My biggest complain with the site as of late is the constant threads about gear. The constant threads about blue and white gixxers. The constant threads about SOW idiots.
First off, there is no helmet law in Illlinois. END OF FUCKING STORY!
Second, the motorcycle community is about counterculture and expression. If you can't deal with something different, something new, then go buy a set of Callaways and hit the country club.
Third, those SOW idiots were you just 10 or 20 or 30 years ago. In addition, we have some longtime, respected members who fit the profile of a SOW idiot, so just shut it about all that shit.
You guys sound like pretention little girls when you bitch about the above.
1st off thank you for talking back and forth about some of these issues and others.
as you can see ive been up since 7am working and then still on CLSB and i have had my dick knocked into the dirt on here for all i do.
but i understand what you mean and how you mean it thought your style of putting it WSE
i admit and ill use myself as example, after awhile i have done so much that i have grown tired of squids myself. which i don't go out there as much anymore hitting them upside the head trying to get them to calm down and get to the right place. i feel back then and even now those that grown past the animosity of hating my speeches of safety have grown to preach it for the betterment of others.
while it might work in the long run. it doesnt help the morality of the issue at hand at that time.
still to this day i remember the rolling of eyes. the cringe of "oh god not again"
so i eased up. but year after year with CLSB doors being open and the influx of new members. you see this will never go away.
old timers get tired. new comers get screwed if i dont continue this constant update of information.
the biggest thing i see reall at hand is. the older members know. they know me and how the site works and what its for. and after a while us long time members are having so much fun with each other that each time these things happens.
"and ill be frank"
newbies wadding it up, and we tell them gear up, you should have started on a smaller bike etc and all the good stuff.
the older members are like OH GOD i lived through this already. shut it already.
then we have older members trying to help new members/new riders and the "balance" of fun and education is a line that gets heated.
this will always happen while our doors ARE open.
i never want to close them. me and tony and so many others want to help new people.
so where is the balance? what solution can you offer to off set this?
do you agree this is 1 of the biggest issues we have.
forget about going off for going off sakes and totally having a shit talking fest cause lord knows we have had those. but i feel and its proven now for a fact.
when given the opportunity to slam people any way in any manner. that line continues to be crossed in other aspects and people/members we deal with.
dont you agree? if you do. then what do we do. make a total flame fest forum?
if you say yes, years ago we thought about this and we agreed, there is no way for people to control 1 side of them in a certain area, then act normal in another.
the temptation and deviant nature will eventually get out of that secluded area.
think i am wrong? then look at some other sites that are the premise for there
i am not trying to stroke my own ego. its proven. people have left for certain reasons that they didnt agree with. and as they grow they replicate what CLSB is and stands for "which is good" but there comes a time when fun and games are over and there is other people to consider and bring awareness to them.
thats what we stand for, or I and tony.
i am trying to find a balance. if i didnt.
i would have banned 25 trouble makers. small % to loose would you agree out of 6000.
maybe it puts it in effect just how much you guys mean to us.
if you didnt me and tony would have pulled the plug years ago.
please continue to discuss. just offer solutions please to your issues that you see will work for the benefit of all.
there is always going to be stupid ass quirks. but when you have a major issues that a ton of people are on the same path on. then we CAN address them with adult conversations. and level heads.
cause god knows i can be a cock sucker if i am pushed to far just like anyone else.
its just that i shouldn't! because there is so many people that follow me, that they relay on me to be this way cause i am there protector.