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Awesome finish. I just watched it... I don't think Glock allowed him to pass but maybe. He stayed on slicks while the rain came down. I don't think he could hold it together any longer.

It was also the only reason Glock was in the top five at that point. Ferrari had not idea, they thought they had won the championship at first.






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What a race!

Great drama start to finish. I'm sure Glock will be receiving a new watch from Lewis for that nice last turn slow-down. They were announcing lap times while on slicks and he wasn't loosing too much time.
Just imagine Massa crossing the line, finishing 1st after winning the pole at your home track, winning the drivers championship, and half a track later finding out, until next year for that drivers championship, again.
Mercedes had a lot of bad luck thrown their way and finally luck was on their side.
Next season will be a mess. New cars, motor changes, rules changes, etc.
Hopefully someone other than Ferrari and Mercedes will compete.
Alonso looks to be happy? Was he laying the tracks for the future when he said that he would help out Massa for the Championship if he could? Ferrari in his future when Kimi leaves?
That's enough--til next year.
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Great drama start to finish. I'm sure Glock will be receiving a new watch from Lewis for that nice last turn slow-down. They were announcing lap times while on slicks and he wasn't loosing too much time.
Just imagine Massa crossing the line, finishing 1st after winning the pole at your home track, winning the drivers championship, and half a track later finding out, until next year for that drivers championship, again.
Mercedes had a lot of bad luck thrown their way and finally luck was on their side.
Next season will be a mess. New cars, motor changes, rules changes, etc.
Hopefully someone other than Ferrari and Mercedes will compete.
Alonso looks to be happy? Was he laying the tracks for the future when he said that he would help out Massa for the Championship if he could? Ferrari in his future when Kimi leaves?
That's enough--til next year.
Except for the fact that Glock and Toyota do not like Mclaren. Glock has expressed his dismay for Lewis on several occasions and now he's just going let him win? If that was the case, Glock would of pitted with the rest of the field and changed to rain tires. They stayed out to try and grab a piece of the podium. It was obvious in the final corner that his slicks could not hold on any longer and he was passed by Vettel and Lewis.




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yea, next year will be a bunch different. I hope it doesn't suck. you know all the talk about rule changes for the saving of money, I have an idea. STOP CHANGING SHIT!!! the more the rules change, the more the engineers try to compensate for them and gain back the performance they once had. seems like it's costing more to save money to me.

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yea, next year will be a bunch different. I hope it doesn't suck. you know all the talk about rule changes for the saving of money, I have an idea. STOP CHANGING SHIT!!! the more the rules change, the more the engineers try to compensate for them and gain back the performance they once had. seems like it's costing more to save money to me.

They were talking about a standard engine to reduce costs like IRL or Nascar. Ferrari aready vowed to boycott. That would suck. Leave it alone, let Mclaren and Ferrari continue to sell engines to independents.

It's the competitive factor. I understand, no one can keep up with these two teams. They said during the broadcast that Mclaren spent 7 million in R&D just on a tenth of a second increase in speed for the final race. Nuts.




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Funny stuff...... what a nail-biter !


Hamilton was only denied last year because of the team espionage thing.

He is a very talented driver.

Have to admit..... I was cheering for Masa..... he has earned it as well.


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Final two laps..




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What a crazy ending to an already drama filled season!!

Nice little twist of fate that last year Hamilton was basically error free in his rookie season until the final rounds. Those errors cost him a title by just a single point. This year a few timely mistakes for the Ferrari camp handed him a title by that same margin.

I was pulling for Massa too but luck just wasn't on his side this year.

I do think some of the rule changes for next year might be good. Changes in the aerodynamics guidelines that promote more passing could be a good thing. Right now the cars are so aero dependent that a faster car often can't pass a slower one at many of the tighter tracks.

I think a spec engine rule is a poor choice though. There are plenty of series where that's a good thing. F1 isn't one of them!

I'm glad they got rid of traction control & launch control for this season. It put the emphasis back on driver talent and made the races more exciting to watch.
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I wanted to see Massa win as well, pulling for the underdog. They are moving back to full slicks next year and changes in aero like Troy said.

Leave the engines alone. This is a major point of F1 in the first place and the reason the constructors title is so important. I think BMW will come back big next year.




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take it for what it's worth.....

http://www.formula1.com/news/intervi...8/11/8642.html

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Q: Did you realise the significance of Lewis Hamilton fighting with you on the final lap?
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To be honest I was racing for Toyota and my place which is the correct thing to do. I didn't even know that Lewis was directly behind me. The team told me that Sebastian Vettel was catching me and they kept me updated on his position but I was concentrating so hard on keeping the car on the track. I didn't even know that Lewis had overtaken me until after the race. I was passed by three or four cars on the final lap and it was not easy to keep track of what was going on.

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Some of the questions..

Toyota’s decision to keep their drivers on dry tyres when late ran arrived at Interlagos on Sunday helped set up a thrilling finale to the 2008 Formula One season. It also led cynics to question whether Timo Glock had deliberately slowed to assure Lewis Hamilton of the title. ‘Absolutely not,’ says the German…

Q: How did the rain at the end of the race affect your strategy?
Timo Glock: In the final laps we saw that we had the opportunity to make up some places due to the rain. It started to rain lightly on parts of the circuit with around six laps to go and at that stage everyone was on dry tyres. We took the decision to stay out on dry tyres even though the intensity of the rain was increasing we were sure we could make up positions when the other cars pitted for wet weather tyres and because it was only on the last couple of laps that the wet tyre was superior. We stayed out and I was up to fourth but it was not easy in those conditions in the last laps.

Q: What was it like in wet conditions with dry tyres?
TG: It was not so bad until the final lap when the rain really began to come down very heavily and it was just impossible. It was so difficult to just keep the car on the track because it was very wet and the car was basically undriveable in those conditions. I was sliding everywhere, with absolutely no grip at all.

Q: Were you taking it easy on the final lap?
TG: Absolutely not! It was completely the opposite; the final lap was one of the hardest laps I have done in Formula One because there was no grip at all and on dry tyres it was almost impossible to keep the car on track. I was pushing really hard to keep fourth place and if you look at the lap times I was actually faster than Jarno on the final lap and he was the only other car on dry tyres at that stage.

Q: Was it the right decision to stay on dry tyres?
TG: Absolutely no doubt about it. We were running seventh before the rain came and we would have probably finished there if it had been totally dry. Instead we finished sixth so that shows the strategy was the right one.




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