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Anyone using them on a bike they ride often? I am not a fan of the lighting on a couple of the bikes and am considering HIDs. Are they legal anyaways? How do you like them compared to your stock lights?

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paul I have had them on my bike since i bought it. No problems at all and hiding the ballast were easy. mine just sit right between the plastics and radiator without anything holding them.

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ditto, i got em and love em. Just make sure you reaim your headlights down a bit so your not blinding people

Go with a 4300k kit, it has the best light output

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i also have them. i went with 6000k. i wanted a bit of the blueish tint to mine. still has great light output. the 4300k is the one you want that gives you the whitest light without going into a blue tint.

try a and r motorsports. they have a quality kit and their price is reasonable as well.
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anyone ever purchase HID kits from xenonlink.com?? i've also been considering getting HIDs. dont mean to thread jack paul.
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WTF?!

I was certain someone would have flamed this thread by now...

You'll blind oncoming drivers, do a proper retrofit, it's worth the time and effort. Do a search for threads by FireBreatha and you'll see what's involved.


You also might want to ask Silent about his lights, he has built in curb finders... pretty sweet.

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WTF?!

I was certain someone would have flamed this thread by now...

You'll blind oncoming drivers, do a proper retrofit, it's worth the time and effort. Do a search for threads by FireBreatha and you'll see what's involved.


You also might want to ask Silent about his lights, he has built in curb finders... pretty sweet.
My bike has projectors so there isn't any scatter to speak of and the cut off on the low beam is crisp... not blinding anyone there. The high beam? That's a diff. story, but I do mostly daytime riding, so it hasn't been a problem.

Extra visibility, FTW.

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WTF?!

I was certain someone would have flamed this thread by now...

You'll blind oncoming drivers, do a proper retrofit, it's worth the time and effort. Do a search for threads by FireBreatha and you'll see what's involved.


You also might want to ask Silent about his lights, he has built in curb finders... pretty sweet.
I definitely don't want to blind anyone, but I need more light out front. i will keep that in mind.

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I installed R6 projectors and HID's into my RR. I LOVE the HIDS. Stock lighting isn't very good, and once you go HID, you never go back. It'd be one of the first mods I do if I ever got a new bike. Here's some pics.





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Nice Mod PolishPete. I wanted to do that a while back but I hate taking my bike apart due to putting the fairings back on and the wiring. I got my Hid's ,i just need to get them installed.
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Pete, that's a sweet looking setup, do you have pics of the install process/fabrication by chance?

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I have HIDs on my bike and would never go back to halogen. Just dont fall for the 10000k etc, there is no such thing. Typically the higher the 'K' in HID kits the lower the brightness.

We all undertake a modicum of risk everytime we thumb the starter-it's just inherent to the sport.
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here are a couple pics of my HID install and setup




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WTF?!

I was certain someone would have flamed this thread by now...

You'll blind oncoming drivers, do a proper retrofit, it's worth the time and effort. Do a search for threads by FireBreatha and you'll see what's involved.


You also might want to ask Silent about his lights, he has built in curb finders... pretty sweet.


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do your research guys, I have ripped this topic a new asshole enough that you should be able to get aLL the info you can dream of in the other threads.

Do it right, Because doing wrong could be the end of you, Blinding a driver oncomming who then hits you head on is a sentance.

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You can easily adjust projectors to get best angles. Now if you have free floating lamps thats another story.

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You can easily adjust projectors to get best angles.

Theory

not all projectors are created equal.

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do your research guys, I have ripped this topic a new asshole enough that you should be able to get aLL the info you can dream of in the other threads.

Do it right, Because doing wrong could be the end of you, Blinding a driver oncomming who then hits you head on is a sentance.

that same bright ass light could possibly save your life too... where some driver may have not taken notice to you unless you had them(over halogens)




it could go either way.


get HIDs if you put them in a regular halogen housing.. AT LEAST open the housing up and paint the reflectors that are scattering light(where it doesnt need to be) FLAT black.

aim them down a tiny bit..

but like stated here.. a retrofit is the correct way to go about this.


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that same bright ass light could possibly save your life too... where some driver may have not taken notice to you unless you had them(over halogens)

get HIDs if you put them in a regular halogen housing.. AT LEAST open the housing up and paint the reflectors that are scattering light(where it doesnt need to be) FLAT black.

aim them down a tiny bit..

but like stated here.. a retrofit is the correct way to go about this.

