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A friend of mine is thinking about buying on of these. Probably a pre-owned 2006-2007.

Her main thing she wants to know is how it is to maintian. if its costly, etc

im not really sure what im asking here. just if you know about this vehicle, give me your advice.

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yes its costly even the oil changes are like 60-80 bucks.

but she is guaranteed to pick men up so, its a win win situation.



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i know BMW offers a maintenance plan when u purchase it new. i would assume that if the previous owner got one of those, she should be covered for a couple of yrs.
otherwise it gets pretty pricey to tgake it to the stealership!

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all maintenence will be free through the first five years, since the originally purchase date.
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yes its costly even the oil changes are like 60-80 bucks.

but she is guaranteed to pick men up so, its a win win situation.
You can change your own oil (or bribe a friend), its an easy enough job. The problem comes when you need parts, they are expensive for German cars.

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maint will be pricey its a bmw

feeding it wont be cheap either

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Not bad vehicles but I think they're kind of silly and wouldn't buy one. The 2.5l engine is anemic for this platform so tell him/her to get the 3.0l. They're small too, I'd pick up a Mariner hybrid before I dropped the change on a used X3.

If he/she wants something bigger, I have a lead on a BEAUTIFUL Euro Spec (as in picked up and driven across Europe before being shipped here) Volvo XC90 V8, has 315 hp and still gets 26 mpg on the highway. 14,500 miles, every option except rear seat DVD player and asking price is $40,000. Let me know if you want more details.

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Is it CPO....Certified Pre-Owned? That's the only way I would own a pre-owned BMW. You can also buy an extended warranty and/or maintenance plan. On the latter, be sure to check the intervals because if its anything like mine, oil changes are 15,000 miles apart. Its not worth it to me.

Ken;s right on the oil change, brake jobs are a couple thousand...they wont cut rotors. Just imagine what replacing a fuel pump or computer would cost.
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Is it CPO....Certified Pre-Owned? That's the only way I would own a pre-owned BMW. You can also buy an extended warranty and/or maintenance plan. On the latter, be sure to check the intervals because if its anything like mine, oil changes are 15,000 miles apart. Its not worth it to me.

Ken;s right on the oil change, brake jobs are a couple thousand...they wont cut rotors. Just imagine what replacing a fuel pump or computer would cost.
The 07' is probably too new to be a cer pre own, the dealer would just sell it with the original warranty and maint plan.

A cert goes out to six years, 100,000 miles.
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yes its costly even the oil changes are like 60-80 bucks.

but she is guaranteed to pick men up so, its a win win situation.
This is somewhat true, but not the whole story. Oil changes can run up to 90 bucks, but they run on full synthetic and only needs to be changed every 7.5-10K miles. They can run up to 15K, but it's suggested to change around the before mentioned interval. So if you think about it, about 3 times as long as a regular car between changes. This equates to about 30 bucks every 3k miles, not too much different than other cars.

As for the extended warantee, I'm not sure. My car is over 100K and is a 2002(540i) so I missed out all that. I do know parts are a little spendier, but the BMW vehicles are very high quality. I've had to put some money into mine (alternator, thermostat, coolant reservoir, door lock actuator), but I wouldn't give it up. So much fun to drive!
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maint will be pricey its a bmw

feeding it wont be cheap either
Maintenance will cost him nothing for at least four years. When out of the plan an oil change is close to $100 but they do it every 12k miles. I will always get rid of my BMW's shortly after the maintenance plan ends. I have until summer of 2010 on my current one.

Here is my 2 cents. The X5 is a nicer ride and you can get an 05' with full warranty and maintenance to 100k for about 35k. To qualify for a certified pre-owned the used vehicle must meet a certain level of quality.

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The X3 is not worth the $$, IMO.
A loaded Ford Escape would cost much less, and basically serve the same purpose.

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The X3 is not worth the $$, IMO.
A loaded Ford Escape would cost much less, and basically serve the same purpose.

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I agree, but there are alot of people who want a BMW. Do you think that a majority of Jeep owners offroad? What about Hummer owners? I think its more of an image thing than anything else. To each his (or her) own though.

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I agree, but there are alot of people who want a BMW. Do you think that a majority of Jeep owners offroad? What about Hummer owners? I think its more of an image thing than anything else. To each his (or her) own though.
I agree, the Escape doesn't have the same 'poser factor'.

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If you really wanted to be a poser, I think you would get a Hummer. The H2 can go over a 16 in wall or something like that.

