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Traveling to Canada with a record?

Anyone have any input on getting accross the boarder to the North with a criminal record? Do you need extra documentation? Is it even posible to get in to Canada? Has anyone been turned back when trying to get into Canada? I'm only interested in how this relates to land travel.

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I don't believe they do background checks on crossing, just look at the passport and wave through, unless something is suspicious to cause a more thorough investigation..
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Land crossing is much easier than via air. Where are you croosing the border? Detroit/London sux.

Make sure you have your passport, generally they will let ya fly right in. I suppose it depends on the severity of the criminal offense. For ex: a friend of mine in Toronto cannot get into the US even for vacation because of his record which includes drugs. Canada is pretty slack though...

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I was turned away...but then I was 16, on a bicycle, and just rode with a group of 30+ from Chicago up through Wisconson only to be turned away for not having proper documentation. (I didn't have a drivers license yet)

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Land crossing is much easier than via air. Where are you croosing the border? Detroit/London sux.

Make sure you have your passport, generally they will let ya fly right in. I suppose it depends on the severity of the criminal offense. For ex: a friend of mine in Toronto cannot get into the US even for vacation because of his record which includes drugs. Canada is pretty slack though...
Why do you assume I'm refering to myself?

We're driving to International Falls and crossing there. Then driving another 6 hours or so (maybe more, never been there) to Red Lake, ON. Catching a sea plane there and flying to the cabin. My only concern is getting turned away at the boarder and having 9 other guys be pissed that I can't go. How would I get home, who's gonna pay my part of the trip, etc...

From what I've read, they can turn you away for ANYTHING. Wreckless driving, drug charges, DUI/DWI, assult, etc. But it does say something about convictions. Is it only limited to convictions? Or any charges in general?? I just don't want to get there and have to walk home!!

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Normally, they wave you thru. However, I have been asked to drive to the side office where they took a detail look of my IDs and stuff. I had a record, but it was 8 years ago at the time and they still let me pass. (All in half an hour). It was thru Detroit/Windsor
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Ha Ha didn't mean to point the finger at you LOL...

International falls isn't that bad, it's really touristy and I remember busy. When they ask why you're crossing just tell them vacation, they may just let you through without hassle. (They just scan passports now, no more tying everything in lol) Now if more than one person has a record.... that might pose a problem.

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Are you still on probation or parole? You have to have your judge or the prosecuting jurisdiction sign off on that.

Otherwise, I had no problems leaving the country.
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Are you still on probation or parole? You have to have your judge or the prosecuting jurisdiction sign off on that.

Otherwise, I had no problems leaving the country.
No, it was like 7 years ago. I have left the country since then, and didn't have a problem getting out. I think it's more of an issue with the crazy canucks not letting us in.

I do have my passport with current picture and current DL (within two years) I don't think I'll have a problem. I just don't want to end up in an embarassing situation. It would be different if it was just me driving up there and trying to cross the boarder, but to have 9 others counting on everyone getting through... Is there a number I can call to talk to someone at the boarder patrol office or whatever it's called, and have them run me through a "trial" checkpoint?? I dunno, I'm just trying to get some peace of mind before I head up there in 2 weeks.

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Yea, bend over, and take one for the team.

Actually, the topic won't even come up ... the only way they will know is if they happen to do a scan of your license plate and that plate is somehow tied to a criminal record somehow, but I don't see how. Last time I rode thru Canada, I mistakenly gave them the wrong plate # and they waved me thru anyway.

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me and mopar got a nice serch and some questioning from the border guards on both sides when we went to canada. they searched his truck, but did not find the knife LOL.

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My colleague was refused entry to Canada last year because he has DUI on his record. Canada, Australia and UK are big on DUI.
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i've driven to canada twice, once in 06 and once this year. Both times there were hardly any issues. me and a buddy both with passports. first time crossing into canada in 06 it was about 4am and 3 border dudes (acutally 2 were chicks) completely searched the car and all of it's contents. on the way back in to the US, the guy asked me to open the trunk, he looked in there and that was it. This year there was none of that, in or out. Looked at passports, asked purpose of trip, where you staying, etc etc and right on through, in and out.

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My colleague was refused entry to Canada last year because he has DUI on his record. Canada, Australia and UK are big on DUI.

What did they tell him? How log ago was his conviction? Was he flying? Was he actually convicted?

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I have family who live in Red Lake!! Off Topic sorry!
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What did they tell him? How log ago was his conviction? Was he flying? Was he actually convicted?
They told him that sorry we can not let anybody in with a DUI conviction on their record. That's actually what the custom/immigration people are looking for when they scan your passport. Yes we were flying, he was my co-pilot so my previous airline had to flew another pilot to cover his flight the following day. His conviction was 12 years ago.
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Members of Inadmissible Classes include those who have been convicted of MINOR OFFENCES (including shoplifting, theft, assault, dangerous driving, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of illegal substances, etc.), or of INDICTABLE CRIMINAL OFFENCES (including assault with a deadly weapon, manslaughter, etc.). As well, those who have been convicted of DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED (DWI) are considered Members of an Inadmissible Class. Driving while under the influence of alcohol is regarded as an extremely serious offence in Canada.

