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GPS Gurus, Question!

So my birthday is coming up in a couple months, and I usually buy myself the best birthday presents.

I'm thinking about getting a GPS, but I really know nothing about GPS units. I've been avoiding them for the most part, as I'm pretty good without one. But it's a neat geek toy that I wouldn't mind having on the bike and car.

My questions. Does a good GPS like the Zumo also work "off road"? Or do I have to get more of a hiking specific GPS if I'm trying to track hikes, walks, or do GeoCaching?

With the Zumo, am I paying that huge price because it's a water resistant unit? Or are there other features that really make it worth the cash over using a more inexpensive automotive unit on my bike?

Are there any other motorcycle specific units that I should consider?

I'm trying to find reviews on this stuff to try and research and figure these questions out, but it seems most of the reviews I'm finding are half-assed user reviews and they clearly don't know much more than I do...

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I've had a GPS on my bike for 6 or 7 years. Check out these units. The 276 color map is about as good as it gets if you don't go with the ZUMO.

Hell, you would be fine with just about any of the smaller and inexpensive Garmin units.

http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/...p-1-c-261.html

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The Zumo is not ideal for hiking as its is a little bulky and the battery life is good for a handful of hours at best.

Its the best motorcycle GPS out there IMO and its a good automotive one. If you need both, there is no better combo IMO>
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http://www.experiencenavigon.com/

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the zumo has a brighter screen, is water resistant, etc. THe automotive units often times will get washed out in direct sunlight. I have a garmin in my car, and am very happy with it.

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I have a Zumo (although it is still sitting brand new in the box.. so I can't speak from much experience on it)

I debated it and the TomTom Rider 2...
Pretty happy with my Tom Tom Go 920...
In the end.. went with the zumo
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299641

Like Kruz said.. I don't think any of the car ones would be very good for hiking.. I think they rate them at a 4 hr battery.. Which.. Is kind of weak..

Are you looking for A GPS for directions on the walk or Geocaching? or.. geotagging photos.. or just keeping track of your tracks?

The nicer ones that provide directions will most likely do all of what you want.. On the other end there are some tiny little things (I have a Sony CS1 ,.. I have used it for geotagging photos.. but it's a bit of a pita.. and.. not really all that accurate...)
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/...h-sony-gps-cs1

I bought my buddy a Garmin Forerunner 305 for his birthday... That would probably fit that bill even better...
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=349

or if you want to spent a few extra bucks
the 405 is much smaller
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=142&pID=11039

obviously you can do better pricing than garmin.com...
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this is by far the way to go:
Infinite battery life
waterproof
zero power on wait time

http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/...S-p-17418.html

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I don't think you are going to find one that is good for hiking and driving/riding. Zumo is the best of the bike/car (if you don't factor in the price). You can use it off road on a dirt bike/trail bike because it is rugged and water proof. Also the controls are all on the left which is ideal for bikes.

For hiking, you can find some very good inexpensive ones.

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I have a Zumo (although it is still sitting brand new in the box.. so I can't speak from much experience on it)

I debated it and the TomTom Rider 2...
Pretty happy with my Tom Tom Go 920...
In the end.. went with the zumo
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299641

Like Kruz said.. I don't think any of the car ones would be very good for hiking.. I think they rate them at a 4 hr battery.. Which.. Is kind of weak..

Are you looking for A GPS for directions on the walk or Geocaching? or.. geotagging photos.. or just keeping track of your tracks?

The nicer ones that provide directions will most likely do all of what you want.. On the other end there are some tiny little things (I have a Sony CS1 ,.. I have used it for geotagging photos.. but it's a bit of a pita.. and.. not really all that accurate...)
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/...h-sony-gps-cs1

I bought my buddy a Garmin Forerunner 305 for his birthday... That would probably fit that bill even better...
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=349

or if you want to spent a few extra bucks
the 405 is much smaller
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=142&pID=11039

obviously you can do better pricing than garmin.com...
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http://www.experiencenavigon.com/

Not motorcycle specific, but damn good units for the $$$...
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I don't think you are going to find one that is good for hiking and driving/riding. Zumo is the best of the bike/car (if you don't factor in the price). You can use it off road on a dirt bike/trail bike because it is rugged and water proof. Also the controls are all on the left which is ideal for bikes.

