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Hello all:

Looking for some local motorcycle wrenchers to hang out with and learn from. Been riding a few years and can work on the basics...just looking to expand my knowledge.

Sport bikes, cruisers, enduros...love them all. Personally, I've been riding sport bikes and enduros.

Wrenching on a bike...need a hand or don't mind a watchful eye? I'd love to join...help if possible...and supply the beer!
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It would be nice to do the MMI thing, but not local and $$$. Love to ride, would like to learn more from both a customization and mechanical standpoint. Also, just started getting into metal working...tried to post a picture, but apparently "you are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 15 posts or more".
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I do all my wrenching on my cars/bikes (they never go to mechanics). I'm thinking of doing a spring wrenching session in the NW burbs at my house. Details will be posted in the future.
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Spent all day working on my F2 and '89 FZR 600. One is all good and ready to ride.

The other

I got it in pieces. Someone cross threaded a spark plug. It didn't have plugs when I got it. I thought the compression sounded funny when I hit the starter. The fuel pump is bad. I'm sure the carbs probably need cleaning.

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Spent all day working on my F2 and '89 FZR 600. One is all good and ready to ride.

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I got it in pieces. Someone cross threaded a spark plug. It didn't have plugs when I got it. I thought the compression sounded funny when I hit the starter. The fuel pump is bad. I'm sure the carbs probably need cleaning.
I've got the 10mm thread puller you need. works without removing the head.

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I've got the 10mm thread puller you need. works without removing the head.
Hearing such a thing exists makes me very very happy!

Is it different then a normal tap?

What would it take to borrow it for 60 seconds

Are they hard to find or expensive. If you need it once, you'll probably need it twice.

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I've got the 10mm thread puller you need. works without removing the head.
Gus...you're everywhere!

I'm working on the gasket for the FZR now. I just found out my cousin's baby shower is on the 21st...so I'll have to make it over there bright and early the following Sat instead.

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ntschicago,
(and anyone else who is interested) Check out www.ChiVinMoto.com. It's an email group of motorcycle people that network info about mostly vintage bikes (Your Dr 650 and tt600 fit in nicely + the best bikes to learn mechanics on), but all are included. They have weekly get togethers and tech sessions and other rides and events and they are NOT a club. Similar in some ways to CLSB and different in others.
Another thing to check out is http://www.dansmc.com/MC_repaircourse.htm. It is a basic course in motorcycle mechaics on the web. The author has some religious messages included, but if you're not interested in that, just skip over it and learn from the excellent info on basic MC mechanics.
Two tips... a good mechanis ALWAYS has GOOD tools and a good mechanic NEVER borrows a tool...when he (or she) needs a tool he doesn't have, he buys it...that way, he'll have it the next time he needs it! It's how you build up an extensive tool box painlessly!

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Thanks!

That site was already on my favorites...very good stuff! Also want to get more of the hands on experience as well

I will definitely check out ChiVinMoto.com too.

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Hearing such a thing exists makes me very very happy!

Is it different then a normal tap?

What would it take to borrow it for 60 seconds

Are they hard to find or expensive. If you need it once, you'll probably need it twice.
Yes it's the coolest thing the inside is tapperd so the threaded outside will colapse for installation then once inside the hole it screws tight expanding. the whole tool is then unscrewed pulling the bad thread outbound .

K/D tools (back tap)

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I do all my wrenching on my cars/bikes (they never go to mechanics). I'm thinking of doing a spring wrenching session in the NW burbs at my house. Details will be posted in the future.
+1 on the wrenching myself.

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Same here, I can do the basic stuff. Half of the stuff I learn after messing something up. Case in point, I unbolted a oil line to get to my oil filter, and when I rebolted it to aluminum case I had the torque wrench on ft/lb instead of Newton Meters. Well, my heart hit the floor when I felt the tension let go. But hey, now I understand how to install helicoil!!

I want to learn how to do valves. I understand I need an inside micrometer, though.
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^^^ Why would you need a micrometer? If you have screw type adjusters or shim type, all you need is a set of blade type feeler guages. If the shims aren't marked ( seldom are they not) you will have to go with trial & error until you get proper clearance...but the mic is not mandatory.

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^^^ Why would you need a micrometer? If you have screw type adjusters or shim type, all you need is a set of blade type feeler guages. If the shims aren't marked ( seldom are they not) you will have to go with trial & error until you get proper clearance...but the mic is not mandatory.
Guess thats why he does basic stuff and wants to learn

I was wondering the same thing. But heck, I just learned the have back taps today

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.... I had the torque wrench on ft/lb instead of Newton Meters
Andy, I guess you don't want to experience this.

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So did they figure out if the metal was bad, or if it was a newb mistake?

Checking valves is a bit more complicated, and you should have some practice doing lower end stuff first, on things that aren't as expensive. If I do a tech day we will probably start with adjusting chain slack, oil changes, changing pads, checking all the adjustable parts of the bike etc. Then maybe move on to new chains/sprockets, tires, and finally valve checks coolant flushes etc.
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They ordered the guy a whole new head. The last detail I read was something to the effect of the tech made an error.
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^^^ Why would you need a micrometer? If you have screw type adjusters or shim type, all you need is a set of blade type feeler guages. If the shims aren't marked ( seldom are they not) you will have to go with trial & error until you get proper clearance...but the mic is not mandatory.
With the mic. you can forgo the trial and error if the clearencne is .002 tight you mic the shim you have and put one that mics .002 smaller in . contrery to what you said I've seen many with no markings.

Without a mic would you want to pay me for trial and error time?

Anybody getting into motor work should have at least a basic understanding of machine shop tools and their use.

Indicator ,caliper,and mic. are just the basics.
The mic you need is an OUTside mic.0-1"

But as old timer said you can get away without.

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So did they figure out if the metal was bad, or if it was a newb mistake?

Checking valves is a bit more complicated, and you should have some practice doing lower end stuff first, on things that aren't as expensive. If I do a tech day we will probably start with adjusting chain slack, oil changes, changing pads, checking all the adjustable parts of the bike etc. Then maybe move on to new chains/sprockets, tires, and finally valve checks coolant flushes etc.
Count me in on that hypothetical tech day!
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