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United Air to charge obese double on full flights

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...IRLINES-OBESE/

LOS ANGELES United Airlines, a unit of UAL Corp, will require obese passengers bumped from full flights to purchase two seats on a subsequent flight, matching the policy of some other carriers.

The change brings the Chicago-based in line with eight other airlines including Continental, Delta, JetBlue and Southwest, United spokeswoman Robin Urbanski said on Wednesday.

"Last year we had 700 complaints from passengers who had to share their seats," she said.

Under the new policy, obese passengers -- defined as unable to lower the arm rest and buckle a seat belt with one extension belt -- will still be reaccommodated, at no extra charge, to two empty seats if there is space available.

If, however, the airplane is full, they will be bumped from the flight and may have to purchase a second ticket, at the same price as the original fare, Urbanski said.

If the bumped passenger chooses to cancel the trip, the ticket will be refunded with no additional charge.

The policy is effective immediately.


I thought if they were gonna do this, it was because of weight limits? If they're gonna charge you to check a bag each way, I'm surprised they're not extending it to passengers.

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It's not about the weight, as much as handling the bags. People load themselves up on the plane. Bags require man power & time.

And about time. I've set next to some fat fucks, but I was lucky enough where the plane wasn't full, and I'd just find another seat next to someone normal size.
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You pay for the seat. If you require more than one, sorry.. pay for more than one. I think they are being fair in exhausting all options first before resorting to that. Also glad to hear they are doing FULL refunds if that option is taken.

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I hate when a fat dude gets stuck in the middle of a 3 seat row. I've been flying all over since I was a little shit, and getting stuck to a fat person that is sweaty and smells bad is one of the worst goddamn experiences.
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I hate when a fat dude gets stuck in the middle of a 3 seat row. I've been flying all over since I was a little shit, and getting stuck to a fat person that is sweaty and smells bad is one of the worst goddamn experiences.
Try sitting next to some skinny tofu eating cali hippie who doesnt beleive in bathing more than once a week for 20hrs on a plane.
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Last year during a flight from Eastern Europe I sat next to a woman who was very fat and had health problems so she couldn't really walk, she needed a helper to even get out of the seat. I was real cool with her, I helped he to the bathroom once, I filed out the customs shit for ger because she was too fat/old/sick to write. I waited until the entire plane was empty to help her out to a wheelchair. It was an exercise in EXTREME patience. That said, she definitely needed to be in two seats, it was unbelievable torture to be seated next to her. Any law or rule that guarentees I will never be in that position again has got my approval.

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yeah the worst are usually anyone from europe/middle east traveling to america

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Good for them. I can't stand sitting next to some fat ass who thinks they own half my seat. That bugs the shit out of me.
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Try sitting next to some skinny tofu eating cali hippie who doesnt beleive in bathing more than once a week for 20hrs on a plane.
Sorry bout that... I thought the pitcholi oil would mask my B.O.

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I've never been stuck next to someone who is Obese - even with over 700k airline miles in 2 years I HAVE been stuck next to borderline fat people though. Just big enough where they wouldn't need two seats but they are definitely too big for the seat they are in. I always sit in the window seat so I can lean away if I have to, but it does get annoying...

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Last year during a flight from Eastern Europe I sat next to a woman who was very fat and had health problems so she couldn't really walk, she needed a helper to even get out of the seat. I was real cool with her, I helped he to the bathroom once, I filed out the customs shit for ger because she was too fat/old/sick to write. I waited until the entire plane was empty to help her out to a wheelchair. It was an exercise in EXTREME patience. That said, she definitely needed to be in two seats, it was unbelievable torture to be seated next to her. Any law or rule that guarentees I will never be in that position again has got my approval.
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Before the fat jokes come towards me, FTR, I can fit in the seat with the arm rests down and seat belt buckled without any issue at all and still have room to spare.

I think this is the most rediculous thing ever. I've been stuck next to morbidly obese people before and even got stuck next to a women on an 8 hour flight to Germany who actually had to lift up her rolls of fat and place them over the arm rests after she sat down. *shivers* Without a doubt it sucks, it's uncomfortable and it's not something I'd like to do again but I don't think this is the answer. Are they going to start making smelly people buy two seats as a buffer zone or make parents with bratty kids buy two seats? What about the people that like to rest their head on part of my seat or invade my space in other ways? I'd much rather sit next to a fat person than someone with serious BO. At least you can use one of the rolls of fat as a pillow.

If the travel industry is hurting already I'd imagine this isn't going to help at all. There has got to be better ways of dealing with this.

