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Unemployed...Rethinking career.

Most of you don't know but I've been out of work for just over a month now. I am or rather was a steps away from getting my architecture license when my firm just didn't have the work to keep me on board. Since my hiring in 06 the firm went from 95 people to only 21 as of last week. The architecture community as a whole, among other communities, are taking a huge hit. No loans, no buildings, no architecture.

So after a month of unemployment and absolutely nothing in sight as far as architecture is concerned I'm wondering if it's time for at least a temporary switch to something else or maybe even something completely different. Thankfully, my fiance still has a job but seeing that she is also a practicing architect its not looking pretty. I guess this post is a bit of everything...maybe someone has some ideas about going into something that is comparable to architecture or has something to do with it or something that could just help keep me afloat for a while. Any ideas?

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it's funny you say engineers bc when i look for work online all that's listed is work for engineers. but i guess with the built environment crash, as it were, engineers go the way arch's go.

i'm actually looking at taking the LEED exam just to get that out of the way plus boost the resume.

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I have been out of work almost 7 months. I have a job at teh moment but its all commision and I am not making money. I just filed the paperwork to start my own business yesterday. I am in the auto industry and there are just not many jobs out there. Good luck to you.

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you have drafting training right? you should at least be able to find a contract job as a draftsman
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when I got out at Union Station today this guy in a suit was passing out his resume saying "anybody's company hiring". Should have seen the look on his face man could barely crack a fake smile. sad stuff. good luck
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when I got out at Union Station today this guy in a suit was passing out his resume saying "anybody's company hiring". Should have seen the look on his face man could barely crack a fake smile. sad stuff. good luck
yikes! that is scary stuff. thankfully, i haven't reached that point yet.

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when I got out at Union Station today this guy in a suit was passing out his resume saying "anybody's company hiring". Should have seen the look on his face man could barely crack a fake smile. sad stuff. good luck

Oh man that has got to suck
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Definitely consider getting your LEED accredidation...it will serve you very well in coming years as that's the direction things are going for sure.

If you would like to stay in that area of expertise, try moving to the construction side instead of design for a wile. Meaning A/E work, inspecting construction, running projects...that sort of thing. Lots of people looking for work in that area, but it's worth a shot.

The construction will (and is) pick up first...design is likely a ways off.

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I have been out of work almost 7 months. I have a job at teh moment but its all commision and I am not making money. I just filed the paperwork to start my own business yesterday. I am in the auto industry and there are just not many jobs out there. Good luck to you.
What do you do in the auto industry? I went to a training class on tues. and the word is that the repair industry will be very good.
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being out of work sucks, especially when the weather is cold and crappy. i am an out of work engineer so i feel your pain in the construction industry. what firm were you with?
the LEED thing is a good idea but if i recall it is almost 500 dollars to take the test. when you dont have an income that is a lot of money. plus study materials ect. i was going to take the test and have work pay for it but that is not happening anymore.

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It is rough, but I am not sure if a career change is right. Depending how much you have invested in what you have.

I just lost my job as well along with one other member in here who worked for the same company.

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Problem with taking a temp job that is outside your field and lower pay is how potential employer will look at it. And many will not want to hire you because they know that you will run the moment things will turn to the better. It is definitely shitty times right now.

I hope not to be that guy at the station.

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I have been out of work scince November,sometimes these big
contracters like to get a hold of guys like you and put them on there staff, probly won't make the same money but you'll have work.The major corps like Walsh,Leopardo ect,hang in there were all riding out the storm
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being out of work sucks, especially when the weather is cold and crappy. i am an out of work engineer so i feel your pain in the construction industry. what firm were you with?
the LEED thing is a good idea but if i recall it is almost 500 dollars to take the test. when you dont have an income that is a lot of money. plus study materials ect. i was going to take the test and have work pay for it but that is not happening anymore.
$300 but it used to be $250. i can get all the study materials for free through friends of via PDF's. if you want some of the materials PM me.

