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Im buying gear

After the events of this weekend Ive finally gotten the push to stop being lazy/stupid and get the gear Ive been looking at and thinking about for the past few months...

I do currently ride with a helmet, jacket, gloves, and sketchers boots so im not totally unprotected but...

Im looking at getting a full Joe Rocket Alter ego setup:
2.0 Jacket
and the alter pants

They seem to be well thought out to me and with the various configuration options I think it will be comfortable that I will want to wear it no matter the weather

Oppinions on the alter ego line? how well will it hold up, I know its only got an 8" zipper attachment but since I dont plan on going to a track any time soon It would not be as big an issue. Compared to an aerostitch type of textile Im thinking that this would hold up comparitively and its actually built with a higher denier numbered material then the aerostitch full suit is.

I need better gloves and actual riding boots as well. The goves I currently have are the short non gauntlet type and I no longer feel secure in them, the boots must have hard ankle support as well wether its internal to the boot or an exterior armor/skeleton type im not as concerned about.

Im figuring Ill be spending 600+ for what I need to be buying and honestly if it goes over im not gonna lose sleep over it, I need more protection.


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Alter ego is almost as good as textile goes - with motoport, olympia and aerostich being maybe better, but all textiles are only 1 time use - leather can be reused with some luck
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If i go down im not gonna be upset about replacing it especially if it does its job, helmet is a throw away afterwards regardless so...

suggestions on boots?

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I have a textile jacket right now, the next one will be leather for sure. I guess its nice to have a good textile jacket but there leather has the best protection.

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what do you guys thing about the Vision boots by setup seen here:

newenough.com/closeouts/boots/set_up/setup_vision_motorcycle_boots.html

not having owned a part of riding boots im going on how theys look and they seem toi give sufficient protection but i dont know.

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what do you guys thing about the Vision boots by setup seen here:

newenough.com/closeouts/boots/set_up/setup_vision_motorcycle_boots.html

not having owned a part of riding boots im going on how theys look and they seem toi give sufficient protection but i dont know.
I have the setup vision boots and used them for two seasons. Never crash tested them but I like them. They are waterproof suprisingly as I have went all day in rain without any in my boot. The soles wear well and they aren't too hard and allow a lot of feel on the shift lever and pegs. I have since upgraded to Sidi Corsa Airs, but keep the setups as touring boots or when it is colder out.

I would recommend them.

And consider getting a back protector. I use the Alpinestar tech race one.
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Can the soles on boots be replaced easily/cheaply or at all?

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Ive already got a good lid,what i meant by the helmet being a throw away is that its 1 use only , it gets used for its purpose once and its usage life ends right, im upgrading everything else and keeping my helmet, the Setup brand was a venture by sidi into the value priced section of the market for every day riders.

as for a back protector, are you talking about a stand alone type, or like one of the CE approved jacket inserts?

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what do you guys thing about the Vision boots by setup seen here:

newenough.com/closeouts/boots/set_up/setup_vision_motorcycle_boots.html

not having owned a part of riding boots im going on how theys look and they seem toi give sufficient protection but i dont know.
I've got them, I don't like them. A* Super Tech FTW!
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as for a back protector, are you talking about a stand alone type, or like one of the CE approved jacket inserts?
This is what I use for a back protector, it's great for both street and track. http://www.shopabsolutecp.com/shop/p...ductId=5779558

I've not seen a CE insert for a jacket that I like, personally I'd keep it a separate item so you can swap between jackets with no worries.
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Just to add, personally I'd pickup some knee guards rather than pants, but thats just my preference. A* Bionic knee guards are great over or under pants and give full movement. They are however designed for only one crash and not so much for dragging knee. http://www.shopabsolutecp.com/shop/p...ductId=5779667
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i got this jacket off of ebay, $180 shipped...



great armor, good quality leather and oh yea, matches the F4i!!!

as for back protector, Icon Field Armor FTW!!!

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as for back protector, Icon Field Armor FTW!!!
Looks pretty decent, but it's not CE approved, whats up with that? Might have issues with some tracks due to that.
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it's not???

either way, I feel comfortable if I went down wearing it, but hopefully I'll never have to test it

PS my other jacket is a Rocket 1.5 I believe w/ matching pants... but now I wear the leather exclusively w/ the Rocket pants since the leather jacket has an 8" and wrap-around zipper, so if I end up doing a track day I'll just need to get the matching pants which are $120 shipped(or if you get w/ jacket it would be $285 shipped)

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If i go down im not gonna be upset about replacing it especially if it does its job, helmet is a throw away afterwards regardless so...

suggestions on boots?
not an aerosthtch suit!

if you go down in an aerostich suit it can be sent in to be repaired to "like new" condition, plus the offer a complete line of custom-tailored alterations for a custom fit. i have two roadcrafter suits for me and my passenger. the best investment in riding gear i have ever made.

i believe youve seen me in mine...blue w/canadian flag sewn on my vest pocket....is 6 years old and still holding up fine.


