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TerraPass

Does anyone have TerraPass?

I want more info. Thinking of getting on this wagon.

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what is it? never heard of it




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My contribution to offset my Carbon Footprint is $273. (annually)

So I would purchase a TerraPass for a combination of Auto/Flight/and Home for this price.

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Any Tax Gurus here? I want to know if this is tax deductible.

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There was a King of a Hill episode on this topic...lol
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Businesses can treat their purchase as a tax-deductible business expense. Individuals can not deduct their TerraPass purchase from their taxes.
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Why not just make a concerted effort to lower you output on your own? Buy some of the cool stuff they sell, like the power strip and the solar phone/ipod/etc charger and the like?

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I don't get it.

I pay them $175 for what?
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The site does not let you put in alternative modes of transportation or fun like motorcycles or boats.

As far as tax deductability, their website says that businesses can but individuals cannot. There are some other carbon offset companies that claim that they are classified as charitable organizations and you can claim the deduction.

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Businesses can treat their purchase as a tax-deductible business expense. Individuals can not deduct their TerraPass purchase from their taxes.
Darn.

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The site does not let you put in alternative modes of transportation or fun like motorcycles or boats.

As far as tax deductability, their website says that businesses can but individuals cannot. There are some other carbon offset companies that claim that they are classified as charitable organizations and you can claim the deduction.

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For the recreational vehicles, I just used the MPG calculator versus the automobile calculator

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Why not just make a concerted effort to lower you output on your own? Buy some of the cool stuff they sell, like the power strip and the solar phone/ipod/etc charger and the like?
I agree, but I like the concept of retracting all of my emissions versus slowing them. It is being sold in my mind as more effective and stronger direct impact.

I like that power strip too, its pretty neato.

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ATTN: Energy Engineers and Specialists - - What are your thoughts on this social group? I'm curious to hear your opinions of its efforts and efficiencies.

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For the recreational vehicles, I just used the MPG calculator versus the automobile calculator
i put 38mpg combined, and 6000miles a year.

its roughly 3100lbs vs 11000lbs for my 18mpg combined Sonoma at 10k miles a year
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I agree, but I like the concept of retracting all of my emissions versus slowing them. It is being sold in my mind as more effective and stronger direct impact.

I like that power strip too, its pretty neato.
Maybe I need to know more about the whole deal but how is donating money to them retracting all your emissions?

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We should ask them to add motorcycles. Although I know the EPA standards of emissions are slightly different for all classes of transportation (bus, freight truck, auto, motorcycle)... I wonder if there is a huge difference in the calculation that it would make that much of a difference.

I dont know the EPA standards for motorcycles vs. cars in the US. Do you?

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Maybe I need to know more about the whole deal but how is donating money to them retracting all your emissions?

retracting = lack of a better word I guess

Like I said - its being sold to me in my mind that my emissions are being permanently removed.

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if anything, the bikes are probably a bit dirtier since the performance nature of the engine, especially if fitted with aftermarket exhausts that remove the catalyst.

however, since the engine displacement is so much smaller, maybe the output is the same or equal of bad stuff compared to most cars.

they def use less fuel than the average car, and are getting close to the mileage of most hybrids
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retracting = lack of a better word I guess

Like I said - its being sold to me in my mind that my emissions are being permanently removed.
From reading their website it sounds like its just a creative way of getting people to donate to their company.

A company which happens to help fund clean energy generation.

That's fine if it helps your conscience or you want to be part of that move from fosil based electricity production but it doesn't read like they are taking your donation and saying "ok Jane donated to have XxX amount of carbon reduced from the atmosphere so turn the crank and take that much out."

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^^ That's exactly my thought at first.... MPG vs Emission Ratio

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if anything, the bikes are probably a bit dirtier since the performance nature of the engine, especially if fitted with aftermarket exhausts that remove the catalyst.

however, since the engine displacement is so much smaller, maybe the output is the same or equal of bad stuff compared to most cars.

they def use less fuel than the average car, and are getting close to the mileage of most hybrids
On top of that look at total footprint. It takes a LOT less in the industrial sector to produce a motorcycle even compared to a very small automobile.

So even if they were tailpipe polluting at a higher rate their total effect to the environment is much smaller overall.

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From reading their website it sounds like its just a creative way of getting people to donate to their company.

A company which happens to help fund clean energy generation.

That's fine if it helps your conscience or you want to be part of that move from fosil based electricity production but it doesn't read like they are taking your donation and saying "ok Jane donated to have XxX amount of carbon reduced from the atmosphere so turn the crank and take that much out."


Yea, I know.... Im skeptical, but curious. And interested in doing good.

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Err. I thought this was a pass for 1 night of buttsecks with you.
No If I had a pass, it would be in the form of a pardon where I didn't render you nuttless and uncool in front of your "biker gang".



(notice I didn't say anything about your intelligence in that one)

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In another lifetime while traversing the continental United States, I saw numerous wind farms and was thinking "what if I pulled a NickIF or tranny and started my own farm?!"

Things are like a million bucks a pop! Damnit!
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i wonder what percentage of the bikes are recyclable.
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