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Anyone work with Tungsten Jewelry?

I'm in need of some work done, and I'm having trouble finding someone with imagination to pull off what should be some easy work.

Anyone here work with Tungsten, or know someone who works with Tungsten, preferrably with a nickle binder?

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I sold Tungsten Carbide jewelry for years (pretty sure that's what you're talking about), never came across anyone who did any sort of repair work or modifications after the initial casting/forging. I have a feeling you're going to find this a very difficult proposition. You might have some luck finding a Jewelry (Art Dept.) professor at COD or something and ask them. Good luck with this, I'm curious to see what you have in mind!

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Give Edmond @ Naperville Jewelers a call. If he doesn't do it, he may know someone else who does.

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Thanks, Arch, that's a start!

EDIT: Sorry Smart, I didn't see your post. Thanks for that idea as well.

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my wedding ring is made out of it.. wanted something i couldnt break.. figured tungsten would last longer than the finger it is attached to...

that said, its some pretty hard stuff.. I thought it was cast.. and then polished.. not a lot of bending it around and such like you can with gold or platinum...

btw.. my ring has a pmd coating on it ( so.. in ducati terms.. it's "megacycled" ) (black) and it still looks brand new.. it's the only piece of jewelry i havent destroyed in little to no time
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Tungsten is brittle as shit.

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tungsten wont be easy for whomever wants to work with it, its got one of the highest melting points available

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I thought that Tungsten was machined...if it's forged, then I might be screwed.

Long story short...it looks like Brianne and I are finally getting hitched (after a long engagement). We both love alternative metals, and I beat the snot out of any jewelry (Which is why I wear none at all). So I've designed his and hers wedding bands, I just need to find someone to actually make them! (I also designed her engagement ring and picked the stone, so it's 100% custom)

I'm also having lots of trouble even finding tungsten in size 5 for Brianne, let alone anything custom.

We were originally thinking titanium, but we fell in love with tungsten. And titanium scratches easer than I realized.

As for tungsten being brittle...that depends on it's mix. Pure tungsten is brittle, so it's often mixed with cobalt...which doesn't make for hypoallergenic jewelry. So the better quality, jewelry grade tungsten is typically mixed with a Nickel or Stainless binder with a high percentage of Wolfram (the element that is Tungsten).

Yes, I've researched the snot out of this, as I do most everything.

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I thought that Tungsten was machined...if it's forged, then I might be screwed.

Long story short...it looks like Brianne and I are finally getting hitched (after a long engagement). We both love alternative metals, and I beat the snot out of any jewelry (Which is why I wear none at all). So I've designed his and hers wedding bands, I just need to find someone to actually make them! (I also designed her engagement ring and picked the stone, so it's 100% custom)

I'm also having lots of trouble even finding tungsten in size 5 for Brianne, let alone anything custom.

We were originally thinking titanium, but we fell in love with tungsten. And titanium scratches easer than I realized.

As for tungsten being brittle...that depends on it's mix. Pure tungsten is brittle, so it's often mixed with cobalt...which doesn't make for hypoallergenic jewelry. So the better quality, jewelry grade tungsten is typically mixed with a Nickel or Stainless binder with a high percentage of Wolfram (the element that is Tungsten).

Yes, I've researched the snot out of this, as I do most everything.
i considered a tungsten ring when I got married. One thing to consider, is that if you are ever in the ER and they need to cut your ring off, with Tungsten or Carbide, they can't. you will lose the finger. Between Motorcycles, and other things, I work with my hands and the possability of a broken finger that causes swelling is to high for me to risk having something on it that would cost my finger. I went with yellow gold and it's help up very well.

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i considered a tungsten ring when I got married. One thing to consider, is that if you are ever in the ER and they need to cut your ring off, with Tungsten or Carbide, they can't. you will lose the finger. Between Motorcycles, and other things, I work with my hands and the possability of a broken finger that causes swelling is to high for me to risk having something on it that would cost my finger. I went with yellow gold and it's help up very well.
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I called a two ERs and they said they were prepared to take off any sort of ring from any sort of material.

Defib works in ER, hopefully she can chime in on what they have and can do.

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FALSE.

I called a two ERs and they said they were prepared to take off any sort of ring from any sort of material.