For hiking, you can find some very good inexpensive ones.
Thanks for the info guys...that clears up some things I knew nothing about.

Honestly, I'm not sure exactly what I want the GPS for. I'm not sure what all I *could* use it for since I've never owned one or felt I needed one, so I'm not sure what I'm missing.

The only time I've ever used a GPS in the past, was when I was WarDriving with my laptop. And all that did was put a GPS coordinate to where the WiFi was found...it didn't do any mapping or anything else.

I totally forgot the D300 can tie GPS coordinates to photos. I don't do landscape shooting much, but it might be fun to have that extra info on all my photography.

I definintely want to try GeoCashing. It might be a fun side activity for when I'm looking to do some long motorcycle rides and just get out some.

My goals are bascially to get out more, get out of the fixed box of Chicago suburbs that I can for the most part navigate without hardly trying, and do some fun activities. I'd be using it on the Motorbike, the Scion, and probably get a seperate unit for hiking/walking/Geocaching.

KG, I'll check out that brand that you be pimpin. Thanks for the link! (any "friend discounts"?)

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Zumo FTW!

I was turned-onto the Zumo and this thing rocks!
A bit bulky but vibration/water/weather proof +
*Load it with your favorite mp3 tunes, some earbuds (skull candy) and you'll have music for rides
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It's a bit pricey but it does alot (takes the clutter away from having separate satellite radio unit, Mp3 player, traffic advisory unit, phone (while your BT phone is tucked away somewhere safe or still on your hip) but most importantly a gps. Loaded with your route, you will know where you're going. In case of separation from the group (or an unplanned stop bya local LEO ), you can find a short cut to head them off and wait.
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I totally forgot the D300 can tie GPS coordinates to photos. I don't do landscape shooting much, but it might be fun to have that extra info on all my photography.

My plan with it... and I never fully got it down...
Was.. Say your taking photos at Road America.. I wanted to be able to zoom down on a google map and view what photos were taken on what corner.. I think it would just bring the photos a bit closer to reality...

It's also kind of neat when you upload and link to google maps to start seeing little flags pop up all over the world where you have taken photos...
click a flag and it zooms down to where the photo was shot.. so you get this top down view of where you were when you took it.. I am not sure that is as fascinating as I think it is.. but.. I think it's quite fascinating

I think for the d300 you need a special cable and or gps and it can be actually mounted to the camera (i know thats how the d200 did it...) D300 has probably simplified/stepped it up a notch.. sadly the only time I have had one in my hands was in a store... My bro in law might get one.. I was trying to talk him into the D3.. but he is cheap ... the D700 however... He came over talking about the other day.. So.. Maybe I'll get to play with that a bit in the near future.
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Wow, awesome stuff! Now I want the Zumo for sure.

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Eric,

Check these out (for cam - probably no good for anything else)
http://www.stockholmviews.com/diypho...kon_mc-35.html
http://www.dawntech.hk/di-GPS/n2.htm
http://www.foolography.com/unleashedxmas.php
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What ever gps you get, make sure you can do multipoint custom routes - that is design a route on the pc and upload it to the gps to have it guide you. Gpx, which is the gps exchange format is a standard used by many for route sharing. If the garmin unit supports custom routes it supports this format, not sure about other brands supporting this format. Very helpful when you want to share routes with others.

Most of the better garmin units have a tracking capability - they record where you've been. Assuming the time on your camera is accurate, you can match up the track point at a given time with the pic time stamp to determine location.

