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RC Planes, suggestion for a beginner plane??

After seeing a post for this a-10 RC plane for $78, figured it'd be something fun to do. Think this would work pretty well as a beginner plane? Are there any others I should consider looking at?


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Some Specs:
Wingspan: 872mm (34.5")
Length: 968mm (38")
Flying Weight: 450g (16 oz)
Drive System: Twin 370 ducted fan motors
Speed Controller: 25A speed controller
Servo: 3x10g
Battery: 8.4 V 650mah Ni-MH
Control system: 4 CH Multifunctional Radio Transmitter and Micro Receiver
Radio Control Range: > 1000 feet (300m)
Apparently you can 'swap out the 650NIHM pack for a three cell 1300 lipo made a whole new airplane out of it', flies faster and longer than the original pack would. Figured I could learn with it slower, and upgrade to the bigger battery pack later.


Is it hard/pricey to mount a wireless camera? That would be pretty cool with a jet r/c, as long as it didn't lag too much that is :P

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$78 for the plane, $975 for the remote.
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$78 for the plane, $975 for the remote.
The kit he linked to comes with the transmitter. It is ready to fly.

As far as a camera, not on that plane. Too small. The extra weight of the camera would be too much. You would need something bigger with more power to use a cam.

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Ive been flying rc planes since 2002 or so

there wont be any turbine lag in powering up adn down with these as its is an electric motor that basically spins a fan blade in a tube making an electric ducted fam(EDF)

there are numerous things with that plane that disqualify it as a beginner/trainer
1)low wing
2)EDF type planes require much higher flight speeds
3)its foam, and repairs when you crash are hard
4)an instructior cant use a buddy box to help you
5)too small, the smaller the plane the faster it is perceived to fly by your mind, youll quickly get overwhelmed
6)too light, 16 oz will get tossed around in wind like a leaf

I have a trainer and the instructor system adn do fly during the winter as would be happy to take you up weather permitting. its far more fun to fly when its warm out, i had thin fleecy gloves on today when i took the trainer out the finger control gets a little vague in these temps especially after a while outside

in snowy weather with heavy gloved on it becones a totally visual task as you can no longer feel the control sticks on the transmitter, but flying with skis is fun so its worth the added risk/attention


as for adding a camera.. nope too small no payload room in the flight configuration

I have a camera on one of my planes, the ready to fly weight is 5lbs without camera adn the cam probably adds about 3-4 oz with its battery and mounting.

again though id be happy to take you up,no cost no $$ risk to you if it crashes(hence the instructor system).

Ill start flying again once the fields are unfloooded and its warm enough to stand out there comfortably(bike adn plane season are strikingly similar adn compete heavily for the same weather/time)


as for suggestions, how serious are you about gettin into the hobby?

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yeah here is my advise.

dont start, ive spent over 10k between cars, planes and helicopters EASILY!!!

the only thing ive enjoyed the most afyer crashing and repairing and is practical any time is my indoor eflite CX2 blade heli!



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Pilotx1 is dead on with all of his info. If you are serious on getting into the hobby you should get a quality rtf setup with a nice high wing cesenna.
It will be way more forgiving. Like Ken mentioned too, it is addictive and pricey. That being said, the world of RC is a blast and like riding, you meet a great bunch of people who are always willing to lend a hand or tools to help you out.
Something like this would be something to get started on the cheap:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL2725

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Visit your local hobby shop they will be far more helpful then an online sales forum.

http://www.venturehobbies.com

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yeah here is my advise.

dont start, ive spent over 10k between cars, planes and helicopters EASILY!!!

the only thing ive enjoyed the most afyer crashing and repairing and is practical any time is my indoor eflite CX2 blade heli!
its easy to get that deep into it is also easy to spend far far less
over the years ive owned 5 planes all with about 60" windspans ive got far far less than 5k into it all and thats spread oyut over about 5 years of flying
initial outlay for a good quality setup will be about 500
initial 300 for this:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXMU53**&P=7

Mine:


a good second plane this one has a camera under the canopy:



200 for the field gear that makes it usable:
igniter, engine starter, fuel, pump , spare glow plugs and a tote to keep it all in.

heres my setup:






it takes me about 5 minutes to get everythign loaded into my(honda prelude) car to go flying as well





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Pilotx1 is dead on with all of his info. If you are serious on getting into the hobby you should get a quality rtf setup with a nice high wing cesenna.
It will be way more forgiving. Like Ken mentioned too, it is addictive and pricey. That being said, the world of RC is a blast and like riding, you meet a great bunch of people who are always willing to lend a hand or tools to help you out.
Something like this would be something to get started on the cheap:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL2725

good luck.

