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Speed cameras up for vote-Cook, DuPage, Kane, Lake, Madison, McHenry, St. Clair,Will

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Speed cameras proposed in Illinois
State legislation would let 8 counties use automated enforcement
WGN-AM's Williams talks about cameras with Sen. Link
By Jon Hilkevitch | Tribune reporter
March 26, 2009
If you're a driver who hates cameras that ticket you for running red lights, you won't be revved up to support the next version of "cops in a box" possibly coming to Illinois.

Automated enforcement of speed limits would be allowed in the Chicago region and other areas under a proposed state law.

The move is part of a bill that would permit some counties and municipalities to mail speeding tickets of up to $100 for drivers caught going too fast by unmanned, stationary radar cameras positioned alongside roadways.

"I cannot feel sorry for those people caught by camera, because they are breaking the law," said state Sen. Terry Link (D- Waukegan), a sponsor of the legislation, which could move to a Senate vote next week. If approved by the General Assembly and signed by the governor, the law would take effect Jan. 1.


More than 500 speed-related traffic deaths occurred in Illinois in 2007, according to state records. Nationally, about 13,000 people died that year in accidents where speeding was the cause or a contributing factor, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Under the proposed Illinois law, speeding tickets issued by automated surveillance would be treated as non-moving offenses, like parking tickets and red-light violations, and convictions or guilty pleas would not go on drivers' records, officials said.

Pictures of the offending license plate would be mailed to the registered owner of the vehicle. The driver and passengers would not be photographed.

Speed cameras would be permitted on roads in eight counties that have a history of speed-related accidents, where insufficient police manpower exists to enforce speed limits and where on-site enforcement is "inherently difficult."

The counties are Cook, DuPage, Kane, Lake, Madison, McHenry, St. Clair and Will.

In addition to permitting municipalities and counties to install automated speed-enforcement cameras, the legislation would lift a ban on recorded images for speed enforcement unless a police officer is present, officials said.

The bill makes no mention of signs that tell drivers how fast they are going. But the Illinois State Police's roving photo-enforcement vans can operate only with the electronic "Your Speed Is " sign, under the law written for the ISP vans.

The measure is aimed at reducing accidents and fatalities and it is not an attempt to increase revenue, said Link and state Rep. Joe Lyons (D-Chicago), the bill's sponsors.

The legislation is supported by the City of Chicago, Secretary of State Jesse White, law enforcement groups and other groups.

"The reason people speed is because they can," said John Ulczycki, vice president for research at the National Safety Council. "When people perceive that a law is not being enforced, speeding increases"

In Arizona, where stationary speed-enforcement cameras are deployed on a broad scale, speeding on highways has been cut by 9 m.p.h. on average, according to the state. Speed-related crashes along U.S. Highway 101 near Scottsdale have decreased 44 percent since the cameras were installed last year, officials said.

Last year, Rod Blagojevich, then governor, announced a plan to put speed cameras on interstates in Illinois. He said the plan could raise $50 million a year and allow the state to hire hundreds of state troopers.
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WBBM780Speed cameras proposed in Illinois
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Last year, Rod Blagojevich, then governor, announced a plan to put speed cameras on interstates in Illinois. He said the plan could raise $50 million a year ...
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Most recently, Cincinnati and Steubenville, Ohio voted to ban speed and red light cameras. Between 1991 and 1997, voters in Batavia, Illinois; Peoria, ...
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passport 9500 has gps an upload file you can set up for all speed camera installations




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And the Revenue raping just keeps coming

Must be a good year for Illinois who is always complaining about being broke

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is it possible, just possible, that this state just plain spends too much money? Possible?

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is it possible, just possible, that this state just plain spends too much money? Possible?
I guess you need revenue when we continually have to have trails for the corrupt politicians

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passport 9500 has gps an upload file you can set up for all speed camera installations
Only problem with that is that some of these speed cameras are portable, and they pop up wherever the cop darn well wants to put them.

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"The measure is aimed at reducing accidents and fatalities and it is not an attempt to increase revenue, said Link and state Rep. Joe Lyons (D-Chicago), the bill's sponsors."


Does anyone actually believe this BS? It is ALWAYS about the $$.

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There is a good doscution going on across the pond tittled "I dont want to hear bitching...."
Some came up with a good point and a way to bring up opposition to this speed camera nusance.

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you see this speed racer dude post up???

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Sound like they will only be at intersections form the article, typically riders don't blast thru these areas anyhow. Backroads are for that.
I have a friend who went back to the UK to visit family a few months ago. He said that even on many back roads they now have camera. BS.

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these cameras will heat up in the summer and radiate jeT, contributing to global warming, they will ruin the natural habitats of many species, the flash at might could disrupt the migratory patterns of inaects and birds, for the sake of the planet these speed cameras must not be installed. The manucaturing of them, the installatim and mainence will have yrwmendouse carbon foot prints.
For the sake of the annet people.
Now to just find a few tree higher left wing environmental sites and have them organize a few demonstrations.
Have the enemie kill itself

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I'm curious... How funny is it going to be when one of the reps that vote for these things get ticketed by them? Will the ticket stick... or will that one just get "lost in the mail"?

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passport 9500 has gps an upload file you can set up for all speed camera installations
Wont these cameras also be shooting radar to assess if you are speeding? With the 9500ix you wouldnt really benefit from the GPS canceling and the any camera coordinate upload would only produce a double alert as it is a real radar threat. Right?
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Wont these cameras also be shooting radar to assess if you are speeding? With the 9500ix you wouldnt really benefit from the GPS canceling and the any camera coordinate upload would only produce a double alert as it is a real radar threat. Right?
No. They can use lidars and radars combined with cameras, true, but typically that would be a photo method. Take two pics in rapid succession with known interval and measure the distance traveled. Calc speed.

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didnt mythbusters prove this stuff is worthless
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With all this extra money coming in from these, will out roads get fixed? I say we all drive 45 mph on the highways and see how much traffic backs up.
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This is all wrong.

"Last year, Rod Blagojevich, then governor, announced a plan to put speed cameras on interstates in Illinois. He said the plan could raise $50 million a year and allow the state to hire hundreds of state troopers."

Don't you normally put up "machines" to replace humans. Wouldn't speed cameras be needed to reduce officers and save the state money. Great businessmen like this are why large companies, and our economy, failed.
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I heard about this on the radio this morning as well. Out in Carol Stream, our police don't actually prevent any actual criminal activities from happening. Your possessions (house, car, bike) could get broken into, vandalized, stolen, etc. and what will happen? It will take 30 minutes for the cop sitting on Gary Ave, North Ave, Army Trail, or County Farm to leave his radar trap to come write his report and then go back to his radar.

I just don't understand what the benefit is because the real cost savings here is that they don't have to pay a cop to sit there... It's not like they're going to put up cameras and then assign the officer that would have been there to go sit at another position to watch for speeders, they'll just put up more cameras. So in actuality the reps aren't saying it but they are eventually going to be eliminating positions to cut costs. Then we are just adding to the unemployment rate.
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