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Leather! Leather! Leather! Even the most inexpensive leather will out perform the best textile! Try Newenough.com....motorcyclecloseouts.com DO NOT BE FOOLED BY BRAND NAMES! I have a Firstgear leather jacket that I have been down in more than a couple of times, it cost me $149 at newenough, I'll most likely be buried in that jacket. I have Honda Racing leather pants, again been down a couple of time, $85.00, once again newenough. You can get Oxtar TCS boots at motorcyclecloseouts.com for as little as $99, I have 3 pairs....at that price you CAN'T LOSE! Gloves Teknic race gloves with carbon fiber protection $34. The myth that you have to spend big $$$ to get high quality stuff is nonsense, unless you are a fashionista! Shop around! Textile stuff is okay, but quality stuff is mucho denaro and are single use items. As for helmets that discussion can go on forever, any DOT approved helmet will protect you, quality helmets can be had from $99 to $600.

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Mandy and I bought leather Shift jackets this year. They seem well built, and have a nice fit. Try them on at the dealer for size and fit, then go to newenough.com or ebay. I scored my jacket for $85, Mandys was $110, shipping included, mine was worn a few times mandys was new. Both look perfect.
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JR speedmaster 5.0 gloves?, they look to be pretty well built to me, the XL size seemed to fit nicely last night when i tried em on(they were the only pair of gauntlet gloves that either Schaumburg HS or Woodfield motorsports had)

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not an aerosthtch suit!

if you go down in an aerostich suit it can be sent in to be repaired to "like new" condition, plus the offer a complete line of custom-tailored alterations for a custom fit. i have two roadcrafter suits for me and my passenger. the best investment in riding gear i have ever made.

i believe youve seen me in mine...blue w/canadian flag sewn on my vest pocket....is 6 years old and still holding up fine.


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I will second the crashability of the aerostich suit. It is very strong.

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I will second the crashability of the aerostich suit. It is very strong.
But still not allowed on the track, maybe because leather is still better?

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But still not allowed on the track, maybe because leather is still better?
Im not on the track and the versatility for comfort is important to me

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Me and my girlfriend have the Alterego jackets from Joe Rocket, great street jackets. Good from 35 degrees to 100 degrees (with some obvious layering and extras). The end of my zipper broke on my jacket, most because I yanked it the wrong way, but still I think it could have been tougher. This was the zipper that takes off a sleeve portion, not a main zipper.

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Me and my girlfriend have the Alterego jackets from Joe Rocket, great street jackets. Good from 35 degrees to 100 degrees (with some obvious layering and extras). The end of my zipper broke on my jacket, most because I yanked it the wrong way, but still I think it could have been tougher. This was the zipper that takes off a sleeve portion, not a main zipper.
the pulltab broke off or the actual zipper slider?

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The alter ego look sweet.

I have always been impressed with every thing I have gotten from Joe Rocket. Except for the shorty gloves I got last, the wernt very comfortable, but they held up pretty well. I have been using my JoeRocket ballistic overpants for almost 5years now. I'm happy with them for what they are.

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I will second the crashability of the aerostich suit. It is very strong.
Sorry 'Stichs are over rated and over price And NOT waterproof...ask any 'Stich owner about the infamous "wet crotch" after riding in the rain for multiple hours, and I mean rain, not the occasional sprinkle. As Kegger stated, not allowed on the track....you can show up and do track days with a $150 one piece Shift leather suit tho.....that should speak volumes to you.

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The alter ego look sweet.

I have always been impressed with every thing I have gotten from Joe Rocket. Except for the shorty gloves I got last, the wernt very comfortable, but they held up pretty well. I have been using my JoeRocket ballistic overpants for almost 5years now. I'm happy with them for what they are.

Ive got a set of the JR short gloves as well, and lately they have been bother the hell out of my left thumb, the seam at the tip gets uner my thumb nail and works at seperating the nail from the skin, gets annoying after a few hours

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Im not on the track and the versatility for comfort is important to me
Comfort is open to interpretation, I am more comfortable sweating a bit, knowing that WHEN i do have a getoff, my skin has a better chance of still being where it was when I took a shower earlier that day.

I like my skin just the way it is.

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