Defib works in ER, hopefully she can chime in on what they have and can do.
this is good to know. The jewelery sales person that I spoke to told me that was the case. At the time, I had no reason not to believe her.

I'm glad you have researched this more then I did, because I really liked the look of the tungsten / carbide type jewlery.

Another place to check is Windy City Jewelery. its in jewelers row. I worked with a guy named Jim Hansen. He made my ring as well as my wife's wedding band. I don't know if they do anything with alternative metals, but they do alot of custom stuff, it was also a pleasure to work with him.

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I thought that Tungsten was machined...if it's forged, then I might be screwed.

Long story short...it looks like Brianne and I are finally getting hitched (after a long engagement). We both love alternative metals, and I beat the snot out of any jewelry (Which is why I wear none at all). So I've designed his and hers wedding bands, I just need to find someone to actually make them! (I also designed her engagement ring and picked the stone, so it's 100% custom)

I'm also having lots of trouble even finding tungsten in size 5 for Brianne, let alone anything custom.

We were originally thinking titanium, but we fell in love with tungsten. And titanium scratches easer than I realized.

As for tungsten being brittle...that depends on it's mix. Pure tungsten is brittle, so it's often mixed with cobalt...which doesn't make for hypoallergenic jewelry. So the better quality, jewelry grade tungsten is typically mixed with a Nickel or Stainless binder with a high percentage of Wolfram (the element that is Tungsten).

Yes, I've researched the snot out of this, as I do most everything.

I believe it is cast not forged.. and as was stated earlier it's melting point is ridiculously high.. So most custom jewelers capable of melting down gold.. will not be able to melt it to work with it (i think its close to 3k degrees)

There are a # of styles.. out there if you look on the internet..

Custom is going to be hard .. most of what I saw were cast in China.. and they would have to make custom forms for the work..

That said, from the level of research you have done.. I imagine you know all of this already.. So I will just stop

Mine was just bought off the internet.. Wifes was custom designed and made.. but hers is gold
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FALSE.

I called a two ERs and they said they were prepared to take off any sort of ring from any sort of material.

Defib works in ER, hopefully she can chime in on what they have and can do.

what if they don't have a good enough blade to cut the material? And do they have an experience with top secret aircraft metal? Dat shiet can't be cut.
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I know nothing about jewelry, but I do know machining tungsten = PITA

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what if they don't have a good enough blade to cut the material? And do they have an experience with top secret aircraft metal? Dat shiet can't be cut.
Most of them are notched so they can be cut.
To be honest.. I don't see a notch on mine.. but that's ok with me.. they can just take the finger and put it back on later

and... where do you buy your shit? it seems to work really.. really well..
"top secret aircraft metal" ??

More like.. Strong saw tooth material on good saw blades material.. uh.. I mean top secret saw blade tip material
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Yeah, I said forged, I meant casted.

Darkside, you have access to some materials and can machine me a ring?

I had a friend that had some bolts and washers from a material he said was nicknamed "super-tanium". Each and every BOLT and WASHER had a serial number!

And this stuff was lighter than aluminum! It was crazy.

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I thought they break titanium rather than try cutting it, since it doesn't really bend, it breaks easier than trying to cut.

Our rings are simple bands, mine's a 5 1/2 - they're from Art Carved, although I'm not really happy with the finish since the hub's is dull already and mine does have scratches. Good thing there's a warranty, and I'm pretty sure we can have them replaced because that's not supposed to happen. We're pretty hard on stuff though. I'm guessing his got wrecked with brake cleaner.

From what I've seen, most jewelers don't have the tools to work with it, and since it's cast, and its makeup - you can't get really intricate shapes or forms out of it, so you probably wont find anyone to do custom work. I've done a little jewelry metalsmithing, and in the tool catalogs and design mags, I've never even seen much information.

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I thought they break titanium rather than try cutting it, since it doesn't really bend, it breaks easier than trying to cut.
That's what I heard as well for both Titanium and Tungsten, but both ERs didn't get into specifics and simply repeated "don't worry, we can handle those no problem". Since both places said that, I have a feeling they aren't allowed to specify details for some reason.