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I would like a turbo for my six series..
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I would like a turbo for my six series..
Get two, all the cool kids are doing it.

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A few clarifcations...

-Its 4 years or 50,000 miles of their Ultimate Service Plan that is free when purchased new. It does transfer over to a new owner.
-In the case of oil changes, you get a free one annually or at 15,000 whichever comes first.
-Warranty is not the same as the free service plan; both are 4/50,000
-Thr 6 year/100,000 is not additional; it starts from when the vehicle was in service. From bmwusa.com

Protection Plan provides coverage for 2 years or 50,000 miles (whichever comes first) from the date of the expiration of the 4-year/50,000-mile BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty

BTW...there are some deals going on right now for CPO X3s with 2.9% financing.
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maybe it's a better deal for two...
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A few clarifcations...

-Its 4 years or 50,000 miles of their Ultimate Service Plan that is free when purchased new. It does transfer over to a new owner.
-In the case of oil changes, you get a free one annually or at 15,000 whichever comes first.
-Warranty is not the same as the free service plan; both are 4/50,000
-Thr 6 year/100,000 is not additional; it starts from when the vehicle was in service. From bmwusa.com

Protection Plan provides coverage for 2 years or 50,000 miles (whichever comes first) from the date of the expiration of the 4-year/50,000-mile BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty

BTW...there are some deals going on right now for CPO X3s with 2.9% financing.
This is all correct but I have different info from the dealer on service plan transfers. They said any service plan stays with the vehicle. If I sell my car to a private party, they get the service plan.

I have also never come across a recently used vehicle (3 years or less) sold by a BMW dealer without some type of maitenance plan in place. Most dealers on cetified pre-owned only extend the warranty to 6 years, 100k. This is because it is still covered under the original 4 year plan. The maintenance plan is an extra 2k.
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wow thanks for all the quick posts.

let me give you a little more info to answer some questions that have been posted.

her current vehicle is a 97 jeep cherokee country. she bought it brand new. she still actually loves it and its in good shape but its getting old and over 200k miles. she keeps a vehicle for a long time and takes very good care of them. she's a maintenance freak. she is having trouble finding a new vehicle to replace it that she'll be happy with. her jeep has done her very well. she likes the sizing of her jeep so she's looking for something like that. acura mdx = too big. rdx she really likes. x5 = too big. x3 she likes. ford edge = too big, new excape she likes but she thinks it looks cheap. she likes the bmw image. she's not hurting for money but she doesnt like wasting it. if she thinks it will make her happy she's not afraid to spend $$.

aside from anything covered at the stealership...anything done on it would be done at my brothers auto repair shop...and get the parts for cost, etc. she said the one she was looking at was covered to 50k.

thanks for all the advice. later today ill let her read this thread and this may help her.

she's been putting off buying a new vehicle for a long time and now she's getting pretty antsy.

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Huh? I never said it did not transfer. You are just reiteratng what I said above.

Sounds like you spent 2Gs on an extended service plan for beyond the free one. You do know you can purchase that same plan for the same price at anytime in the next 4 years? I chose to hold onto my money and re-evaluate at 3 years.

Dont we all sound like a bunch of BMW assholes?
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I would not pick an X3 if I expected to hold it until 200k miles. Get the RDX.
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+1, why not just get the RDX. Its not cheap like the Ford, but it will still be pretty reliable.

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+1, why not just get the RDX. Its not cheap like the Ford, but it will still be pretty reliable.
she really likes it for what it is but shes not completely happy with the looks of it. we have looked into the upgraded front and rear bumper options and it makes it a little more to her liking but she says she isnt in love with it. i think she's in love with the x3 because its a "bmw".

im not sure she intends on keeping this vehicle for as long as she kept the last one. but this is good info she should know before purchasing.

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Huh? I never said it did not transfer. You are just reiteratng what I said above.

Sounds like you spent 2Gs on an extended service plan for beyond the free one. You do know you can purchase that same plan for the same price at anytime in the next 4 years? I chose to hold onto my money and re-evaluate at 3 years.

Dont we all sound like a bunch of BMW assholes?
You're right, I read your post wrong. The dealer threw in the extend maintenance plan but it is about 2k whenever you decide to purchase it during your initial four years. Also, during the extended period some repairs may cost a minor deductible ($50).

I would not buy it if she is planning on keeping it 10 years and lean towards the jap imports.
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she just said that would be like telling me to ride a ninja 250

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