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Feds raid Mongols motorcycle gang
Multistate ATF investigation nets dozens; one in Tukwila
By PAUL SHUKOVSKY
P-I REPORTER

Federal agents arrested a man in the Tukwila area Tuesday morning as part of a multistate, undercover investigation into the Mongols motorcycle gang.

William Shawley, of 13467 Macadam Road, is one of dozens of motorcycle gang members in six states arrested on warrants ranging from drug sales to murder. Deputy U.S. marshals escorted Shawley into federal magistrate court in Seattle on Tuesday afternoon to hear charges -- including conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine and cocaine -- that could send him to federal prison for life.

The arrest stems from the work of four Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents who infiltrated the outlaw motorcycle gang, Agent Nick Starcevic of the Seattle ATF office said.

"The agents actually became patch members of the Mongols," Starcevic said. "They lived with these guys for three years."

At least 61 members of the Southern California-based Mongols Motorcycle Club were arrested under a federal racketeering indictment that included charges of murder, attempted murder, assault, as well as gun and drug violations, ATF spokesman Mike Hoffman said.

The sweep, dubbed Operation Black Rain, is expected to continue, agents said.

Federal and local agents had 110 federal arrest warrants and 160 search warrants that were being served across Southern California and in Nevada, Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and Ohio.

Shawley's was the only arrest made in Washington. There were four search warrants executed in Oregon, but no arrests.

In charging that the Mongols are a criminal enterprise, Shawley and the other alleged gang members are accused of conspiring to enrich themselves through control of the distribution of narcotics by using "intimidation, violence, threats of violence, assault and murder."

Shawley and others obtained guns, knives, bulletproof vests and explosives for use against rival gangs, the indictment says. The Mongols are generally accused of committing "acts of violence, including murder, against rival gang members, law enforcement or other persons who would challenged the authority of the Mongols organization."

At Shawley's court appearance Tuesday, a federal prosecutor said Shawley is named in numerous specific criminal acts listed in the indictment. For example, he is accused of capturing and torturing a man by breaking his knuckles with pliers and smashing his knees with a metal pipe.

Shawley allegedly possessed a .40-caliber handgun in August 2006 while doing cocaine at the Scrap Iron Kustom motorcycle shop in Van Nuys, Calif. A few days later, he allegedly delivered an automatic SKS assault rifle bearing a 60-round magazine and a 12-gauge shotgun to someone at a Mongols event. And he is accused of possessing two machine guns in anticipation of an attack on a rival gang in Riverside County, Calif.

On Oct. 1, 2006, Shawley is alleged to have told an undercover agent posing as a potential Mongols member "that patrons of a bar would be assaulted or killed if they disrespected Mongols members." He subsequently attacked a bar patron in the parking lot, the indictment says.

Because Shawley's alleged crimes took place in California, the U.S. Marshals Service will take him there for future court proceedings.

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which means there's at least one more out there, if not more.

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Sportbike and dirtbike people don't encounter "patch clubs" often, but they are very real. If you do encounter them, keep your distance, and be respectful. They don't take kindly to being made a spectacle of.
Tensions between certain groups in this area run high and could erupt at any time or any place...be mindful of that if you go to a race or a bike show or swap meet and you see more than one club's colors being displayed and they are not mingling in a friendly manner. If trouble breaks out, they don't care about "Colateral damage".
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i waved to a big pack of harleys about 2 months ago on my way to work but nobody waved back. all of them were sporting hell's angels jackets, but i couldn't see where they were from.
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i don't wave at harleys unless they wave first. they *usually* don't return the favor if you're first.

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out in cali , the mongols are usually seen riding in a pack of a hundred or more , usually followed by a police helicopter, there are also banditos and vagos as well as angels , each club numbers in the thousands or more , they are all as strong as ever, all over the west , not just in riverside , i've met several angels who were decent folk , i couldn't say the same for the mongols
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Downtown Indy during Moto GP weekend. Some biker gang guy got jumped on and zapped by the cops. It happened right behind us. I think a fight started and he pulled a gun. The cops where on top of him in like 2 seconds.

As long as there are bikes there will be biker gangs. And they don't just ride Harleys.

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There are lots of nasty biker gangs. In fact we have on of the worst kinds of Hells Angels around here. It's a Hells Angels Nomads chapter. There are the worst of the worst of the Hells Angels.

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Anyone see the show Gangland? I think it on the History channel. They did a show on the Outlaws. A lot of it was in the Chicagoland area. They are dudes you don't want to mess with.

Anyone read the Hunter S. Thompson book about the time he spent with the Hells Angels in the 60s?

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Anyone see the show Gangland? I think it on the History channel. They did a show on the Outlaws. A lot of it was in the Chicagoland area. They are dudes you don't want to mess with.

Anyone read the Hunter S. Thompson book about the time he spent with the Hells Angels in the 60s?
Yeah I saw the report they did on the Angels, It was a pretty interesting documentry. It kind of sent chills down your spine.

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anyone read the Hunter S. Thompson book about the time he spent with the Hells Angels in the 60s?
i have been meaning to pick that up, i saw some special on TV about it. very much peaked my interest.