The zumo has it all out of the box. You pay a premium for this. The nuvi 7xx/8xx/5000 (and now possibly 500, but not familiar with it), has most of the zumo features, but not all. Wish the zumo had a larger screen too. You get what you pay for
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Yeah, the screen on the Zumo is a bummer, which is why I was curious if I should just get an automotive unit and hope I don't get caught in the rain (which is how I lost my last cell phone)

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garmin has a water proof unit for $500. Believe it is the nuvi 500. I am more concerned about the vibrations on the bike then the rain. You can always take it off for the wet stuff and put back on later.
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I bought a zumo 550 last week (from buydig.com) and the price shock wore off a bit after I started digging through the box and started toying with it. It came with a suction cup mount for the car + cig lighter adapter, RAM bar mount for the bike with fused leads to tie into the battery, and an ac adapter. I paired it to the phone and was able to drill into my phone call history (calls made, received, and missed) as well as the contact list. I even took a cruise a few nights ago with some mp3s on the SD card and it was so nice.

And something that I rigged up that was really nice in case I want to ride while i'm on call and I don't hear the SMS/email on the blackberry. I set up a computer running asterisk and if it receives an email (ie, to page me), it'll call my phone every minute until i pickup, just to notify me that I have email/text message waiting for me. So, no more paranoia about missing a page. Now I just need the zumo to plot me a chart to the nearest coffeeshop when I get paged so I can sit down the with the laptop!

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That last part with the E-mail waiting is perfect! I'm on call a lot as well (though I almost never get called), and I worry about putting my blackberry in the tank bag and forgetting about it till the end of the night (or the weekend!)

You guys are great! I've gleaned more information from this thread than I have from reading several reviews and online guides of this gear, thanks!

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I've got a zumo 550, blackberry and autocom hooked up among other things. Its a very sweet if not a expensive setup. The zumo and blackberry's get along very well. If you really want some gps opinions check out the laying down tracks section on advrider.com . No offense to anyone on here but the guys over there are very much into gps's, making them motorcycle friendly and using them offroad http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37

If you want a decent hand held unit for hiking, and for road use with all the motorcycle mounts and stuff the 60csx is popular (around 300ish dollars)
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=310

Always price up the following options when considering:
Power cables, mapping software, mounts/cradles

The zumo handles basic offroad, but a unit like the 60csx is much better if you ride trails/etc. I prefer the zumo for advanced connectivity (bluetooth connections to phone and helmet, music, XM/traffic), the fact that its moto hardened, easy to operate one handed, on the fly route changes, and has a screen that does not get washed out in the sun. Other units can be adapted to (nuvi series especially) but if you tour in all weather its a pain to take down your gps because it might rain.

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I'm still rockin with my 2610, I switch the unit between cars and bike, the screen does get washed out in the bright noon day sun, but it is rugged...bike, 2610 and myself did a header at @70 in MO, the 2610 didn't even hiccup. And it's been thru many build an Ark type storms. You can find refurb units for @$179. It is not meant for hiking, no internal battery, but there are many problems with units with internal batteries. For hiking I have an ancient Magellan 2000, that I bought in 1994. I still use it on hunting trips. I also have a Mio, that can be used for hiking. Zumo is a great unit, but overpriced Sorry, I don't need a mp3 player, nor xm weather, nor traffic all that does is add cost to the unit.

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garmin has a water proof unit for $500. Believe it is the nuvi 500. I am more concerned about the vibrations on the bike then the rain. You can always take it off for the wet stuff and put back on later.
Just my thoughts
Units are NOT waterproof....means they could function underwater, they are water resistant! From the Garmin website

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Units that are waterproof meet the IPX7 standards, which means the GPS case can withstand accidental immersion in one meter of water for up to 30 minutes.

The depth of one meter refers to the pressure at this depth. If you fall into water with your GPS unit with force, your unit may hit the water at a pressure equivalent to a pressure found at depths lower than one meter. This could cause water damage.

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