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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 11-25-2008, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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This is just wrong...

Ok, I think designer doggies has taken a downward slope even further...

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$800 for a mixed breed. Rediculous. Head to the local pound please.

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I've heard of labradoodles and other mixes going for 1k and more.

I totally agree please adopt a dog from the pound.

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I think there was an article about those allergy free dogs to be bullshit anyway. Adopt one from a shelter. These pet stores and breeders are ridiculous. Pay a crapload of money for a dog that is so inbred that you have to spend thousands more on medical bills.

People take these things too seriously!
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I payed quite a bit for my Shiba. I got her at petland which I no doubt has a good markup. However with how old she was most of her shots were already taken care of and so was the first vet visit(all built into the price I'm sure). I was given the breeder's name along with the mother and father. I also bought their starter kit for the dogs.

I would have gone to a pound, but when I was looking there were no puppies. Plus I was looking for a specific bread. I see nothing wrong with buying from a legitimate breeder but I do encourage all to at least look at the pounds first.

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Brrr this one is ugly. Some of those mix dog are really expansive.
Most of the time those mix dog are more healthy than pure breed dogs.
Recently we got a puppy. It's a Schnoodle.
We where looking at the shelters but there didn't had one.
Paid $350, same amount we would pay for a dog from the shelter.

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It is a real shame when breeds are over bread, it takes a very long time to correct the correct the lineage.

As far as getting dogs from shelter or a rescue, I am 100% supportive; however, the red tape sometimes hurts those animals.

Before I purchased my boy, I went to the Evanston shelter and spoke with the people there. They did not let me walk around and see if any of the dogs appealed to me, instead they made me sit in a rooma and brought dog to me that they thought would be good for me. Did not work out well, as a couple of them I found appealing, but did not have the right feeling about them either. Since I did not have experience raising a dog, they did not want to show/give me a puppy. I thanked them for their time and walked out empty handed.

Disapointed with the experience, I started doing research online and found that I liked Samoyeds. I checked with a few pet shops, but noone had them. So I found a Samoyed rescue. The process for adopting was very involved, but I put in an application and waited. Over six months later, I still did not hear back from the rescue. On a pure coincidence, I found an ad in the Tribune from a Samoyed breeder, down by Champagne. Made an appointment and that weekend I got to chose from Comet and his five sisters. Cost me $400, but that was 7 years ago. Now for the point of my story, when Comet was 5 months old, I got a call from the Samoyed rescue. As much as I would have loved to take in another dog, I just was not living in a place that could accomodate two dogs.

Sorry for my long ramble, just wanted to make a point that the procedures at the shelters/rescue, as well intended as they may be, turn off many people who would love to provide these dogs with loving homes.

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I agree, sometimes the shelters and rescues can cause alot of headaches, the ones I work with included. Nonetheless, IMO shelters and pounds can be the best bet as far as saving lives and most rescues/shelters will NOT adopt out without the animal being fully vetted and altered. When you add it all up, the end justifies the means.

Not many people are aware of this but for just about every breed out there, a rescue exists. It's like an underground railroad transport/network. There could be the perfect pup in CA (For example) and some rescues will start the ball rolling to bring it here to you. Kinda like a Carmax but for Canines LOL...

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its $350 to get a dog from a shelter these days?? are you kidding me????

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i have two dogs, one from a home breeder and another from a pound. My 3YO golden is from a breeder and she was instantly comfortable with people, dogs, home setting from day one, she has been a wonderful dog. My 9MO black lab mix came from a very nice shelter. He was shy around people, and much more geared towards dog contact, then people contact. I think this has something to do with the fact that he had ALOT of dog interaction and not enough people interaction as a new puppy, vs my golden retriever that was hand raised.

The golden was 100% healthy when we got her back from the vet, the Black lab had worms and something that gave him Diearehia. He is healthy now and fine, but he had extra vet bills when we brought him home.