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Our rings are simple bands, mine's a 5 1/2 - they're from Art Carved, although I'm not really happy with the finish since the hub's is dull already and mine does have scratches. Good thing there's a warranty, and I'm pretty sure we can have them replaced because that's not supposed to happen. We're pretty hard on stuff though. I'm guessing his got wrecked with brake cleaner.
I wanted Titanium originally, and I know shops that work in Titanium, but as you said it does start to fog up from scratches and scuffs. So I'd have to get a lifetime warranty. The Tungsten on the other hand is pretty much impervious to scratches. It's the strongest metal out there, and is more like stone than metal actually. Besides, I like the heft of the Tungsten over Titanium...it just feels more substantial.

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Oops, I meant tungsten.

Our rings are tungsten, and they are scratched. Mine's still shiny, and you have to look pretty close to see the scratches. My husband is a machinist, and his is dull after about a year of wearing - either from something at work, or the aforementioned brake cleaner. The first set of rings we had actually seemed better. We had them for a year, but were sized for our middle fingers since we didn't tell anyone we got married. After we announced it, we traded them for new ones to fit our ring fingers - which is what we have now.

It's definitely more durable than other metals for sure. I've got a couple white gold rings that are beat to shit, and my stainless steel watch is a mess.

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Found a video on how tungsten rings are removed in an emergency situation. The finger is not cut off but i know why emergency rooms are less then eager to telling your how they do it.

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Found a video on how tungsten rings are removed in an emergency situation. The finger is not cut off but i know why emergency rooms are less then eager to telling your how they do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poM423pewRE
Yeah like I said really brittle. Anyone that tig welds will tell you this and the welding tungstens are alloyed also but they still snap like twigs with a sharp blow.

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I have a WC ring as well, I'm an enginerd, so I had to get something different, plus I'm really rough on shit. Anyway, about the ER thing, most ER's have been equipped with the proper tools to remove any ring, even WC. Also, it can be "broken" off by squeezing it with vice grips...it will fracture into pieces. (it does not deform b4 cracking, so no, it won't squeeze your finger if they did this)

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Yeah like I said really brittle. Anyone that tig welds will tell you this and the welding tungstens are alloyed also but they still snap like twigs with a sharp blow.
One might assume that welding is one of those things that is a bit more rigorous than your average persons finger could stand. I know with a gold band on my finger I can grab a steel pipe and it will flatten out where it hits... Not so with the tungsten... I dont seem to have the grip strength to break it (although it probably hurts a bit more than a gold one, as it isn't going anywhere)

Mine has been scraped on brick walls, i have worked on any # of things.. diving in the ocean.. any # of standard stuff.. and doesn't have a mark on it.. I have no doubt that a machinist would run his through more than I do.. but personally.. no complaints so far...

Also, earlier I stated it was a PMD coating.. It appears it's PVD.. Oops

As a side note most places offer lifetime guarantees.. It's not exactly a very expensive metal (compared to gold or platinum for sure).. and it is VERY strong compared to everything else out there..

MM.. if tungsten is not a good choice for durability.. What is?

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Tungsten itself is strong and durable. You can't bend it or crush it. Its strength is 3 times more rigid than steel, 4 times greater than titanium, and an amazing 10 times that of gold. But most important Tungsten is a beautiful metal. The color is a medium light gray.
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How do we create the unique two tone black designs? We start with solid tungsten comfort-fit wedding rings and then add the black coating through a black Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) coating process. PVD is a vacuum-process technology of physically coating materials onto substrates. PVD coated films have high hardness, high wearing resistance, good corrosion resistance, chemical stability, and longer lifetime. PVD coatings are also hypo-allergenic and non-toxic. Black tungsten shows little to no wear. Over time or in the presence of increased friction or abrasion, the black coating may fade.
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Yeah like I said really brittle. Anyone that tig welds will tell you this and the welding tungstens are alloyed also but they still snap like twigs with a sharp blow.
Yeah, I TIG weld, they are brittle as shit. But the electrodes are also 98-100% pure (for steel you use 2% thoriated, aluminum you use pure W), the rings are alloyed so thier not quite as brittle.

I ran my ring back and forth over rough concrete and it does not have a mark on it...

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Last edited by Pinto Bean; 11-24-2008 at 02:34 PM.
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