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so I thought these guys were going on strike? I'm glad they are not cause off all the dmege to the flooded houses. Got our guy pickin up right now at work. They do a job must people wouldn't thnk about doing and smelling andvdealing with shit... They want a raise, I say give it to them

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i dont know what they are makeing these days so i cant say anything.

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I'd pick up garbage for 60k a year.

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The hell with that those guys are making 60k plus for a job that requires no education. I had a friend that paid his way through college working for WM or one of the other big collectors. They keep complaining and they'll just get replaced with immigrant labor. This is the problem with our country everyone thinks they're entitled we all want to work a half day for 2 days pay and we wonder why our economy sucks.

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I was home one day and watched our garbage get picked up. He was talking on his cell phone the whole time. Can't be too hard, gimme a break.
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Its a shitty job, youve got to deal with weather, when its 100 or 20 below out, heavy ass shit, blow your back out youre screwed. Most cdl truck drivers are at over 20$ an hr as it is. If its so easy then why isnt everyone signing up. I would blow my head off if everyday i got up i had to deal with fucked up cans and bags with shitty diapers, bloody maxi pads, stinking garbage. screw that.

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I haz an idea.

Starting Thursday, don't put your cans on the street, let them walk over and get it themselves. YEA!

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Its a shitty job, youve got to deal with weather, when its 100 or 20 below out, heavy ass shit, blow your back out youre screwed. Most cdl truck drivers are at over 20$ an hr as it is. If its so easy then why isnt everyone signing up. I would blow my head off if everyday i got up i had to deal with fucked up cans and bags with shitty diapers, bloody maxi pads, stinking garbage. screw that.

Whos at work right now on Clsb typing on the clock, its no different then some dude on his cell phone.
Srsly. Only ex gangbangers that still smoke pot become garbage men.

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I don't know.

Life pretty much sucked and there was no middle class at all before Organized Labor came along in the late 1800's / early 1900's. 12-16 hour workdays 6 days a week and barely enough to feed you and your family in the pay envelope. Read some Upton Sinclair or something from that time period to get the feel for what it was like to live and work before unions.

Not to say that I agree with everything unions have done, but in all, they have contributed much to American society over the last 100 years. 8 hour workdays, 5 day work weeks, middle class incomes. None of us would enjoy these things without the hard won battles of organized labor.

In fact, Reagan's assault on unions beginning with the Air Traffic Controllers affair in 1981 was the start of the decline in middle class incomes and quality of life for all of us.

Not that Reagan acted outside the law, but his actions and his appointments to the NLRB and Federal Judges set a tone and caused corporations across the spectrum to start busting unions and generally attack organized labor across the board, in the media, at the bargaining table, and in Congress.

Contract negotiations take two parties to agree. Most management only thinks about the short term, and thus agree to contracts that hurt the business in the long run.

I can't fault the union for trying to get their members the best deal. That's what they are there for.

But the corruption, etc. - I'm not OK with that. From either side.

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I don't know.

Life pretty much sucked and there was no middle class at all before Organized Labor came along in the late 1800's / early 1900's. 12-16 hour workdays 6 days a week and barely enough to feed you and your family in the pay envelope. Read some Upton Sinclair or something from that time period to get the feel for what it was like to live and work before unions.

Not to say that I agree with everything unions have done, but in all, they have contributed much to American society over the last 100 years. 8 hour workdays, 5 day work weeks, middle class incomes. None of us would enjoy these things without the hard won battles of organized labor.

In fact, Reagan's assault on unions beginning with the Air Traffic Controllers affair in 1981 was the start of the decline in middle class incomes and quality of life for all of us.

Not that Reagan acted outside the law, but his actions and his appointments to the NLRB and Federal Judges set a tone and caused corporations across the spectrum to start busting unions and generally attack organized labor across the board, in the media, at the bargaining table, and in Congress.

Contract negotiations take two parties to agree. Most management only thinks about the short term, and thus agree to contracts that hurt the business in the long run.

I can't fault the union for trying to get their members the best deal. That's what they are there for.

But the corruption, etc. - I'm not OK with that. From either side.
you forget that CLSB is VERY right wing. Give me my guns and my money and fuck everybody else.

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Srsly. Only ex gangbangers that still smoke pot become garbage men.
if theyre smokin they wont last too long due to the Cdl requirements of mandatory random drug tests, you guys are harsh. Thats a unfair statement to generalize all of them as ex-gangbangers man, alot of those guys are just uneducated and fell into driving a truck, it doesnt make then losers. My old man was a truck driver local 705 teamsters he did local pickups and deliverys, we would have been in the poor house had it not been for the union, back in 1979 he had a double bypass and was off for like 6 months, if he wasnt covered by the union we would have lost our house and maybe had to go out and suck dick for money. My old man dropped out of high school at 15 yrs old when his dad died and started working. he didnt get hs ged until 1980 when he was 41 yrs old. he had to retire at 55 due to getting hep c from his heart surgery. That union pension he paid into is paying off now. hes got a pretty good life at 70.
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you forget that CLSB is VERY right wing. Give me my guns and my money and fuck everybody else.
And we wouldn't be able to enjoy those things without the presence of Organized Labor for the last 100 years. No time to play, no money for bikes and guns, no money at all.

