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post #1 of 49 (permalink) Old 04-02-2009, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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Helmet Law VOTE was yesterday

IT FAILED!!!! Here is the email i recieved from Dan today!



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I want to let you know that the Legislation SB 1351, which would mandate helmets be worn by motorcycle drivers and riders in Illinois, was voted on in the Senate last night. There was a spirited debate.

I voted NO on the bill. The legislation was defeated.

I will keep you informed on other legislative matters.

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Yeah Kelly, already posted in https://chicagolandsportbikes.com/for...ad.php?t=85610

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Yep. I did a search and was unsure of that title and didnt want to have to read multiple pages so i thought i would start a new thread.

Personally i am glad it was defeated. For the record i do not ride without a helmet but that is the choice I like to have. I do not want to be told i MUST wear a helmet!

Next thing you know is government is going to decide who can run a company they subsidize and who should not! After all--THEY do know best! Right?

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Straight to the point thread without the mambo jumbo law shit.
Im still wearing my helmet though

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fuck yeah, we dont need no governing!



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You guys don't, but all the bright people that ride like squids with no helmet do.

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Niice, But wish we could trade the helmet law bill for the lane splitting bill. I think that would be an even trade.
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Niice, But wish we could trade the helmet law bill for the lane splitting bill. I think that would be an even trade.
I take a helmet without the lane split, but that would be AWESOME if we could get that as well.

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Niice, But wish we could trade the helmet law bill for the lane splitting bill. I think that would be an even trade.
+1 for a dummy you got a good idea.



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+1 for a dummy you got a good idea.

oh wait ummm
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actually what would it take to start a movement for the lane splitting law on it's own? we do have a lot of people on here.
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fuck yeah, we dont need no governing!
You can't legislate common sense.

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You guys don't, but all the bright people that ride like squids with no helmet do.
Here, I am quoting your signature.

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actually what would it take to start a movement for the lane splitting law on it's own? we do have a lot of people on here.

Its a give and take but the people that stand so firm on not wanting a helmet law won't let the trade off happen.
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Niice, But wish we could trade the helmet law bill for the lane splitting bill. I think that would be an even trade.
has that stopped you yet?

Oh well Il isn't know for being the smartest state

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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Its a give and take but the people that stand so firm on not wanting a helmet law won't let the trade off happen.
i'm saying fuck making a trade let's start a movement for just the lane splitting. then see what they want in trade for that.
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has that stopped you yet?

Oh well Il isn't know for being the smartest state
No but it would make things alot more legal for me.
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actually what would it take to start a movement for the lane splitting law on it's own? we do have a lot of people on here.

I like your where your going with this....
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Here, I am quoting your signature.



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I found the fact that he is going to be forced to vote straight down the democrat ticket next election amusing...

You know who supports nanny laws... and you know who doesn't...
good bad or indifferent...
I didn't see the tally, but I bet Republicans were more against, and Democrats were more for it...

Thus the quandary.. right?

Wink... Looks like you just became a Democrat

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Please take note of disqualifier #3
You really don't want to go there.
Ever wonder why I don't ride on the street?
Ever wonder how many DEAD friends I have that CHOSE not to wear a helmet?


Yeah.... tell ya what. I'll stop typing now.

This particular topic isn't the kind of thing that typically I can stay calm about. Suffice it to say, that without personal attack, it is good to get others opinions.

Whether I currently am riding on the street, whether I will in the future, or whether I never have or never will has nothing to do with my right to an opinion on this issue.

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I found the fact that he is going to be forced to vote straight down the democrat ticket next election amusing...

You know who supports nanny laws... and you know who doesn't...
good bad or indifferent...
I didn't see the tally, but I bet Republicans were more against, and Democrats were more for it...

Thus the quandary.. right?

Wink... Looks like you just became a Democrat
Bummer, what happened to the Libertarian movement?

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Bummer, what happened to the Libertarian movement?
If anything.. That's where I would fall more often than not.
My whole life it seems I have had a disdain for rules, and authority..

Seemed like in this case you were the one pushing another law down upon people. Which is somewhat more amusing on here as you (as stated above) do not even ride a street bike... So much like most of the lawmakers.. You were pushing a law down on street riders... and not even being one yourself... So the law would not even affect you.

In any case.. I don't see what's wrong with people being responsible for their own lives?
Choose to wear a helmet to minimize risk... Choose to not ride a sport bike or really any bike to minimize risk.. Choose to wear a seatbelt or not wear a seatbelt... I think my argument sounds libertarian.. and the one about putting up more laws for people to protect themselves.. Well.. It doesn't.


This is a hard one for me to disagree with you on Wink.. Because on one side in principle I wholeheartedly agree with you.. but.. Also.. I disagree...

I think it equates to a lawyer defending a horrible rapist.. He might completely disagree with what the person did... and not support him or the act at all.. but he supports the mans right to a trial and as good of a defense as possible..

I support wearing a helmet... but just as much I support a persons right to choose what they do in their life.

I don't smoke pot.. but I cant for the life of me understand why it is illegal.. even when prescribed by a doctor.. but oxycontin is legal..

I don't support David Duke or Malcolm X... or the Nation of Islam.. but I support their right to say whatever they want to say.. without the government shutting them up or putting them in jail (doesn't mean I want to hear it.. it means I believe in a persons right to freedom)

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No trades and no deals, thats what we told them. It has been offered.

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No trades and no deals, thats what we told them. It has been offered.
not very diplomatic, kinda short sighted in my oppinion

you vehemently oppose a law that will help to increase the safety and survivability of your membership yet there is seemingly nothign from you(least I havent seen anything) on the youth offroad ban, a law which will put an eventual strangle hold on the future new membership...

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not very diplomatic, kinda short sighted in my oppinion

you vehemently oppose a law that will help to increase the safety and survivability of your membership yet there is seemingly nothign from you(least I havent seen anything) on the youth offroad ban, a law which will put an eventual strangle hold on the future new membership...
+1

Since the youth ban doesn't effect cruiser guys, it isn't high priority for them aparently.

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not very diplomatic, kinda short sighted in my oppinion

you vehemently oppose a law that will help to increase the safety and survivability of your membership yet there is seemingly nothign from you(least I havent seen anything) on the youth offroad ban, a law which will put an eventual strangle hold on the future new membership...
What about speed limited lane splitting. Such as gridlock...10mph and under not 110mph.

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