The point I am trying to make is, that don't discount home breaders, know all of your options when you decide to add a pet to your family. If you think $600 is alot for your dog, think very seriously about dog ownership. Vet Bills, food, cleaning up, damage from chewing, dogs are expensive to have around. Granted, the joy I get from my dogs FAR exceeds the expense that they are, and I would spend every dollar that I have (all 3 of them) to keep them healthy and happy.

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its $350 to get a dog from a shelter these days?? are you kidding me????
my black lab was $200 for the rescue donation. Add that to the initial vet bill (since he needed drugs and what not)

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Just foster one from an emergency rescue... pay the costs incurred (usually specific verifiable vet fees).. and when they ask for the additional $$ to 'adopt' it tell them they can take the dog back and refund your money.

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Just foster one from an emergency rescue... pay the costs incurred (usually specific verifiable vet fees).. and when they ask for the additional $$ to 'adopt' it tell them they can take the dog back and refund your money.

Enjoy your new cheap pet.

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If I could have rescued a russian blue kitten in our area, I would have but couldn't find one and had a heck of a time finding a breeder in the area. We were gonna go all the way to Colorado for one thankfully we found a small breeder in outside of LA. We needed it to be as hypoallergenic as possible without being a $4,000 designer cat.

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I have news for you... the rescues I work with are NOT in it for the money and most are BROKE.

So the angle..... sux

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I have news for you... the rescues I work with are NOT in it for the money and most are BROKE.

So the angle..... sux
No, the angle of making it be a 'fee' ON TOP of already doing someone a favor sucks. When asked if I could pay some money to help cover the costs incurred during the rescue I gladly did that along with a $300 'donation' to said rescue group. Did that suck too?

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i would never go to a breeder. I know there are good ones out there, but i have always adopted my pets and i have always been more than pleased!!! As for the paper work and time it takes, yes it can be extensive but there are good rescues and shelters out there....with my last pup i saw her on a fri evening and came back sat morn cuz she was just spayed and brought her home saturday. She was 250$ but spayed and had all of her first shots plus deworming as most puppies have worms. She was microchipped and 6 months with home again for free...also 30 days of free health insurance. So yeah 250 is quite a bit of money but i got a 99% purebred lab who needed a good home. Was just at the shelter today lookin for a brother or sister for her am also looking at rescues

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We got our dog, took him to the vet and he's healthy.
350$ and 1 year warranty, I know sounds funny but those people take them very serious.
My neighbor got the pet from the shelter.
Very nice dog, donation 250$ + 900$ vet bill to get her healthy. Sometimes you lucky sometimes your not.

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I think what is most important is not where you get the animal but how you treat it. I will not down anyone for where they purchase or how much they pay for their pet as long as they give it a good home.

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I think what is most important is not where you get the animal but how you treat it. I will not down anyone for where they purchase or how much they pay for their pet as long as they give it a good home.
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I would not pay 800$ for a dog, doesn't matter what is it.
There is a lady at work she got a Yorkie and paid 1800$.
She is treating that dog like a prince. Crazyyyy.

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before i got thor, i was trying to get an akita...went to M.A.R.S. (midwest akita rescue society) and filled out all the paperwork and was looking for a pup to 15 months old...even went to one of thier shelters and met a pup and an older male dog...

then the bomb hits...they refused to give me a dog....and get this...BECAUSE I WAS SINGLE...i was like "HUH?! that makes zero sense...please explain"

they stated the didnt believe a SINGLE male would take the time to train the dog correctly...and man did i fly off the handle at these moterfuckers...i stated to them that me marital status should have nothing to do with me being able to adopt a dog, and if anything it should only benefit me MORE...reason why is how many familys do you know that have at least 1 kid that have to manage thier time between thier wves/husbands, then their kids, then any household work, then running said child back and forth to what ever extra crap that kid may do like baseball, or footbal or soccer or whatever...

