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Interesting article on the cell phone companies trying to overturn the current FCC regs. It is debatable whether they interfere with instruments or not. Europe has begun to allow cell phone use on flights. I travel quite a bit so being able to use e-mail/text would be nice. A bunch of people conducting conversations on a flight would be annoying. I once left my BB on in my bag and received all kinds of messages.

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The only issues I can see is how the GPRS/GSM signal seams to fuck with speakers. This could cause significant issues if someone is sitting near enough to the flight deck.

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No thanks... People are annoying enough on a flight. Imagine having to listen to them talk on their cell the whole flight? YUK

Then again.... depending on carriers it might not work regardless

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Is there even service up that high?
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Is there even service up that high?
Apparently.. I thought it would be an issue of traveling so fast for the towers. It worked pretty well for people during 911. Planes have their own phones, what type are they?




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I take a handful of vicodin, that is the only entertainment I need of flights.
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i normally just leave my phone on during a flight, i typically lose service when we reach cruising alt.

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I take a handful of vicodin, that is the only entertainment I need of flights.
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I prefer acid, it makes the guy out on the wing soo much more interesting during the flight




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On a few of my flights recently (I fly AA) the stewardess has made the announcment "our cell phone indicator is showing that there are 5 cell phones which are still turned on. We can not leave the gate until those are turned off, please check your cell phone and ensure that it is turned off, thank you."

I wondered if it was BS, because I know several assholes, like mopar, who just go ahead and ignore all the rules that the rest of us must follow and they get away with it.

Sorry, but I don't know a single frequent traveler who really would want their phone to work in the air, except maybe the airport douchebags. E-mail/internet would be great. Phones, not necessary-- most frequent travelers relish their air time as THEIR time.
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AHAHAHA Cell phone indicator. I want to hear from a pilot about that, I think it is BS, maybe a frequency meter and they just see the 800 and 2400 bands lite up but a cell phone indicator sounds like stupid steward lingo.

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Sorry, but I don't know a single frequent traveler who really would want their phone to work in the air, except maybe the airport douchebags. E-mail/internet would be great. Phones, not necessary-- most frequent travelers relish their air time as THEIR time.
Amen to that!! That is one of two times in my life that I have complete peace from my electronic leash. The other is when I am on the bike (although I have seen idiots trying to talk on their cell phone when they ride). I wouldn't mind e-mail/text access but no voice. Inevitably you'll get one of the "really important" people, you know the type, who feels the need to talk over everyone else just so everyone knows how important they are. lol. fools...
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AHAHAHA Cell phone indicator. I want to hear from a pilot about that, I think it is BS, maybe a frequency meter and they just see the 800 and 2400 bands lite up but a cell phone indicator sounds like stupid steward lingo.

I've heard them talk about seat belt indicators also. That's just to trick the noobs.
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I wondered if it was BS, because I know several assholes, like mopar, who just go ahead and ignore all the rules that the rest of us must follow and they get away with it.
i also like to take off and land with my tray table down, just to stick it to the man!

i agree, voice service on a plane i would prolly punch some guy in the face. text/email sure.

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and why do I have to turn off my IPOD for landing? I guess even the slightest chance is worth the rule.




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and why do I have to turn off my IPOD for landing? I guess even the slightest chance is worth the rule.
Slightest chance at what? Rocking out during landing?

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Slightest chance at what? Rocking out during landing?
True... no rocking out during landing. I assume interference or why is this a rule? The best is the flight attendants trying to alert people to take them off that can not hear anything.




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Slightest chance at what? Rocking out during landing?
they dont want you to be head banging during landing, scaring the other passengers.

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Alex, you live dangerously man. Seriously, headbanging during landing WITH the tray table down!?!?! Well done!
I am guessing that by making the rule that ALL electronic portable devices have to be off during the flight (or take-off/landing), it makes it much easier for the staff to verify that everyone on-board is in compliance. I get it, but I don't like to be lied to or given some BS reason for it.
Does the Ipod even have a FCC id/license code on the back of it?

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3 to 4 microhertz?

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i can see it for texting and emailing but only if it was on an international flight and i was really bored. otherwise, i like the peace. skiing, riding, and camping are the only other times i get to escape from all the technology
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Inevitably you'll get one of the "really important" people, you know the type, who feels the need to talk over everyone else just so everyone knows how important they are. lol. fools...
Yes, those are commonly known as "airport douchebags."

Ask Drama; we compete as to who can find the most douchie douchebags in airports worldwide.
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I think it was a British flight last week that had navigational issues because someone had their laptop on during the flight.

If the casing of the electrical device is broke, its going to emitt electromagnetic frequencies.

So when the pilots landing the plane, "Am I 10 feet off the ground or is it really 20 feet"?
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aircraft wiring is insulated to the point where it would be extremely difficult (even with exposed wiring on an electrical device) to cause interference on an aircraft that is relatively new (read: 1980).

the airlines spend TONS of time coming up with rules that don't get them anywhere, but they must make a decision. i've found that in the case of gray areas in question, they will ALWAYS take what they feel is the safer route, whether it makes sense to those that will actually be involved in the situation or not.

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ok folks, here's the deal straight from the pilot's mouth...

no there's no cell phone indicator...but...

some peoples cell phones do interfere with the speakers and headsets, and interfere with ATC commands etc...

it can be anywhere from a constant "DIT-DIT-DIT-DIT-DIT-DIT" noise, to squeals, to hearing the person's conversation...

all of which obscure what I'm trying to hear from the tower or atc or other aircraft

just a few months ago I was flying into DFW with low low ceilings, and while we're on approach below 1000' someone turns on their cell phone to arrange their pickup, and we can't hear shit over the radio...

now say the plane in front of us had an emergency and didn't exit the runway, and we broke out at 100-200' to find an aircraft in our way, because we couldn't hear the tower tell us to go around...yes this is extreme situation, but definitely one that could happen.


the reason they ban all electronic devices, is because when installing the wiring, they would have to test it against every electronic device for certification that they are shielded...and with the sheer amount of devices out there, and new device every year, they simply cannot test for that all the time...so they just make you turn it off
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ok folks, here's the deal straight from the pilot's mouth...

no there's no cell phone indicator...but...

some peoples cell phones do interfere with the speakers and headsets, and interfere with ATC commands etc...

it can be anywhere from a constant "DIT-DIT-DIT-DIT-DIT-DIT" noise, to squeals, to hearing the person's conversation...

all of which obscure what I'm trying to hear from the tower or atc or other aircraft

just a few months ago I was flying into DFW with low low ceilings, and while we're on approach below 1000' someone turns on their cell phone to arrange their pickup, and we can't hear shit over the radio...

now say the plane in front of us had an emergency and didn't exit the runway, and we broke out at 100-200' to find an aircraft in our way, because we couldn't hear the tower tell us to go around...yes this is extreme situation, but definitely one that could happen.


the reason they ban all electronic devices, is because when installing the wiring, they would have to test it against every electronic device for certification that they are shielded...and with the sheer amount of devices out there, and new device every year, they simply cannot test for that all the time...so they just make you turn it off
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