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... There has got to be better ways of dealing with this.
How about instead of forcing them to buy a 2nd seat, why not make them sit in 1st class where the seats are bigger.

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How about instead of forcing them to buy a 2nd seat, why not make them sit in 1st class where the seats are bigger.
That's one of the options as well.

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How about instead of forcing them to buy a 2nd seat, why not make them sit in 1st class where the seats are bigger.
And reward them for being a fatass??? They did it to themselves. I had to sit next to a woman who could not get up on her own, she needed help from the FA just to get out of her seat and she was on the isle. She also used over half of my seat and I had to use part of my wifes. I also could not buckle my seatbelt because she had me so far over.

They should turn the back row of seats on every plan into handicapped seats, knock one seat out of those rows and make them doublewides. then require a doctors not to gain access to them. Just like handicapped parking.




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And reward them for being a fatass??? They did it to themselves. I had to sit next to a woman who could not get up on her own, she needed help from the FA just to get out of her seat and she was on the isle. She also used over half of my seat and I had to use part of my wifes. I also could not buckle my seatbelt because she had me so far over.

They should turn the back row of seats on every plan into handicapped seats, knock one seat out of those rows and make them doublewides. then require a doctors not to gain access to them. Just like handicapped parking.
I think Xgamesboix was saying make them purchase 1st class tickets, not be upgraded for free.

I agree with your post 100%. The only problem I see this creating is for people that truly cannot help it due to medical reasons, not because they are addicted to Big Macs.

On a similar topic, I was at a Blackhawks' game a couple weeks ago, and had some fat ass sit next to me it. It sucked. I knew he was a "squatter" as well, so I went and asked one of the workers to check his ticket. They kicked him out of his seat and I was happy again

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They should turn the back row of seats on every plan into handicapped seats, knock one seat out of those rows and make them doublewides. then require a doctors not to gain access to them. Just like handicapped parking.

That is actually a good idea! What about the people that can't fit through the aisles to get to the back row though?

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Before the fat jokes come towards me, FTR, I can fit in the seat with the arm rests down and seat belt buckled without any issue at all and still have room to spare.

I think this is the most rediculous thing ever. I've been stuck next to morbidly obese people before and even got stuck next to a women on an 8 hour flight to Germany who actually had to lift up her rolls of fat and place them over the arm rests after she sat down. *shivers* Without a doubt it sucks, it's uncomfortable and it's not something I'd like to do again but I don't think this is the answer. Are they going to start making smelly people buy two seats as a buffer zone or make parents with bratty kids buy two seats? What about the people that like to rest their head on part of my seat or invade my space in other ways? I'd much rather sit next to a fat person than someone with serious BO. At least you can use one of the rolls of fat as a pillow.

If the travel industry is hurting already I'd imagine this isn't going to help at all. There has got to be better ways of dealing with this.


Find me a super huge fat person that doesn't stink to high heaven and I'll give you a dollar. You know they can't reach all those rolls. I was told you have to dust the women in flour and check the wet spots for the glory hole.

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Im not sure about the odor thing and how it relates to all obese people but I do know that it doesnt take an enormous person to start spilling into the next seat. The seats are small
That said - the airlines are in the freight business. They just happen to move people instead of packages. Can I mail a 3'x3' 100lb box for the same cost as a 2lb shoe box? Me thinks not. You take up more space and cost them more fuel - you pay for it.

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Im not sure about the odor thing and how it relates to all obese people but I do know that it doesnt take an enormous person to start spilling into the next seat. The seats are small
That said - the airlines are in the freight business. They just happen to move people instead of packages. Can I mail a 3'x3' 100lb box for the same cost as a 2lb shoe box? Me thinks not. You take up more space and cost them more fuel - you pay for it.
You pay for the seat. If you are too large that you make the seat next to you unusable for revenue, then you should pay for taking it out of commission.

This plan is a 'last resort' thing and other options are available. If there are empty seats, they will re-seat people and no one gets charged extra. They will also refund your money 100% if the no other room can be found/made.

They are exhausting all other 'fair' measures first. Why is it considered 'fair' for a customer to make an income producing entity (the seat next to them) unusable by the entity owner? It's not.

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It's called 'first class'

I flew next to a guy this morning .... in first class .... who was so big
that he used his seat and the armrest area. He was so round that he
nearly touched the back of the seat in front of him.


I shit you not.


Fortunately.... the red-eye is never oversold so I was able to move.


He EASILY would require two seats wide in coach..... and unless it was an exit row
or an expanded legroom coach section he wouldn't fit between the seats depth-wise.



Really nice positive young guy....... but one big mo-fo.



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