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Tripping traffic light sensors (the kind that tell the light someone is waiting)

Okay so I've had several instances where I'm sitting on the sensor pad for three light cycles and I don't get a green, then a car will pull up, I'll roll forward and motion for them to come forward a bit more, then BAM the light turns for us... Does anyone have tricks or tips on tripping these damn things so the system knows I'm there waiting for the light to turn green?
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Happens to me all the time. When it does, I make a right turn at the intersection, then say "whoops" really loud, make a U'ey, then turn right again at the intersection I was at.

It's an honest mistake officer, I just went the wrong way.

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Yeah but what if you meant to turn left ;-)
Right - WHOOPS - U - Right - WHOOPS - U - Right...
by that time, of course, a car has come along, tripped the sensor you had been waiting at for 20 minutes, and pulled in ahead of you ;-)
This happens all the time at the Lakeshore Dr left turn into the Yacht Club at Monroe =(
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Yeah but what if you meant to turn left ;-)
Right - WHOOPS - U - Right - WHOOPS - U - Right...
by that time, of course, a car has come along, tripped the sensor you had been waiting at for 20 minutes, and pulled in ahead of you ;-)
This happens all the time at the Lakeshore Dr left turn into the Yacht Club at Monroe =(
Well, if you wanted to turn left, make a right "by mistake", say "whoops" really loud, and do a U'ey and keep going.

You'd think these traffic experts would wise up to the fact that us bikers don't weigh enough to trip the sensors.

... well, with perhaps the exception of that one biker guy trkyleg posted the pix of (say no to crack) ... I'm sure not only could he trip the sensor, but also leave a sinkhole at the intersection.

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When pulling up to a light, look for the outline of the inductive loop in the pavement.
Put your kickstand down so it's perpendicular to the outline.
Works for me 90% of the time.
FYI, this won't work if you have an aluminium kickstand.

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I blow the light after its clear and no one around.
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I've got magnets on my bikes. They seem to help about 50% of the time. Often, you have to slowly rock the bike back and forth on the pad to get the magnet to trigger the light.

The lights are triggered by the metal standing over the pad. This metal affects a electrical field that the coil in the pad puts out, with the change in the field telling the light that a vehicle is there. If you don't have enough metal to cause detection, then the magnet will help, but often only if the magnet is moving (it's affect is multiplied when moving), thus the rocking motion. Putting the kickstand (if steel) down gets the metal closer to the coil, and may help.
Many, too many, lights in the Chicago area are simply adjusted to be less sensitive (to avoid false triggers) and no bike (with or without magnet) will trigger them. It's very frustrating. I've had mixed results trying to report lights that are mis-adjusted. The hard part is figuring out who is responsible for the light - village/city, township, county or state. Sometimes it gets fixed - maybe 20% of the time on those I intersections use enough to report.

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I blow the light after its clear and no one around.
+2 and if a cop pulls me over... I'll just tell him my bike doesn't trip the light... what you want me to do.

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Yea I am going to try some of those things on the light by my house.... I always blow it when I am on the bike. I've had 3 bikes on there once and it didn't pick us up... It's very annoying.

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+2 and if a cop pulls me over... I'll just tell him my bike doesn't trip the light... what you want me to do.
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Stop OVER THE EDGE of the loop ( tires on the cut ).

If that doesn't work, look both ways and make a safe turn.


That is a malfunctioning signal.


I have to do this to get out of my subdivision 75% of the time.


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I blow the light after its clear and no one around.

+1 ... me too ... fudge em

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Stop OVER THE EDGE of the loop ( tires on the cut ).

If that doesn't work, look both ways and make a safe turn.


That is a malfunctioning signal.


I have to do this to get out of my subdivision 75% of the time.


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I do that too. I ride on the tar outlines where the sensors are, and roll back and forth over it until the light trips.

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You'll have to check, but if I recall 2 cycles of lights deems the light malfunctioning, and you can proceed with caution. Again, don't quote me, but I seem to remember something like that. It may be 3 cycles But I know that if you are at the light, turning left and the light goes red, the other direction of traffic goes green - yellow - red, and your light goes green - yellow - red again without giving you a turn arrow, you may proceed at the next cycle when it is safe to do so (green light from your direction and no cars comming).

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http://www.greenlightstuff.com/trigger.html
or tear apart an old HD.
I've got a greenlighttrigger ziptied around my kickstand. It's not 100%, but I trip alot of lights with it that would never change before I got it.
I've actually got a couple of them left (bought a bunch for friends, got too many). Let me know if you want one. cheep.

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or tear apart an old HD.
I've got a greenlighttrigger ziptied around my kickstand. It's not 100%, but I trip alot of lights with it that would never change before I got it.
I've actually got a couple of them left (bought a bunch for friends, got too many). Let me know if you want one. cheep.
hmmm maybe..
I'm doin the Portage bike night tonight, I bet you're going to Portillo's (if anything) I might be at Portillo's next Wednesday though.. how cheap? =)

'course I have plenty of crap HDDs that I can just rip apart haha
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Since it's on topic, how do you guys set off the sensors in the on-ramp lights? Those don't have an inductor and I know they aren't timed because I'll pull up there after another car and sit and wait then finally give up. Does anyone else have a fix for this problem?

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Since it's on topic, how do you guys set off the sensors in the on-ramp lights? Those don't have an inductor and I know they aren't timed because I'll pull up there after another car and sit and wait then finally give up. Does anyone else have a fix for this problem?

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hmmm maybe..
I'm doin the Portage bike night tonight, I bet you're going to Portillo's (if anything) I might be at Portillo's next Wednesday though.. how cheap? =)

'course I have plenty of crap HDDs that I can just rip apart haha
I've got four of 'em left, ten bucks each would make me happy. Still in the package.
They want $15 on their website, plus shipping in a big ugly brown truck. Yours will be delivered by a Ducati.
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I do that too. I ride on the tar outlines where the sensors are, and roll back and forth over it until the light trips.
+1 works for me most of the time. if a light doesn't trip, i usually catch a car that comes up behind me before the next time the light is supposed to go on.
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I've got four of 'em left, ten bucks each would make me happy. Still in the package.
They want $15 on their website, plus shipping in a big ugly brown truck. Yours will be delivered by a Ducati.
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sold =) I'll take 2.. you ever in the loop or northside of chi? or bike night?
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Since it's on topic, how do you guys set off the sensors in the on-ramp lights? Those don't have an inductor and I know they aren't timed because I'll pull up there after another car and sit and wait then finally give up. Does anyone else have a fix for this problem?
Too funny!! What lights? I always keep a good distance between the vehicle ahead and myself. I didn't know you were supposed to stop at those.

As for red lights, we ran into that on the newbie ride some weeks back. The cars were too far back to trip 'em because there was so many of us. Eventually after ~2min, look left, look right, look left, go.

As for waiting for cycles, well, if the damn thing cycles then you'd get your green, wouldn't you. Again, 1-2 min, no green, treat it as a 4way stop, proceed when safe.
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you could always check out the illinois road laws website. i printed out the info from the indiana one and carry it with me at all times. i constantly have to run lights because of lousy sensors around my area.

others have mentioned hitting your starter button, but i've never bothered to test that theory. anybody? anybody?
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hit your start button...works every time
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start button? really? naaa.

Wouldnt mind a light trigger... any left?
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