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Forbes: Chicago #3 most miserable city...

http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/06/mos...le_cities.html


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The list of gripes are very real, but to be fair there aren't a lot of other places I think are better. If I won the lotto I'd leave or at least have a secondary residence somewhere but for the average person Chicago isn't so bad.

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Not to mention it's one of the cleanest major cities in the country(?).

But yeah... pretty much sucks. What's there to do? Eat, drink, and eat. Oya, we got ice fishing in the winter!
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I'm not knockin it, I still have yet to try it.
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Yep, Chicago sucks.

So many better places out there.

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Like what? Dollar for dollar there arent a lot of other places I'd consider.

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I said dollar for dollar. I'd live in a fucking shack there.
but in all honesty.. you don't live in chicago now...
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but in all honesty.. you don't live in chicago now...
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The cost of living in the good suburbs of san diego are no better. Sign me up for LaJolla!

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Indianapolis, just from personal experience.

And are you comparing City proper or metro area?

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The cost of living in the good suburbs of san diego are no better. Sign me up for LaJolla!
Suburbs are way higher in Cali than they are in Chicago.. From what I have seen..

City proper.. higher.. but not the same % higher..

but all that said.. they said Chicago was #3.. not the suburbs..
Some of the individual burbs I believe rate very high ...
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The cost of living in the good suburbs of san diego are no better. Sign me up for LaJolla!
Yeah, SD is very nice, but soooooo expensive. Even the 'burbs.

I wouldn't put it on the dollar-for-dollar better than Chicago list.

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Suburbs are way higher in Cali than they are in Chicago.. From what I have seen..

City proper.. higher.. but not the same % higher..

but all that said.. they said Chicago was #3.. not the suburbs..
Some of the individual burbs I believe rate very high ...
Naperville is pretty consistently ranked top 10 or so in the nation.

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The cost of living in the good suburbs of san diego are no better. Sign me up for LaJolla!
I lived in Escondido, less than a half hour from downtown SD in a nice neighborhood and the compensation out there provides the same level buying power as it does here. yes things cost more but similar jobs pay more. For beauty of scenery and things to do, that area is my favorite place to live.
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Naperville is pretty consistently ranked top 10 or so in the nation.
Naperville is nice..
but .. I see it along the lines of Dubai...
Sure they have done some nice things with it.. It's very pretty...
Low crime...

but it's in the bumf*cked middle of nowhere

and i know.. you could pick that apart.. I mean that 80% as joke..

but I'd take naper over dubai 8 days a week
unless... maybe... possibly.. someone gifted me the top couple floors of Burj Dubai (for as long as that building was a pain in my ass.. I feel im owed)
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Naperville is nice..
but .. I see it along the lines of Dubai...
Sure they have done some nice things with it.. It's very pretty...
Low crime...

but it's in the bumf*cked middle of nowhere

and i know.. you could pick that apart.. I mean that 80% as joke..

but I'd take naper over dubai 8 days a week
unless... maybe... possibly.. someone gifted me the top couple floors of Burj Dubai (for as long as that building was a pain in my ass.. I feel im owed)
meh, Naperville has just about everything I'd want, shopping/dining/drinking wise.

but it is pretty far from the city.
OTOH, a place like Fishers, IN is about as nice, half as expensive, and maybe 20 minutes from downtown Indy. Also ranked highly
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/money...PL1823278.html
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meh, Naperville has just about everything I'd want, shopping/dining/drinking wise.

but it is pretty far from the city.
OTOH, a place like Fishers, IN is about as nice, half as expensive, and maybe 20 minutes from downtown Indy. Also ranked highly
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/money...PL1823278.html
Another reason I think the Indy metro area is far better than Chicago.
only part of a thought process comes out on here...
Wife and I have been having the "discussion" about leaving the city.. kid.. schools in the future.. space.. etc...

but of all the things.. really commuting bugs me the most..
I do not want to spend an additional 25-50% of my work day just getting to and coming back from work... Screw that.
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only part of a thought process comes out on here...
Wife and I have been having the "discussion" about leaving the city.. kid.. schools in the future.. space.. etc...

but of all the things.. really commuting bugs me the most..
I do not want to spend an additional 25-50% of my work day just getting to and coming back from work... Screw that.
I hear ya. I HATE commuting.
Thats one of the reason that I pretty much ruled out even looking for jobs in Chicago. I'd have to live at least 40+ minutes out just to be in a area thats affordable but not a shithole. F' that.
My rule for wherever I end up buying a place is 15 minutes each way to work. Maybe 20 if its really nice.