Those who have received TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS (including parking/speeding tickets, etc.) and other minor violations (i.e. littering, etc.) most likely will NOT be prohibited from entering Canada. Similarly, those who have JUVENILE CONVICTIONS (convictions for crimes committed while under age 18) most likely will NOT be prohibited from entering Canada unless they could have been tried as an adult for their offences.

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Those who have been convicted of an offence OUTSIDE CANADA, and have had 5 years elapse since the termination of the custodial portion (if any) of the sentence imposed (not the sentence served), may apply for a Minister's APPROVAL OF REHABILITATION. The Minister's Approval will permanently remove the inadmissibility caused by conviction.

If less than 5 years have elapsed, or if persons are only seeking entry to Canada for a single or limited period, then they may apply for a TEMPORARY RESIDENT PERMIT.
They seem mostly concerned about convictions, not arrests, which makes sense (technically you can be arrested without actually having committed a crime, after all).

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I was just up there two weeks ago. no passport, and was waved through. cross at the FALLS, they did not check anyone.
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I have family who live in Red Lake!! Off Topic sorry!
That's where I'm going, actually! Small world.

Thanks for the info. I guess I'll go and try and wing it. Who's up for a road trip to come get me if they don't let me in??


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Ok i need to ask are you 9 guys going in a charter bus? or driving personal cars. just pull up to the boarder answer the questions and show them what they ask for and don't give anymore information then asked. they don't run a CQH on people it would take forever to read it all and determine yes or no.

Again if your not asked anything then don't give out anything that's not needed

Stop worrying and go on your trip.

Your not wanted and your not a fugitive so your fine

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Ok i need to ask are you 9 guys going in a charter bus? or driving personal cars.
We're taking two vans.

The only reason I'm worried about the trip is because of things I read online such as this taken from http://www.seattle-duiattorney.com/dui/canada.php

"The Canadian Government will prevent certain non-Canadian citizens from entering Canada. These individuals are members of an Inadmissible Classes. The Inadmissible status prohibits an individual from entering Canada and remaining within their borders. People often confuse this concept. They believe they can enter Canada as long as they are not driving their vehicle. That is incorrect. Having Inadmissible status means you cannot go to Canada.

Some criminal convictions will prevent a non-Canadian citizen from crossing the border into Canada. Minor offenses like shoplifting, theft, possession of illegal substances, and unauthorized possession of a firearm will prevent entry. Felony criminal convictions will also deny entry into Canada."


I just don't want to get there and be stuck for 8 or 9 hours waiting for someone to pick me up while my friends go fishing!

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We're taking two vans.

The only reason I'm worried about the trip is because of things I read online such as this taken from http://www.seattle-duiattorney.com/dui/canada.php

"The Canadian Government will prevent certain non-Canadian citizens from entering Canada. These individuals are members of an Inadmissible Classes. The Inadmissible status prohibits an individual from entering Canada and remaining within their borders. People often confuse this concept. They believe they can enter Canada as long as they are not driving their vehicle. That is incorrect. Having Inadmissible status means you cannot go to Canada.

Some criminal convictions will prevent a non-Canadian citizen from crossing the border into Canada. Minor offenses like shoplifting, theft, possession of illegal substances, and unauthorized possession of a firearm will prevent entry. Felony criminal convictions will also deny entry into Canada."


I just don't want to get there and be stuck for 8 or 9 hours waiting for someone to pick me up while my friends go fishing!

again your driving they do not do CRIMINAL history checks it would take to long as their system has to send a request to the US then to ncic and wait for a return, it could take hours or days. a criminal history can not be requested unless you are detained for a crime or are involved with a crime that is being investigated and they have to provide a reason for the request. The same as any us law enforcement agency you need a reason to run Canadian plates.

I wanna say that information up there is more geared for travels by air who have to go through customs who actually run your pass port to see if you come up on a terrorist watch list, are a fugitive, or wanted which would be placed on their by the country that is looking for you

Enjoy fishing buddy don't worry about it

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That's where I'm going, actually! Small world.

Thanks for the info. I guess I'll go and try and wing it. Who's up for a road trip to come get me if they don't let me in??

When are you heading up there? I know they got a huge fishing tourney going on this weekend! I haven't been up there since I was kid can't wait to go back!! I wouldn't worry to much about not getting across my family goes all the time with no problems!!
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My colleague was refused entry to Canada last year because he has DUI on his record. Canada, Australia and UK are big on DUI.
+1 My cousin has to pay a "fine" every time he goes to Canada because of this. He is a musician and they travel into Canada several times a year.

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When are you heading up there? I know they got a huge fishing tourney going on this weekend! I haven't been up there since I was kid can't wait to go back!! I wouldn't worry to much about not getting across my family goes all the time with no problems!!
A fishing tournament??? Aw darn! Wish I could go, but I already have plans to attend the Paint Drying Convention in Butte Montana that weekend, and the Grass Growing symposium the following weekend.

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