But thats my point, HID kits are a HALF ass job, painting the housing to attempt to dim it and reflection? at that point you are putting out LESS lumens than OEM.
I have seen enough photos, analyzed installs that I will never be sold on HID Kits,

The "it" in "kit", is best used in "shit"


And no, if a driver doesnt pay attention to you with halogen they will miss you just the same with HID, the light source being a single object is what makes you hard to see.

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But thats my point, HID kits are a HALF ass job, painting the housing to attempt to dim it and reflection? at that point you are putting out LESS lumens than OEM.
I have seen enough photos, analyzed installs that I will never be sold on HID Kits,

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And no, if a driver doesnt pay attention to you with halogen they will miss you just the same with HID, the light source being a single object is what makes you hard to see.
I agree. If I didn't have projectors (not HID projectors, mind you), I would have installed some silverstar halogens or something.

I can pick out an HID light a mile away in the sea of halo's out there. It is tough to get the attention of an oblivious cager, but HIDs do catch the eye more than a standard halogen would. Ever since installing my KIT, I have noticed more and more cagers taking less risks (not left turning in front of me is one of the biggest areas of improvement, lol).

To me the risks of possibly blinding someone is outweighed by the benefit of additional light output and visibility.

Common sense would tell you that if you are blinded by an oncoming light, you don't mash the throttle and hope for the best... just the opposite - slow down and then get all pissed at the offender... but I see both sides of the argument, so I digress.

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To me the risks of possibly blinding someone is outweighed by the benefit of additional light output and visibility.

Common sense would tell you that if you are blinded by an oncoming light, you don't mash the throttle and hope for the best... just the opposite - slow down and then get all pissed at the offender... but I see both sides of the argument, so I digress.
In my opinion I disagree.


This is why kits were made illegal to install into systems not designed for them.

A person can still have blindspots after passing you and then hurt somebody in an accident because of it.

I am not talking about some bimbo not paying attention, It can happen to the best of us, it just has to be in the bad luck cards to play out as such. But it has played out as such and thats why they were made illegal.

this is the closest "projector" hid kit I could find, I dont have time to find my other photos of chity installs.








In the end, this thread is for paul, HID kits Suck ass. talk to anotherbend about a retrofit. Will cost you some $$ but when you see the difference and know that you are not mucking with anyone in the process of you riding it feels good.

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In my HID / Projector install I had to fabricate mounts to connect the projector unit into my stock housing...so I was able to play with them and angle them accordingly. I drive with my brights on too so both sides are on, I see everything clear as day, and do NOT blind anyone. Tilted and angled for the best outcome for both me and cager.

And yes, I do have pics from the install, I'll post em' up when I get a chance.
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welp, I have been hit by a left turner that "didn't see me". not saying I wouldn't have been hit with HIDs, but I feel that it would have helped.

I guess I'd rather blind someone which means that they know something is there, than to go unnoticed and become a hood ornament or worse.

Everyone I have asked about my lights (cops included) say that they are fine and stick out like a sore thumb... I always test my mods on the general public, lol... cagers' high beams blind me more than any HID has regardless if it was in a legit projector housing.

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In my HID / Projector install I had to fabricate mounts to connect the projector unit into my stock housing...so I was able to play with them and angle them accordingly. I drive with my brights on too so both sides are on, I see everything clear as day, and do NOT blind anyone. Tilted and angled for the best outcome for both me and cager.

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the way i see it.. i ride with my brights on as well an im blinding everyone anyways.. why not burn their retnas?


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But thats my point, HID kits are a HALF ass job, painting the housing to attempt to dim it and reflection? at that point you are putting out LESS lumens than OEM.
I have seen enough photos, analyzed installs that I will never be sold on HID Kits,

The "it" in "kit", is best used in "shit"


And no, if a driver doesnt pay attention to you with halogen they will miss you just the same with HID, the light source being a single object is what makes you hard to see.

i didnt mean paint the whole housing..

you understand why the light reflects up and down and everywhich way.. you can paint those panels in the reflector housing that scatter light those ways.. and not touch the ones that scatter it in the right direction. get what im sayin?


just a simple understanding... if you had 3 panels in the reflector housing.. one strait vertical.. another at a 10 deg angle down and one at 10 deg up.. the obvious idea would be ot pain the one thats reflecting the light up.. so your getting your forard light but not the glare.



beleive me im all for retros and getting projectors.. but its not AS bad as you say with a kit... my friend has a 55w 600k kit on his scion and i will drive in front of him ANY DAY of the week.. its not bad at all.. i have a ton of friends with kits and none of them have been that bad at all... not even close tot he point of blinding anyone.

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