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Anyone else on here use Loopt? Blackberry - iPhone - others too.

I saw it on the iphone commercial and loaded it up..
It's pretty cool, but I only had 2 friends who were using it... So.. Really not so useful to me right now..
They have Blackberry and iPhone clients (and a # of other phones as well.. check out loopt.com for a list)


http://www.loopt.com/

It does have privacy features included.. So you can open or close your location to whomever you want.. You can snap geotagged photos.. etc..

Pretty cool

It works on your cell #.. So if you want to test it out.. ping me.. I don't want to post my real cell # on the interwebz (the number from the CR thread is a grand central #)

It's worth a check out... oh and it is free.. and integrates with facebook etc...
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I have it loaded on my iPhone, but haven't used it yet
It's kind of cool.. One of those things that will get better as it's userbase grows..

I installed it and found a buddy of mine from HS was on it (you can let it check your phonebook on the iphone)

I added him and saw he was out in Crown Point.. but the next day I loaded it up to see who else had logged in and saw he was down in the loop..

So in that manner it's kind of cool.. Sitting at your desk you can see that a bud of yours is working a few streets away.. then you can just ping them your location or text them or whatever.. and do lunch ..
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so basically this lets my friends know where i am 24/7? time to get one on the wife's phone.

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so basically this lets my friends know where i am 24/7? time to get one on the wife's phone.
at the most it snapshots where they were when they were last in the app.. and that is obviously lock downable...

So if I look now.. I see one friend was last on yesterday and she was up north by her house.. and another friend was by his house out in indiana at 7:38am...

Who knows where he is now



but like i mentioned to rob.. say he was working downtown for the day.. he could go on there.. and any of his friends in the area could see that as of 11am he was at .. state and wacker... just a way of knowing who is around...

i think you want trackphone or however you spell it.. I saw an ad for them at rat shack the other day
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stalker program.
Kinda. but easily foolable

Load it up at work..then close out-
go to gf's house.. do your business..

then go home or back to work...
if wife checks up.. program says you were last seen at work at xxx time

so you seem more trustworthy

Looks like they are growing fast from those iphone commercials

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I was just telling a friend of mine.. I could see it being a useful tool for motorcyclists...

Say you crash out when you are alone.. you could load it up.. send out a message to your friends.. and that would tell everyone right on their screens exactly where you were.. and if they had iphones give them a google map directly to where you are...

Now.. I imagine your phone might break if you crash.. but.. if it doesn't... It's something..

Takes some of the paranoia out of long distance rides alone I would think...
Just a possible use.. I have always had a slight fear of laying in a ditch for hours in the middle of BFE waiting for help.. or even if you could call.. saying "i am in BFE.. I don't know.. f*ckin trees are all that's around me "
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Looks pretty cool but my Instinct isn't supported yet. Serves me right for staying with Sprint.

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I'm reading the reviews and it looks like there are some major bugs still with the program. It looks like a lot of the problems are people not receiving their SMS messages or receiving spam after they turn off the SMS feature.

I'll wait to DL it until this is fixed.

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don't think anyone i know uses it but it's coming for the G1. just waiting on it at the moment.
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Took screenshots walking back from lunch.. Figured people might be interested in checking it out...

Don't stalk me

BTW.. in regards to the stalker app thing..
Personally it doesn't bother me that people I choose can see where I was when I looked at an app to do that.. I find that interesting... and helpful or useful... The people I wouldn't want to track my every move can.. and there is nothing I can do to stop that.. That bothers me.

In any case.. Here is a screenshot of what it looks like on screen (you see a pushpin for your friends if they are around.. right now nobody is near me.. I'd have to zoom waaay out for that)



and here are the settings





Pretty simple...

I haven't got any spam .. but I have noticed in a few other apps they are riddling the screen with ad's.. I bet that is going to piss apple off.. They make 33% of sales, to have the apps given away and then making money filling the screen with advertisements (of which apple doesn't get shit)...

Apple has this stellar reputation, but when it comes down to it.. Apples mission is to extract as many $$$ bills from your pocket as is possible.. I can't imagine we wont see some updates to the "agreement"
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I have no idea why you would want anyone to know where you are? that program is insane.




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now if i use that program on my BB, will i be able to see iPhone users?

(ps; not putting that shit on my phone, just wondering)

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now if i use that program on my BB, will i be able to see iPhone users?

(ps; not putting that shit on my phone, just wondering)
I think you will see anyone else who has the program regardless of the device they are using.

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Great. I call this program a "relationship killer."

I really don't need to know how often you're at Hooters, or how often you go straight from Hooters to Portillo's. Or how often you take that Portillo's and go sit in front of the high school at lunchtime.
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i dont think people understand what this is.
it only updates your location when you tell it to
it's not a tracking device.

So if you were to load it up at hooters and didnt want anyone to know you were
either dont load it while at hooters
or even if you do
dont have it send the information to that user

basically it puts a geo stamp on the location you were when you published it.. similar to sending out a message saying "i am at work" but without sending the message.. people can just see on a map where you were at the last time you updated your location

It's manual

I think you guys are thinking its more like this
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...4/b3957069.htm
http://www.accutracking.com/
http://www.local6.com/technology/8491160/detail.html
http://www.guardianangeltech.com/

Now thats scary..