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that plane is still foam. the advantage of wood construction is its ease of repair, as well as its relative durability.

the above avistar is the same price and is an industry standard in both equipment and usage

even with my experience, i still own one, actually my second one. very verstaile plane with a light wing loading.

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Visit your local hobby shop they will be far more helpful then an online sales forum.

http://www.venturehobbies.com

venture is a great place, i shop there almost exclusively, and they know me by name

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venture is a great place, i shop there almost exclusively, and they know me by name
I worked there for the better part of 15 years. My Dad still currently works there in the plane department. Taller old bald guy, Doug.

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I worked there for the better part of 15 years. My Dad still currently works there in the plane department. Taller old bald guy, Doug.
i know him, when did you leave? we probably know each other

was there last night too picked up a new engine for the avistar the one i got with the avistar when i bought it used has finally given signs of death adn i hated it from the start anyways

i was pretty big into the rc cars about 7 years ago and have transitioned into planes and dabble in helis and cars still

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Listen to PilotX1- he definitely knows his stuff when it comes to R/C.

You might also want to look at getting one of those simulators first- the one that looks like an R/C transmitter with a USB cord that plugs into your computer.

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Listen to PilotX1- he definitely knows his stuff when it comes to R/C.

You might also want to look at getting one of those simulators first- the one that looks like an R/C transmitter with a USB cord that plugs into your computer.
a good sim will run ya 200, but crashing is free adn repairs are instant, just press the space bar

ive got realflight G4 they have G4.5 out now
its kept me sharp enough after almost 2 summers of not flying to be comfortable flying an entire flight inverted yesterday on the avistar

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i have already built an r/c plane from a box of wood before and learned how to fly it. it was a long time ago but my 78 dollar investment should be pretty safe. i have spent more money on a bad meal before, i am not too worried about the cost. the only other thing i would buy for it would be a bigger battery. if you watch the video of the f-4 you will see the plane takes a beating and is fine.

with that being said, any time you want to invite me flying i am in.
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I have a plane that I should take pictures, and post for sale or trade. Never really cared after I bought it. It is a great trainer, but it sure as heck isn't in the $78 category.

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I'm not a fan of rc plains but I like a helicopters.
I don't know how hard is to fly a plain but helicopters
are kind of tricky. I bet you will like that hobby.

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i have already built an r/c plane from a box of wood before and learned how to fly it. it was a long time ago but my 78 dollar investment should be pretty safe. i have spent more money on a bad meal before, i am not too worried about the cost. the only other thing i would buy for it would be a bigger battery. if you watch the video of the f-4 you will see the plane takes a beating and is fine.

with that being said, any time you want to invite me flying i am in.
call me old school but the only foam plane I have liked was my Zagi 3C combat slope glider, it was made of EPP foam and had carbon fibre spars.
absolutely un-killaboe but epp is overly flexible and would not be suitable for a powered plane


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I have a plane that I should take pictures, and post for sale or trade. Never really cared after I bought it. It is a great trainer, but it sure as heck isn't in the $78 category.
post em up, im usually in the market if the deals are good


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I'm not a fan of rc plains but I like a helicopters.
I don't know how hard is to fly a plain but helicopters
are kind of tricky. I bet you will like that hobby.
Helis... best analogy i can give for flying one is balance a broomstick on the back of your hand while walking around with it. takes constant attention to keep it in the air adn stable. planes give you more of a cushin and you can glance away givine the right flight attitude

i love em but they are a lot like rc cars adn suck a lot more money to keep running that a standard plane

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I have a used RealFlight G4 simulator for sale, $150. Great for beginners to learn how to fly before you buy. PM if you are interested


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