you haven't done so, try replacing the needle and seat. If you don't want to bother, buy an inline fuel shut-off and shut it off between uses. I have a very old Toro w/tecumseh motor. It was leaking gas between uses. I replaced the needle and seat and it still leaked, so I just installed the shut-off. Problem solved.
On the other hand, on an old Lawn-boy I had a new needle and seat fixed the leak. The needle/seat didn't look bad on either mower.

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I'll swap out the filter and try the carb/injector cleaner. I've been meaning to change the oil, it says SAE 30. Does that mean any 10W30, 5W30, etc should work?
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Use SAE30 HD detergent oil. It is available at car parts stores. 5W30 would work but the motor might use oil, and it might not protect it as well overall.

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my toro, calls for 30w oil, i dump in a mix of 5w30 adn 10w30 that i get from the drippings form when i change car oil. i change the oil yearly at the start of every mowing season and dont have a problem with consumption. pitbull is right though you should be using straight 30 weight oil if thats whats called for, im just lazy and have the oil laying around.

champ is sounds like the float isnt set up correctly or the needles are not seaing anymore, check the sealing surfaces, a hair can cause this.
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champ is sounds like the float isnt set up correctly or the needles are not seaing anymore, check the sealing surfaces, a hair can cause this.
I would put money on the needle/seat since it runs alright. If it had a bad float, it would probably run rich or very poorly.

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I would put money on the needle/seat since it runs alright. If it had a bad float, it would probably run rich or very poorly.

Will do recheck the needle and seat. I know its running really rich as a tank of gas would last an hour but now its like 30 minutes. Stop for an hour and you cant start it back up cause you have to pump the gas out of the head. Literally shooting gas out the exhaust.

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