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Congratulations chinadoll8888!!!!

My Wife completed her first weekend of the MSF this weekend!
I wanted to publicly say Congratulations Honey! You're doing awesome!
I also wanted to post one of the pictures I took (that proves the awesomeness)
and last..

She has questions.. about the class, about what is coming up next, about her wrists (she has torn her wrists up something fierce with the baby.. pretty nasty tendinitis) I was wondering if anyone out there had the same issue.. and if anything helped them.. We are discussing cortisone shots... but that is so short term.

Her first class was mostly rained out and they knocked out a lot of classroom stuff... Second day they got to spend a lot more time on the bikes, I stopped by in the last 5 minutes of class and snapped a couple photos through the fence.. pretty stoked I caught this.. deckin out the rebel..



Now I do that.. but that's just because I have the added benefit of bottoming out the suspension

She is taking a train out to Michigan this afternoon with my daughter.. I sent her some Keith Code stuff to read on countersteering (yes.. I gave her the caveat.. that everything she learns now works to a point.. and she will probably do things a bit differently at a certain point in the future)


In any case... Congratulations Honey!
Love you.. and I know you are doing this just for me..


Everyone else.. Can you help fill in info on MSF (I regret to admit that I have never taken it - Always meant to... )

Also.. anything on the wrists.. I have been telling her to be as loose as possible, but she is having lockups with her thumbs and she has a hard time reaching the levers (Small hands) so she has to stretch...
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Thats more lean angle than I have seen half the people on this board do. Congrats!!!
Haha, I was thinking the same thing!


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Everyone else.. Can you help fill in info on MSF (I regret to admit that I have never taken it - Always meant to... )
What info you need? Your wife should be able to take the books home. You'd probably breeze through it as it's a lot of basics, with some common sense and street guidance.

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Thats more lean angle than I have seen half the people on this board do. Congrats!!!


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Whick MSF school did she take?
Lansing Airport..
It was her first time on a motorcycle.. I bought her the Buell going on 2 years ago.... She hasn't even sat on it yet.

She has been on a handful of rides on the back with me..

She has one more weekend to go.. I guess a lot of Moms have the problem from picking baby up all of the time...

Her wrists would hurt really bad and just.. lock up.. she was unable to control throttle and had a hard time getting to the brake..

which caused her to get right up on it and explore the outer limits of rebel handling

She freaked when she decked it out.. the instructor ran over and was like "awesome!"
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angling the levers down for me helps a lot as well, least on my bike.

the taping with athletic tape idea i got from eejeremy last summer and it helps add a few hours of pain free riding to a day

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Thats more lean angle than I have seen half the people on this board do. Congrats!!!
Congrats! That's more lean angle than I carry as well.

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Congrats! That's more lean angle than I carry as well.
you're on too powerful a bike my friend...
There is this control rider on a board I frequent who has something interesting in his signature file I think you'd find useful

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Don't discount him just cuz he has a Mac.. You might learn something
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Hopefully soon...
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I was kidding
Realistically her first day with me at the track I had her sit on a couple peoples RS125's
one had a really nice comfy seat.. it was a tad high for her comfort (having only sat on a couple bikes ever)... the other was a girls bike.. I don't recall her name.. it had basically no padding and Connie was able to flat foot it..

Haven't you learned at least 75% of what I say is at best partially true?

To be honest.. I'd love to get her a TZ... but they are expensive... and a bit much for a new rider (or for an experienced one)...

I just want to get her something small she can have fun on.. She isn't out to race.. I just want her to experience permagrin --

Personally if I had my way, and where she goes from this isn't my call... I'd be ecstatic if she just went out had fun, and did as well as she is comfortable with.. but to see her on a little bike passing guys would admittedly give me some permagrin.. unless I was one of those guys
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What day to you learn "getting your ass off the seat" in the MSF class?
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To be honest I would really like to see her spend more time on the track than the street...
Do some trips etc.. but living where we live ... The street is a bit dangerous.. and being a new mom etc.. neither of us want her to be taking too much risk...

Also I would love to see her hone her skills at the track.. Most of the schools have great Novice programs that I think she will be ready for ... maybe middle to end of season.. We will see.. I have her Buell out in storage, just need to do a little riding in indiana and get her used to the controls.. I imagine the Blast will be just fine for her first few novice days...

