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Not sure if a thread has been started about this... But does anyone know anything about these little cars? My biggest concern is how would these things hold up in the winter (especially with a winter like the one we just had).


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i was at a party over the weekend and one of the guests had one, I got a chance to sit in it, could have driven but passed. cool car, interior is bigger then you would think. Me (6'2, about 240 and a buddy, about 5'9 and probably 200) were sitting with our shoulders touching, but it would have worked if it had to.

she paid $18,500 for it, out the door and it had leather, 6 disk, heated seats, power windows and locks, honestly it was pretty well equipped, and with the 5 speed manual automatic (not sure what that means) it got 33 MPG with a heavy foot.

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my concern would be getting in an accident
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At that size, I am sure I could personally get out and move the car out of any snow bank .

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If you were paying 18,500 for a tin can on wheels that can only get 33 mpg I think I'd get myself a Honda civic instead and have 4 seats and a real trunk. I'd hate to get hit by a full size suv in one of those crackerjack boxes.
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After the head gasket in my civic blew, my dad was thinking about getting a small car for commuting. I though the Smart car might be a good car for that purpose. He works in Skokie and we live in Niles so its not very far of a commute. The Smart car starts out at 11K so that is pretty cheap. The real problem with this car is that it get 33MPG. Thats pretty good, but its not something that blows me away. I was expecting something like 60MPG out of that 3 cylinder 70HP engine. If it got 60MPG then it would be a perfect commuter car. Its about the same price (a little cheaper for the base) than a Yaris which gets the same fuel economy but comes with more features and it is also bigger (4 doors). At $18,000 I wouldn't even consider getting a Smart car.

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here is the one I want (busa powered)


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If you were paying 18,500 for a tin can on wheels that can only get 33 mpg I think I'd get myself a Honda civic instead and have 4 seats and a real trunk. I'd hate to get hit by a full size suv in one of those crackerjack boxes.
Only 33 My Scion XB gets 32, with me driving like an idiot, and way more functional than the Smart Car. Why did I think that thing got close to 50 I want something like the XB that gets over 50 MPG.

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Its been a few years but here is my experience with them

When they first hit north america (canada) back in 04 my boss leased one for a delivery car.


Way under powered 3 cylinder diesel. The salesman told me about 70 mpg. Not the case any more due to US emissions, I think the MPG rating is mid 30s. In the two wheel world it is comparable to a moped, way under powered but economical and reliable.

I'm 6'-6" and found the interior to be adequate. Its only a two seater and cargo space is limited, but perfect for what we used it for. Would be nice for long trips if you can pack light. But with hybrids out performing in MPG I don't see this being successful here in the states. Should end up like the PTcruiser in a few years.

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here is the one I want (busa powered)
That is pretty cool and the only way you'd be allowed to drive that thing without losing your man card.
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Since cool stuff like the old BMW Isetta pictured above, or my '67 Fiat 500 Luigi car, or something even better like the Scootacar are terribly impractical in this climate, and the New Mini Cooper is just a little too big, I wish this were available here.

Alas, all we get is the Smart Car. They were just released in Germany when I lived there, and I've always wanted one. Designed to fit 2 people and a 6 pack of beer. One of my coworkers has one on order and wont get it until mid '09. Boo.

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Doesn't it also need premium gas and it's rear wheel drive? I can't wait to see them in the snow.

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But with hybrids out performing in MPG I don't see this being successful here in the states. (drift king)
i dunno why anyone would but something that small if you just only get 33 mpg. when i buy a brand new car its def going to be a hybrid. they are proficient and i don't really need anything fast for a cage. i'm all about being green man.

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Sh!t, I think my 93' Geo got better milage than that thing. WTF happened??? We are being lied to, plain and simple.

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My Hyundai gets 37+ mpg, and I drive like an idiot. It is a manual trans, 4door, perfect little beater to get to and from work.
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If you were paying 18,500 for a tin can on wheels that can only get 33 mpg I think I'd get myself a Honda civic instead and have 4 seats and a real trunk. I'd hate to get hit by a full size suv in one of those crackerjack boxes.
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My Corolla has never been below 35mpg since I bought it and is 4k cheaper than the Smart car

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Sh!t, I think my 93' Geo got better milage than that thing. WTF happened??? We are being lied to, plain and simple.
It probably did get better mileage. Crash test standards have made cars heavier and most cars have also gotten bigger than similar models were back in the late 80's-early 90's. I have a feeling with these fuel prices they will begin to shrink again.
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That is pretty cool and the only way you'd be allowed to drive that thing without losing your man card.
and the busa motor would have to be decent on gas

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I like those cars but dang 18,500 that's too much
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Yeah, neat car, but way too much.

I paid $14,195 for my Scion xB (in 2005), and it gets 31MPG with me beating on it. Tons more room in the hatch (I moved Brianne's 90 gallon aquarium, stand and 48" light in one trip!), and can easily, and comfortably seat 4.

There are cars with better gas milage now I think though...but it's hard to beat the cargo capacity of the Scion xB

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They are like a swatch car. you can change out body panels to creat a unique color scheme. Well atleast in Germany you could. They had parking garages in Frankfurt for this car only. Could put 10,000 cars in 1 garage. They were selling it as a City car because you could park 2 cars in the same space as a standard vehicle space. I sat in one and it was remarkably roomy considering I'm 6'6". They also have a sportster model called the Smart_Roadster

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I think the european models get close to 50 MPG and have a re-flash or chip that can get it up near 60. That would be worth the 15-16 K. I believe when they introduced them over here they switched engine suppliers and began getting them from Mitsubishi.
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Yeah I couldn't care less about the crash test standards and I'd take the better gas mileage. What do I know anyways, I drive a truck that gets 14mpg.
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Friend of mine bought one; it gets delivered 3rd qtr '08. Can't wait to get behind the wheel.
I guess they are suprisingly safe, and that's good w me! It's just too bad it can't hold all my bitches and ho's.

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I see alot of them near o'hare. any smart car over 10k is not worth it. I'd give them 5k for one.
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