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that's worth looking into. i have a few contacts including Leopardo but i had very small projects in my hands prior to me getting laid off and firms that usually only work on large projects were looking to bid on small, small projects. everyone is hurting. i doubt firms are looking to pick up talent when no money is coming in. but again...i can't lose anything by asking.

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$300 but it used to be $250. i can get all the study materials for free through friends of via PDF's. if you want some of the materials PM me.
How are you scoring $300? My understanding is it's $400 unless you're a member of the Green Building Council.

If you can afford the fee, I would still definitely take that test...I'm a PE in the industry, everything is leaning that direction.

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How are you scoring $300? My understanding is it's $400 unless you're a member of the Green Building Council.

If you can afford the fee, I would still definitely take that test...I'm a PE in the industry, everything is leaning that direction.
muthafucker!!! i forgot i was getting the USGBC cost through my firm. awesome. well maybe they'll let me know use their log in. ha.

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I'm sure they will...

It looks like the light may be beginning to glint at the end of the tunnel. Hang in there, get your resume beefed up and definitely look into the construction side of things.

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as for the LEED stuff goes it seems like they have the enw version v3.0 replacing v2.2

they now have 3 tiers of certification and i am assuming 3 levels of testing, and 3 levels of revenue generation. i am afraid that LEED has become a self generating revenue machine and they dont care about Green Buildings.

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as for the LEED stuff goes it seems like they have the enw version v3.0 replacing v2.2

they now have 3 tiers of certification and i am assuming 3 levels of testing, and 3 levels of revenue generation. i am afraid that LEED has become a self generating revenue machine and they dont care about Green Buildings.
Like everything else "green" related. Follow the money.

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Like everything else "green" related. Follow the money.
so true


i deal or i should say dealt with the engineering side of the LEED buildings and they dont really make buildings any more energy efficient. many of the requirements cause much hihger heating and cooling loads over a normal building.

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the problem with LEED, and they are trying or tried to fix them in the new version, is that you can become LEED certified without even meeting any of the energy requirements. which is kinda pointless.

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Dam Bro - Sorry to hear - All my contacts are in Software and Software Services - To get into this game now would be VERY tough - I can of course keep an open ear for ya though

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Dam Bro - Sorry to hear - All my contacts are in Software and Software Services - To get into this game now would be VERY tough - I can of course keep an open ear for ya though
yeah no worries...anything is better then nothing.

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when I got out at Union Station today this guy in a suit was passing out his resume saying "anybody's company hiring". Should have seen the look on his face man could barely crack a fake smile. sad stuff. good luck
Those are the types of guys that get jobs in an economy like that. That right there is a go-getter. Gotta respect that.

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Dam Bro - Sorry to hear - All my contacts are in Software and Software Services - To get into this game now would be VERY tough - I can of course keep an open ear for ya though
Jobs in the I.T. sector are tightening up too. The leads I see for open positions, well, they're open for a reason: no one wants some of these shit jobs even in this shitty economy.

I personally love the ones which say I'd have to relocate, but they are not paying for the relocation costs ... Like I'd have 1/2 a chance in hell selling my house in this market anyway ...

The best ones though are those who call me back for an interview, after they told me I suck 6 months ago, because the guy they hired instead of me didn't know his shit and they canned him.

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The best ones though are those who call me back for an interview, after they told me I suck 6 months ago, because the guy they hired instead of me didn't know his shit and they canned him.
Oh I know this one all tooooo well - Before I took my current position, I made it through (4) rounds of Interviews for a Fed/State & Local Gov't Sales position due to my experience in this sector with Sprint - At my current company, we now Rep said company's product line and the cat they hired over me is an idiot - When they came to our office, the Central Region Mgr about shit himself when he saw me now being able to sell his line - I asked him how his "All Star" (as he was described to me when I got turned down) was working out and he told me not to hold on to his card because he would be gone after Q1 due to lack of performance - He then had the balls to ask me if I would still consider the job as he was standing in the board room of my current employer - I laughed and walked away

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