Here is PBS's take on it
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/fe.../gps_2-19.html

I have no problem with publishing "kilroy was here" type messages for my friends to see.. Having them be able to triangulate my location any time day or night is a whole different story...

and in regards to privacy?
There is no privacy.
Everything you write on the internet, everywhere you go with a cell phone, every conversation you have on a phone, land or cell is recorded.. every email you send.. Every website you go to.. Everything you do is logged and monitored. The only thing you have going for you is that you are a very small fish in a very big school of fish in a very large ocean... but it's all there.... If anyone ever truly decides to dig.. It's all there...

and that's not paranoia.. That's pretty much just the way it is.. Most of these systems have already been publicly disclosed.. and for the most part the public went "meh"

This is voluntary and you update it as you see fit... It doesn't track your movement.. That's already being done.. You just don't know about it


(not to mention.. most likely your fancy car already has big fat repeated routes to hooters stored in it's memory)
Funny thing is.. about 8 years ago I was sitting in the Cisco offices.. and we were joking that one of the techs theres car had a gps .. which was kind of new at the time.. and if you clicked the log you saw all these lines converging on hooters

Another funny side note.. A few years back I bought a tracking GPS to geotag my photos when I traveled... I brought it into work and I was explaining why I had a tiny gps, with no display.. that had no indication it was doing anything except for a blinking led..) -- I show him a plotted map on google earth of my drive to work... and So my buddy at work goes "let me see that" I say sure and hand it to him.. and he is like "now I know what to look for hidden in my car"

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(not to mention.. most likely your fancy car already has big fat repeated routes to hooters stored in it's memory)
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I really don't need to know how often you're at Hooters, or how often you go straight from Hooters to Portillo's. Or how often you take that Portillo's and go sit in front of the high school at lunchtime.
Yup, sounds like my average day




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i just added myself to loopt on the iphone yesterday...anyone on here wanna sync up? send me a pm...i think it would be cool..

...plus my gf was with me saying "omg slow down, slow down" and I was thinking "Lose annoying squalk box in passenger seat, afford more mods and have less weight in the car and on the back of the bike"...so i dumped her and I'm single again as usual...HERE KITTY KITTY!!!
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Looks like 2.2 includes the main feature of loopt
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Courtney and Heather Kuykendall were harassed by an unknown caller for months.
Courtney and Heather Kuykendall were harassed by an unknown caller for months.
WTHR producer Cyndee Hebert agreed to have her cell phone tapped as part of our experiment.
WTHR producer Cyndee Hebert agreed to have her cell phone tapped as part of our experiment.
A map showed 13 Investigates Cyndee's location - wherever she went with her phone.
A map showed 13 Investigates Cyndee's location - wherever she went with her phone.
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Imagine someone watching your every move, hearing everything you say and knowing where you are at every moment. If you have a cell phone, it could happen to you. 13 Investigates explains how your cell phone can be secretly hijacked and used against you - and how to protect yourself.


After four months of harassing phone calls, Courtney Kuykendall was afraid to answer her cell phone.

The Tacoma, Washington, teenager was receiving graphic, violent threats at all hours.

And when she and her family changed their cell phone numbers and got new phones, the calls continued.

Using deep scratchy voices, anonymous stalkers literally took control of the Kuykendall's cell phones, repeatedly threatened Courtney with murder and rape, and began following the family's every move.

"They're listening to us and recording us," Courtney's mother, Heather Kuykendall, told NBC's Today Show. "We know that because they will record us and play it back as a voicemail."
How is something like this possible?

Just take a look on the internet. That's where you'll find the latest spy technology for cell phones.

"Anywhere, anytime"

Spyware marketers claim you can tap into someone's calls, read their text messages and track their movements "anywhere, anytime." They say you can "catch a cheating spouse", protect your children from an evil babysitter and "hear what your boss is saying about you." And while you're spying on others, the Spyware companies say "no one will ever know" because it's supposed to be "completely invisible" with "absolutely no trace."

Security experts say it's no internet hoax.

"It's real, and it is pretty creepy," said Rick Mislan, a former military intelligence officer who now teaches cyber forensics at Purdue University's Department of Computer and Information Technology.

Mislan has examined thousands of cell phones inside Purdue's Cyber Forensics Lab, and he says spy software can now make even the most high-tech cell phone vulnerable.

"I think a lot of people think their cell phone calls are very secure but our privacy isn't always what we think it is."

Is your privacy truly at risk?

13 Investigates tested some cell phone Spyware to find out.

With the permission of WTHR producer Cyndee Hebert, 13 Investigates purchased and downloaded Spyware on her personal cell phone.

Hebert agreed to be spied on - if the spy software lived up to its bold claims.

WTHR's Spy Test

The process of downloading the software took several attempts and a great deal of patience. But once the spy program was installed, Hebert's phone could indeed be tapped into at any time - just as its distributor promised.