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if theyre smokin they wont last too long due to the Cdl requirements of mandatory random drug tests, you guys are harsh. Thats a unfair statement to generalize all of them as ex-gangbangers man, alot of those guys are just uneducated and fell into driving a truck, it doesnt make then losers. My old man was a truck driver local 705 teamsters he did local pickups and deliverys, we would have been in the poor house had it not been for the union, back in 1979 he had a double bypass and was off for like 6 months, if he wasnt covered by the union we would have lost our house and maybe had to go out and suck dick for money. My old man dropped out of high school at 15 yrs old when his dad died and started working. he didnt get hs ged until 1980 when he was 41 yrs old. he had to retire at 55 due to getting hep c from his heart surgery. That union pension he paid into is paying off now. hes got a pretty good life at 70.
another thing, when the teamsters had the "family" running it, the pension fund was always over funded, and there was no shortage, now look at it, big business seems to run like big government.

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And we wouldn't be able to enjoy those things without the presence of Organized Labor for the last 100 years. No time to play, no money for bikes and guns, no money at all.
i agree with you, the point I was trying to make (and I will admit, it was a very tongue in cheek way) was that CLSB is very conservative. Generally speaking Unions are more of a democratic alignment (meaning democrats vs. republicans)

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i agree with you, the point I was trying to make (and I will admit, it was a very tongue in cheek way) was that CLSB is very conservative. Generally speaking Unions are more of a democratic alignment (meaning democrats vs. republicans)
Yea, I caught that.

I'm something of a history buff, and I was just pointing out some historical facts.

I'm pretty much over the political party stuff. Not much difference between them, so I just do candidate by candidate evals. Usually boils down the to the lesser of 2 evils. Especially here in Illinois/Cook County/Chicago.

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Yea, I caught that.

I'm something of a history buff, and I was just pointing out some historical facts.

I'm pretty much over the political party stuff. Not much difference between them, so I just do candidate by candidate evals. Usually boils down the to the lesser of 2 evils. Especially here in Illinois/Cook County/Chicago.
my only complaint is that more often then not they vote down party lines. So I have come to this very simple conclusion

when the democrats are in office, the little guy wins, more funding for social programs etc.

when the republicans are in office, the big guy wins, more tax cuts and lax big business oversight.

in both cases the middle class loses. the middle class thrives when it's left on it's own, so when one is in power, i vote for the other one. because with balence the middle class can thrive. to much of any one thing hurts us.

and when I mean in power, in IL the two powers are the governer and the mayor

at the federal level, it's the president and the senate / house.

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There was a time for union labor and there is also a time for men to be men and stand on their own two feet and work for what is theirs to take. I run a very socially responsible company, we buy fair trade goods because in the areas of the world that produce them there is still massive inequity. I also think that many Americans need to pull out the tampon and get back to work. I look at the economy crumbling around us because every asshole thinks they are entitled to a free ride. I used union labor to build out my shop paid too much money and got the absolute minimum effort from most of the guys on site the only reason they finished on time was because that asshole owner was on site every day.

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I can't fault the union for trying to get their members the best deal.

Get their members the best deal? Hell all they are concerned about is their own pocketbook. Been screwed over TWICE by the UAW and once by the NWCC. Amazing how fast they scream when they want dues, but sure as hell wont lift a fucking finger to help a member find work. Not to mention how apprentices get treated.
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worked for local 701(electrical) for 1 year and left. Most unions these days have fucked themselves cause of their bullshit. It's no longer about what's best for the group but it's more about me me me. But some unions are still needed these days. I was running circles around these 26 year old kids and I have had a heart attack and M.S. And some people actually had the gall to bitch that I was out working their slow fat asses. I got tired of it and left cause I didn't want to deal with anymore bullshit. But the unions have fucked themselves in my eyes. But a bargae guy say in the city of Chicago or new York has to go up and down stairs grabbing garbage and shit like that and they damn well deserve a raise for bustin their asses in the shifty weather and areas they have to go to

...plus my gf was with me saying "omg slow down, slow down" and I was thinking "Lose annoying squalk box in passenger seat, afford more mods and have less weight in the car and on the back of the bike"...so i dumped her and I'm single again as usual...HERE KITTY KITTY!!!
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Human nature being what it is, we all want something for nothing.

I have experienced Coffeeguy's issues (from both as a union guy and as a manager/customer) and have had my issues with internal union politics as well. I've been a member of two different unions. I retain one membership currently, but do not work in a union job, and haven't for several (like 17) years.

Thunderstruck, I know where you are coming from as well.

Being self serving is a short-term thinking kind of thing. Not good in the long run for anyone.

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