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Funny thing is a chicago outlaw taught me how to ride. Probally one of the scrarest days in my life learning how to ride on a 02 hyabusa he bought for his wife that morning. I didn't want to learn on it but he insisted, and kept on insisting till i got on the damn thing. Next week i bought a 4fi, and the rest is history.
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The Gangs are real and here to stay.

The documentary on the histry channel is good. Been replaying it lately to.
On of the tree biggest car bombs were from a motogang and happened right here in Chicago. Its a real eye opener.
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never pass a motorcycle "gang" on your bike unless you are waved by. the angles, mongols, and several others are very real out west.

and to be that far into a gang i am sure they must have some sort of immunity because there was some drinking, drug use, violence that needs to be done to fit in. i dont see the vegitarian guy that is a pacificst and just got of AA fittin in too well.

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Sportbike and dirtbike people don't encounter "patch clubs" often, but they are very real. If you do encounter them, keep your distance, and be respectful. They don't take kindly to being made a spectacle of.
Tensions between certain groups in this area run high and could erupt at any time or any place...be mindful of that if you go to a race or a bike show or swap meet and you see more than one club's colors being displayed and they are not mingling in a friendly manner. If trouble breaks out, they don't care about "Colateral damage".
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Sportbike and dirtbike people don't encounter "patch clubs" often, but they are very real. If you do encounter them, keep your distance, and be respectful. They don't take kindly to being made a spectacle of.
Tensions between certain groups in this area run high and could erupt at any time or any place...be mindful of that if you go to a race or a bike show or swap meet and you see more than one club's colors being displayed and they are not mingling in a friendly manner. If trouble breaks out, they don't care about "Colateral damage".
I was around Harley's a lot when I was younger and some of the Hell's Angels guys would come into my dad's HD dealership back in Des Moines, but I never really noticed any "gang colors" on anyone ever. Do they have flags or logos or do they actually have particular colors on their leathers?

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I was around Harley's a lot when I was younger and some of the Hell's Angels guys would come into my dad's HD dealership back in Des Moines, but I never really noticed any "gang colors" on anyone ever. Do they have flags or logos or do they actually have particular colors on their leathers?
HA colors are red and white. They will usually force there sister clubs to wear a red and white patch to show aligence.

Each club has a designated logo that has one banner above the logo bearing the name of the club and one rocker below the logo w/ the location of their chapter.

i c the Outlaws MC when i am cruiseing around the SS. I believe there is also the Leagon (spelling) out in mccook county.

i forget the site but there is one its called something like the Confederation of something or other.

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I was around Harley's a lot when I was younger and some of the Hell's Angels guys would come into my dad's HD dealership back in Des Moines, but I never really noticed any "gang colors" on anyone ever. Do they have flags or logos or do they actually have particular colors on their leathers?
Here's a short course on club "colors":
The colors of a motorcycle club in the world that is the subject of this thread are earned by the wearer...anyone caught wearing the colors of a club that is in fact not a genuine member of that club would pay a very heavy price...it could cost them their lives!
The colors consist of a 3 piece back patch. A top rocker, the centerpatch, and the bottom rocker that usually indicates the city, state , or region of the chapter you belong to.
A top rocker is given to a prospective member as he is serving his time as a "prospect" ...in most clubs it is worn with a big white "P" in the place where a center patch will appear when the prospect is finally accepted into the club. The bottom rocker will be awarded as you get closer to earning your center patch, making you a full member.
The center patch is earned by serving your masters as you earn your way in and prove yourself to the full members that you are worthy of being a member and becoming one of their brothers...no one and nothing...not even family or work or anything comes before the club and your brothers...ever.
Many clubs don't always wear their colors, especially when they are alone or away from motorcycle activties to avoid running afoul of the law or to avoid confrontations with rival clubs or stupid civilians.
This is serious to the members of the clubs. They had to earn their colors and they will not tolerate anyone disrespecting them in any way.
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The colors consist of a 3 piece back patch. A top rocker, the centerpatch, and the bottom rocker that usually indicates the city, state , or region of the chapter you belong to.
A top rocker is given to a prospective member as he is serving his time as a "prospect" ...in most clubs it is worn with a big white "P" in the place where a center patch will appear when the prospect is finally accepted into the club. The bottom rocker will be awarded as you get closer to earning your center patch, making you a full member.
The center patch is earned by serving your masters as you earn your way in and prove yourself to the full members that you are worthy of being a member and becoming one of their brothers...no one and nothing...not even family or work or anything comes before the club and your brothers...ever.
Many clubs don't always wear their colors, especially when they are alone or away from motorcycle activties to avoid running afoul of the law or to avoid confrontations with rival clubs or stupid civilians.
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Read "Under & Alone". Its all about a Federal Agent who went under cover with the Mongols. Great book.

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If you are able to obtain a copy of the November 2000 Playboy magazine, or can access it online, there is an in depth story about happenings among clubs and it covers some very nasty business that took place in the Chicagoland area...business that is in some circles not resolved to this day...it would be a very eye opening read if you could find a copy.
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If you are able to obtain a copy of the November 2000 Playboy magazine, or can access it online, there is an in depth story about happenings among clubs and it covers some very nasty business that took place in the Chicagoland area...business that is in some circles not resolved to this day...it would be a very eye opening read if you could find a copy.
i am sure that you read playboy for the articles.

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