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get with the times biggy. hell i saw it even before gcon posted it. i surf digg.com too guys

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For the record, this article was declared fake @ digg.
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For the record, this article was declared fake @ digg.
Probably based on snopes
you cant declare and editorial fake or true.
it's an opinion.

Even if she later says she didn't mean it... She might have at the time.. Perhaps she is sick of getting hundreds or thousands of calls/emails/threats..

Perhaps she didnt send it at all..

real or joke
it wasn't fake.
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Actually many do, but the most out spoken ones are the ones who dont.




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Probably based on snopes
you cant declare and editorial fake or true.
it's an opinion.

Even if she later says she didn't mean it... She might have at the time.. Perhaps she is sick of getting hundreds or thousands of calls/emails/threats..

Perhaps she didnt send it at all..

real or joke
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its really not that far off from what most people think.

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its really not that far off from what most people think.

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
You can't take anything that guy says at face value...
He has a seriously failed grasp of the english language
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You can't take anything that guy says at face value...
He has a seriously failed grasp of the english language
show me a highly public elected politician who is an atheist and ill buy you a beer. sen? rep? president?

peoples heads are exploding at just the thought that obama would be a muslim president.

thats why they all have to say god bless america. god is on the dollar and in our pledge.

for whats supposed to be a secular nation, this country easily has a religious test of office. its always one of the first questions people ask about a politician. they want to know their family values. and they think values can only stem from an organized religion or person of faith.

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I think there should be a petition to ban Burntrash's avitar that dam thing makes me want to have a 40 every time I see it and sometimes I cant have a beer when I see it. This causes me many problems.

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for whats supposed to be a secular nation,
See there's the assumption that i making so hard for you to understand. No where does it say we are "supposed" to be a secular nation. Just because atheists want it to be that way doesn't make it true.




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See there's the assumption that i making so hard for you to understand. No where does it say we are "supposed" to be a secular nation. Just because atheists want it to be that way doesn't make it true.
i understand it doesnt say it, nor does it say anything about you have the right to a fair trial or a right of privacy. just because the phrase does not exist in document means that the concept should be considered invalid or as legal principle. that was the whole purpose of the getting away from england. getting away from a non-secular government. anyone with a drop of common sense knows religion/god should have nothing to do with government. yet it does, from the ten commandments on court houses, swearing to god, sworn in on a bible, god in the pledge, god on the currency. you know its not right.

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See there's the assumption that i making so hard for you to understand. No where does it say we are "supposed" to be a secular nation. Just because atheists want it to be that way doesn't make it true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separat..._United_States

there kinda is a whole big thing about being secular in the government and schools and court rooms

little more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Establi...irst_Amendment

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We got away from England due to money (Taxes). The rest was 'justification' to the public and to give the appearance of moral superiority (because money is not a moral superiority).
taxation without representation. if they raise taxes im dumping tea in lake michigan.

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Honestly I think the whole Nation is getting more [email protected]#Ked up due to not having more religious values. Yeah lets have kids pick and chose what they think is morally right screw it let them make there own rules and screw up. Not to say everyone needs moral guidance but dam I know a lot of them that do!
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Honestly I think the whole Nation is getting more [email protected]#Ked up due to not having more religious values. Yeah lets have kids pick and chose what they think is morally right screw it let them make there own rules and screw up. Not to say everyone needs moral guidance but dam I know a lot of them that do!
that assumes religion is the only place to get values from, which just isnt true.

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that assumes religion is the only place to get values from, which just isnt true.
I don't see to many Atheists trying to teach them what is right and wrong.
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I don't see to many Atheists trying to teach them what is right and wrong.


go read the old testament and tell me what you think of the morality in there. and it doesnt take the bible or scripture to understand the concept of "do unto others". you dont kill someone because you wouldnt want someone to kill you, same with stealing, etc. most morality and sense of good is just common sense.

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I don't see to many Atheists trying to teach them what is right and wrong.
what exactly about discrimination is moral? More people have been killed and murdered in the name of religion than for politics. Gay marriage is opposed because it's not God's view of marriage, gays are beaten and murdered because it was called wrong in the bible, Jews are persecuted because people think they killed their savior, blacks are discriminated against because they are referred to as lesser beings in the bible. What about the incest in the bible? The rapes and murders?

I certainly hope those aren't the values or right and wrong you want to teach to everyone
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what exactly about discrimination is moral? More people have been killed and murdered in the name of religion than for politics. Gay marriage is opposed because it's not God's view of marriage, Jews are persecuted because people think they killed their savior, blacks are discriminated against because they are referred to as lesser beings in the bible.

I certainly hope those aren't the values or right and wrong you want to teach to everyone
dont forget stoning adulterers to death and rape victims. this is still happening in 2008 by the way. a 13yo girl who was raped was somehow charged with adultery and stoned to death in a stadium of 1,000 spectators over in somalia.



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that was the whole purpose of the getting away from england.
Slightly distorted, and arch is also right, but it wasn't to get away from a non secular government, as most of the original settlers were of religious background. It was to get away from being forced to be one religion, hence the propensity for our founding fathers to have the freedom OF religion thing going on. Now dont get me wrong I'm not a bible thumper but I do have a problem with one group pushing their religious beliefs on the country, and I feel atheists have a made a religion out their beliefs, and they want to push the country to run under their belief system. If we are going to have freedom from religion we should have freedom from atheism as well.




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