While Hebert was at home making phone calls to her family, investigative reporter Bob Segall was outside her house, listening to the conversations on his cell phone.

And there's more - much more.

Every time Hebert made or received a phone call, Segall received an instant text message, telling him that Hebert was talking on her cell phone so that Segall could call in and listen.

On his computer, Segall also got a copy of Hebert's text messages and a list of phone numbers detailing each incoming and outgoing call to Hebert's cell phone.

And no matter where Hebert went with her phone, Segall received constant satellite updates on her location. He could literally track Hebert anywhere she went.

"It's hard to believe you can do all that," Hebert said when she saw the spy software in action. "I think that's really scary."

It gets even scarier.

When spy software was installed onto Hebert's phone, that phone became an instant spy device - even when the phone was not being used.

As Hebert's cell phone was simply sitting on a table or attached to her purse, Segall could activate the speaker on the phone and secretly listen in to the phone's surroundings. While Hebert was in a meeting on the 36th floor of a downtown Indianapolis building, Segall heard her conversations, even though he was four miles away.

13 Investigates found more than a dozen companies willing to sell this type of cell phone spy software, which ranges in price from $60 to $3,000. The majority of the companies are located in foreign countries such as Thailand, Taiwan and the United Kingdom - and for good reason.

Most of the advertised applications for the spy software are illegal in the United States, and the existence of the software angers CTIA-The Wireless Association, an industry organization representing the nation's major cell phone manufacturers.

"These are gross violations of federal and state laws," said association spokesman Joe Farren. "It's very clear, without their express permission, you can't listen in to someone's phone calls, you cannot read their text messages, you can't track their movements. You can't do any of those things and there are numerous laws being broken."

Farren said his organization was not familiar with cell phone Spyware prior to WTHR's investigation, adding "I can tell you our lawyers and engineers are now looking into this."

Government spying

The United States government is familiar with spy software for cell phones.

In 2003 and 2004, the FBI used cell phone spy software to eavesdrop on the conversations of organized crime families in New York, and it used those conversations in its federal prosecutions.

Private investigator Tim Wilcox says several federal agencies rely on cell phone spying technology to monitor suspected criminals, and he says private citizens are now using the technology, too.

"The technology is there. It's been there a long time. It's accessible, and it's done all the time," Wilcox said.

As founder of Indianapolis-based International Investigators Inc., Wilcox says he receives daily letters and e-mails from people wanting help with "cell phone bugging," the ability to download spy software onto a cell phone, turning it into a secret listening device.

"There's only two kinds of people," Wilcox said, holding a large stack of e-mails. "One wants to bug somebody and the other has been bugged and wants to know how it's being done and how to find out and how to stop it.... it's a federal crime, but it's still happening."

The harassment eventually did stop for the Kuykendalls, but only after they brought in police and the FBI. While authorities never figured out who hijacked the family's cell phones, security experts say the case serves as a powerful lesson for others.

"Your privacy is not your privacy. It is exposed and it is exploited," Mislan said. "The key is being vigilant and knowing how to protect yourself.

How to protect yourself

Mislan suggests keeping a close eye on your cell phone so that others never get an opportunity to download information such as spy software onto your phone. He also says it's important to install a security password on your phone to restrict anyone else from using it.

And while some Spyware marketers claim their products can be used on any make and model of cell phone, Mislan says high-end cell phones that include internet access and online capability are particularly vulnerable to Spyware tapping.

Wilcox recommends removing the battery from your cell phone when it's not being used and, for sensitive phone calls, he suggests making them on a newly-purchased cell phone that comes with a pre-paid month-to-month service plan.

Based on WTHR's test, here are some subtle signs that could suggest your cell phone is being secretly tapped:

- Cell phone battery is warm even when your phone has not been used
- Cell phone lights up at unexpected times, including occasions when phone is not in use
- Unexpected beep or click during phone conversation
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I have it and it's pretty cool. You have to be logged on to Loopt for people to see you, otherwise they see the last location you were at. You can also block certain as seen before. You can actually have it give you directions to other loopt friends.

Kind of a gimmack program IMO.




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you guys are so farking paranoid, try the program before you go yelling that the sky is falling.

its just a silly portable facebook app for mobiles.

I gots it for my G1 and think its pretty fun.

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I use it with some friends and family. It is not 24/7 current GPS locations, you have to open the program to let your friends know where you are and type in info and a pic if you want them know what you are doing.

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looks like google just jumped in with both feet on the loopt bandwagon...
I haven't played with the google thing.. I wonder how it will do

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I haven't used loopt in a while.. but we should add each other... if for no other reason than to see if our crazy asses can find each other on a frozen lake in the middle of cedar tucky using nothing but loopt hahah
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I heard on the radio the other day, there is a college in Californa that wrote and gave out a similiar program for free. They are trying to use it to help with highway traffic information.

In Japan, they are adding "credit chips" that ties the users phone to his bank account, as well as tracks where they are. So they can go out without cash on them, and still pay for the bus, know where friends are and meet up, and then pay for dinner just by swiping their phone over a sensor at the register.

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