i, as a single guy, have the TIME and ABILITY to fully train a puppy (which i did with thor) and am more then willing to devote time to the animal to give it the attention it needs...unlike a family for the above reasons i mentioned...so i went out to a the local papers and found thor available...bought him at the parents owners house up in gurnee area...found the parent dogs completely trained and people friendly...then after thier 5 year old grandson went and stood on the male adult dogs tail
and the dog didnt even move, i went "GREAT DISPOSITION!!! , GIVE ME THAT ONE" and hense forth i have had thor since...shelters piss me off with thier attitudes sometimes, and i will attempt in looking at adopting another dog when thor passes on, but thats still a few years away...if i was to get another dog, akitas have issues with dogs smaller then them cause they consider them prey, and they dont like the same sex near them cause the alpha male issues pop up, so it would have to be a female if i did get another dog while thor is still around...

...plus my gf was with me saying "omg slow down, slow down" and I was thinking "Lose annoying squalk box in passenger seat, afford more mods and have less weight in the car and on the back of the bike"...so i dumped her and I'm single again as usual...HERE KITTY KITTY!!!
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I would pay 5K for a good dog, but not to a breeder.
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+1 for shelter dogs.

My sister loves telling the story when she went to the pound looking for a mother's day present and grabbed the dog that was cowering in the corner not barking constantly.

Long story short, the one she took home is one of the sweetest dogs you'll ever meet and I miss her terribly living half a country away.
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We paid way too much for our Black Lab in 2005. He was from Cricket Hollow out by Galva, IL. It's nice knowing his certified bloodlines back to the 1800s, but he's really just a family house dog. Not some showdog or hunting dog. Besides, if we were to show him or breed him, then the breeder would get all the credit or something as per the adoption agreement.

Our German Shepherd was free from a farming family in Eastern Indiana. That evened it out. Kinda.
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People that pay a grand for a dog are nuts... UNLESS maybe it's their business like they show them or something.

But for a good family dog that has an easy and spoiled life, paying that much is just insane - especially those little hyper ankle biters.

I got my purebred choc. lab from a farm in Iowa (breeder, but not primary source of income) and he was $300. Overall he's been pretty healthy - and the disposition couldn't be better.

My little girl (who'll be 1 this Friday) walks up to him as he sits there, panting away... and just repeatedly smacks him in the face/jaw... and he just takes it. I break them up if she continues after a couple of slaps... the only thing I do is keep her away while he's eating/drinking. No issues ever seen but I don't want to find out the hard way.
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Izzy was like 1200$ at Petland..
I felt insulted...
She is half Border Collie / Chinese Shar pei...
They called her a designer breed...
I had never paid for a dog before (My mom bred yorkies when I was a kid.. I had my little dog from 4 to 23 years old.. Izzy is the first dog I have had since)

So... I paid the money.. feeling sick that I was supporting that horrible puppy farm business... but knowing I was saving a really sweet dog.. That my fiance to be was head over heels in love with (and I quote) "if you buy me this dog.. you don't even have to buy me a ring"

So we bought the dog... got a bit of a discount (i think asking was 1600 if I remember correctly... buddy of mine is the manager of the fish side of the shop) ....

and I proceeded to see how dog ownership.. Even when you pay >1000 for the dog... purchasing the dog is by far the cheapest part...

Little girl has more toys than I do.
Eats well.
Has at least 4 beds setup in the house..
and has racked up medical bills.. that are out of this world (5 figures)


last thought.. if my lil izz is a designer breed... and cost so much (Why does it now cost extra to get dogs of different breeds to screw? we used to call them mutts.. and they were cheap to free.. times change)
Why doesn't she have a cutesy wootsy name...
like shit-poo or poo-shits... or labradoodle.. or puggle...

collie pei?
shar collie?
border pei?
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Borcolchipei? Sounds exotic.

We paid a stack for our Cane Corso puppy from a friend/customer/new breeder and got a very good deal based on what these dogs go for. A lot depends on what breed you are looking for. I know I originally wanted a Rott, but trying to find one of those in a puppy from a shelter is hard.

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