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More School dicisplinary problems?

Does she have a case that holds water?

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March 16, 2009

(WGN-AM) - Leslie Connie has filed a lawsuit against South Holland School District 151 after she said her son Isaac was punished after his friends made a mess in the lunchroom of Coolidge Middle School last March.

In the suit, Connie claimed that Isaac was taken to a counselors officers and ordered to squat while holding two heavy English books. He was allegedly held in that position for half an hour, until he soiled himself. Isaac was then forced to return to class without cleaning himself up.

According to South Holland School District 151, the counselor and social worker named in the lawsuit no longer work for the district.

Connie said since the incident, Isaac has suffered from extreme anxiety, panic attacks, nightmares and flashbacks. He now attends a private school.

District 151 Superintendent Doug Hamilton declined to comment.

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hope they learn their lesson, next time paddle the kid.
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I am in for the punishment part...... After he had his accident that
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Sending him back to class in that condition was pretty harsh and the
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yep. she has a case that holds water. but her kid cant hold squatt...lol

no seriously, the anxiety, panic attacks nightmares and flashbacks i think are all a bunch of crap and she is trying to play the sympathy card in this one...

and seeing that both people no longer work for the district, im willing to bet they settle this outta court real fast

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I dont think anxiety and panic attacks are out of the question at all
Kids are cruel and peer pressure is at an all time high

I have sympathy for this kid

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Our ridiculously letigious society has stopped educators from doing there job and forced them to act based on cya and self-preservation rather than what is right...not that the above isn't a bit overboard, having the kid head back to class at least.

My Dad used to have to kneel on the runners in the church and hold encyclopedias out like that...along with every other kid that went to school 40 years ago

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When it says he soiled himself was it piss or poop?

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When it says he soiled himself was it piss or poop?
Does it matter?

...had to be piss right??

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Does it matter?

...had to be piss right??
Yes it matters, if I'm going to properly make fun of this kid I need to know if his new nickname is "pisspants" or "poopypants"

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I assumed Mr. Hankey ..... but still rough to send him back soiled either way.


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I know (hope) you guys are kidding but I can assure you that the principal of that school would not want to see me coming through the front door of that school after my kid got home.
My kid is there to learn and grow as a kid/person. That will accomplish neither.
He'd get a verbal beat down that he would forever remember. (Then Id piss in his gas tank)

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I don't think public schools can legally impose discipline like that. To me that's borderline torture and the "counselor" who administered it should be removed and not allowed to work around children.

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I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone agreeing with the soiled pants return to class part. The disciplinary action itself doesnt seem too bad, but I'm no 100% in agreement with that part either.



But who knows, maybe poopypants is a repeat offender.

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I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone agreeing with the soiled pants return to class part. The disciplinary action itself doesnt seem too bad, but I'm no 100% in agreement with that part either.



But who knows, maybe poopypants is a repeat offender.




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I was thinking something more along the lines of detention.

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I don't think public schools can legally impose discipline like that. To me that's borderline torture and the "counselor" who administered it should be removed and not allowed to work around children.
WOW...I think this is the line of thinking that has created a society where kids show no respect, nothing gets accomplish, and kids are a bunch of whiny b**ches. I agree he should not have been sent back to class. Send him to the locker room (probably been outlawed) and give him a fresh pair of pants (had them in my day). But here is no way in hell that calisthenics is torture.
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Depends how their discipline code reads but that is Corporal punishment according to CPS. Big no no.

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WOW...I think this is the line of thinking that has created a society where kids show no respect, nothing gets accomplish, and kids are a bunch of whiny b**ches. I agree he should not have been sent back to class. Send him to the locker room (probably been outlawed) and give him a fresh pair of pants (had them in my day). But here is no way in hell that calisthenics is torture.
respect is earned not just given - on both sides. I doubt this kid will ever have any respect for authority in school. They have let him down.

Where is the line then? If some say a spanking/paddling.. Then is slap to the face OK? A crack to the back of the head? Twisting an arm?
Hands on is a huge HUGE no-no in my book. Under any cisrcumstances. ANY
If its OK for them then I guess it's OK for me to come back after school and have a "Walking Tall' type conversation with that person.

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WOW...I think this is the line of thinking that has created a society where kids show no respect, nothing gets accomplish, and kids are a bunch of whiny b**ches. I agree he should not have been sent back to class. Send him to the locker room (probably been outlawed) and give him a fresh pair of pants (had them in my day). But here is no way in hell that calisthenics is torture.
it's up to parents to laydown that kind of thing. Do you have kids?

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respect is earned not just given - on both sides. I doubt this kid will ever have any respect for authority in school. They have let him down.

Where is the line then? If some say a spanking/paddling.. Then is slap to the face OK? A crack to the back of the head? Twisting an arm?
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it's up to parents to laydown that kind of thing. Do you have kids?

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respect is earned not just given - on both sides. I doubt this kid will ever have any respect for authority in school. They have let him down.

Where is the line then? If some say a spanking/paddling.. Then is slap to the face OK? A crack to the back of the head? Twisting an arm?
Hands on is a huge HUGE no-no in my book. Under any cisrcumstances. ANY
If its OK for them then I guess it's OK for me to come back after school and have a "Walking Tall' type conversation with that person.
As far as parents go, don't draw blood, don't leave a bruise and your OK.
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As far as parents go, don't draw blood, don't leave a bruise and your OK.
I respectfully disagree. Lordy.

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As far as parents go, don't draw blood, don't leave a bruise and your OK.
So hitting someone with a phone book on the head is okay?

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it's up to parents to laydown that kind of thing. Do you have kids?
I don't have kids.

But they also didn't strike the kid. I see no problem with push ups, sit ups, squats or any of that. Would it really be that big of deal if the kid was doing sit ups and sharted? Thats basically what happened. Should the kid have been allowed to clean up, yes. Was the punishment wrong, no.
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So hitting someone with a phone book on the head is okay?
OH, and they could just put oranges in to socks.

Yes there are ways to get around those two requirements. My point was not to set a specific unambiguous definition, but a basic idea. I see nothing wrong with spanking or firmly grabbing a child's arm or anything like that.
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And then when a kid has an asthma attack and no inhaler what then?

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And then when a kid has an asthma attack and no inhaler what then?
What does that have to do with anything?

Use some common sense. Maybe we should all just live in padded rooms so no one gets hurt.
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