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heard about this in the morning. not that bad of a city to live in.....but hey im right outside of city limits. so its a bit different with the laws and stuff.
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Indianapolis, just from personal experience.

And are you comparing City proper or metro area?
GTFO...Indy

Some folks seem to forget everything that this city has to offer tons of things that other places don't. If you enjoy sitting on the porch and need not much else then places like South Carolina are wonderful. And Indy isn't a city like Chicago is...it's not even a fraction. Chicago has so much to offer besides the negatives that we can think of. Museums, food, night life, lake front (also good in Indy I hear ), music/concerts, plays/musicals, comedy clubs, it's clean, nicely decorated, big but not too big, good public transport, and offers such an abundance of unique things and people...that people seek to come here from all over the world such as our architecture. The list is way too big for me to go on, but faq me, I'd fuggin off myself if I had to live in Indy or South Carolina...not that I wouldn't love to visit, but so long as I could come home to my Chicago And not that places like Indy or South Carolina aren't nice (only using those since I saw them posted no offense meant), but if we're talking city to city, Indy is the finger that poked through the toilet paper compared to Chicago.

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GTFO...Indy

Some folks seem to forget everything that this city has to offer tons of things that other places don't. If you enjoy sitting on the porch and need not much else then places like South Carolina are wonderful. And Indy isn't a city like Chicago is...it's not even a fraction. Chicago has so much to offer besides the negatives that we can think of. Museums, food, night life, lake front (also good in Indy I hear ), music/concerts, plays/musicals, comedy clubs, it's clean, nicely decorated, big but not too big, good public transport, and offers such an abundance of unique things and people...that people seek to come here from all over the world such as our architecture. The list is way too big for me to go on, but faq me, I'd fuggin off myself if I had to live in Indy or South Carolina...not that I wouldn't love to visit, but so long as I could come home to my Chicago And not that places like Indy or South Carolina aren't nice (only using those since I saw them posted no offense meant), but if we're talking city to city, Indy is the finger that poked through the toilet paper compared to Chicago.

haha.

Chicago sucks. If I had to live in Crook county, I'd off myself.

Indy has enough nightlife, comedy clubs, sports and food. I can't really think of a single thing to eat or drink that I can't get in Indy. Broadripple is an awesome neighborhood for nightlife, and half the price of downtown Chi. $5+ for a beer? Fuck that!
As far as concerts go, Same thing. If there's a band I really want to see, guess what, they stop in Indy too.
If I want to play in a lake, there's the Geist Reservoir or I can go down to Lake Monroe. Neither of which double as sewers. I've got actual twisties within minutes and I'm not paying double digit sales tax either.
Oh, and we get a GP in Indy.


Seriously, I thought the same as you before I moved here. But it's dead wrong. There's a helluva lot more to do than "sitting on the porch"

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GTFO...Indy

Some folks seem to forget everything that this city has to offer tons of things that other places don't. If you enjoy sitting on the porch and need not much else then places like South Carolina are wonderful. And Indy isn't a city like Chicago is...it's not even a fraction. Chicago has so much to offer besides the negatives that we can think of. Museums, food, night life, lake front (also good in Indy I hear ), music/concerts, plays/musicals, comedy clubs, it's clean, nicely decorated, big but not too big, good public transport, and offers such an abundance of unique things and people...that people seek to come here from all over the world such as our architecture. The list is way too big for me to go on, but faq me, I'd fuggin off myself if I had to live in Indy or South Carolina...not that I wouldn't love to visit, but so long as I could come home to my Chicago And not that places like Indy or South Carolina aren't nice (only using those since I saw them posted no offense meant), but if we're talking city to city, Indy is the finger that poked through the toilet paper compared to Chicago.
I agree even though I don't live in Chicago. You can eat, drink, or do whatever you want for entertainment any day of the week in Chicago.

Try that in other cities that shut down at 10PM and on Sundays.

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I agree even though I don't live in Chicago. You can eat, drink, or do whatever you want for entertainment any day of the week in Chicago.

Try that in other cities that shut down at 10PM and on Sundays.


Eat and drink, no wonder there is such an obesity problem.
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Eat and drink, no wonder there is such an obesity problem.
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Naperville is pretty consistently ranked top 10 or so in the nation.

I <3 Naperville, although I guess I don't really know anything else.
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Naperville is pretty nice, but holy shit is overpriced as far as housing goes.

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