I made a lot of mistakes on the street in the beginning, and acquired a lot of bad habits I wouldn't have had I learned how to ride properly from the start.. Rather than just saying "i can do this" and taking off.. then picking most things up through trial and error (errors hurt in this sport)
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For the wrist issue, use the carpel tunnel braces. You can get generic ones at walgreens. That is what my doctor told me to use when Abi was a baby. That and lots and lots of wrist massage. I used bio-freeze to ease the pain in my wrist.

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I was kidding
Realistically her first day with me at the track I had her sit on a couple peoples RS125's
one had a really nice comfy seat.. it was a tad high for her comfort (having only sat on a couple bikes ever)... the other was a girls bike.. I don't recall her name.. it had basically no padding and Connie was able to flat foot it..

Haven't you learned at least 75% of what I say is at best partially true?

To be honest.. I'd love to get her a TZ... but they are expensive... and a bit much for a new rider (or for an experienced one)...

I just want to get her something small she can have fun on.. She isn't out to race.. I just want her to experience permagrin --

Personally if I had my way, and where she goes from this isn't my call... I'd be ecstatic if she just went out had fun, and did as well as she is comfortable with.. but to see her on a little bike passing guys would admittedly give me some permagrin.. unless I was one of those guys
I'd recommend learning the track on an SV650. (She can't flat foot it, but it is lower that the 600)That is how my daughter started and then she moved up to the GSXR600. Personally, I think that a 2-stroke is about the hardest thing to learn on unless you are only on the track with other two-strokes. Once you get to the point where you are able to carry corner speed, AND are running in a group that allows passing on the outside in corners, you are ready for a two-stroke.

There is nothing more frustrating than getting parked in all the corners by the guys on 1000s, 750s, and 600s and not being allowed to pass them in your skills group.

Once she is intermediate skills, she can pass in corners, and then she can move to a 250 or a 125. BOTH of which are an absolute blast to ride.

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For the wrist issue, use the carpel tunnel braces. You can get generic ones at walgreens. That is what my doctor told me to use when Abi was a baby. That and lots and lots of wrist massage. I used bio-freeze to ease the pain in my wrist.
We bought those... Then she found out it was tendinitis.. (her regular doc not a hand specialist) did a quick test for carpal tunnel (tingling etc) ...

So we took the first braces back and bought these smaller ones (to immobilize the thumb) -- They help, a little.. but she is still having serious issues ... I might go back and get her the other braces... She is heading out of town for the week though, so I guess she'll have to go..

I don't want her to push it too much... I admit I want her to pass and get licensed, I don't want her hurting herself doing it or taking unnecessary risks.

She is supposed to be out there having a good time, not enduring this.

I talked to her about the taping up, that's a possibility.. She bought really tight gloves and is having a hard time getting them over her existing braces.. I wonder how much the carpal braces affect movement (will she even be able to ride?) -- and if they will fit under the gloves.. and what is better.. that or a tight tape job...

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You should see her on the SV650 (I have one as well)
on the kick stand.. she is like 2" away from the ground on the leaned over side... It's not even close...

She wants a Monster really bad.. Ducati has been pretty good about making that bike very female friendly.. Obviously lowering is going to affect cornering but they appear to have built it in such a way that it can be done ... properly (ie - it has been designed to be lowered a couple different ways .. from a different seat to some linkages in the back.. I can't name everything off from memory.. I just remember reading that as a selling point of the 696)

The Buell Blast will hit 85mph with me on it.. I took the S Curve a bit over 50 on it and just skimmed a peg.. but the suspension won't be so bottomed out, and the tiller motor won't be lugging a fat guy with her.. so it might actually be a fun track bike for her.. at least for the first season

Getting off it I said the same thing I said the first time I rode the XB9R
"this thing would rock if it just had 15 more hp"

It's actually a fun little bike...
but it does leak a bit of oil (hey.. harleys tend to leak.. especially when you cut them in half)

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I'd recommend learning the track on an SV650. (She can't flat foot it, but it is lower that the 600)That is how my daughter started and then she moved up to the GSXR600. Personally, I think that a 2-stroke is about the hardest thing to learn on unless you are only on the track with other two-strokes. Once you get to the point where you are able to carry corner speed, AND are running in a group that allows passing on the outside in corners, you are ready for a two-stroke.

There is nothing more frustrating than getting parked in all the corners by the guys on 1000s, 750s, and 600s and not being allowed to pass them in your skills group.

Once she is intermediate skills, she can pass in corners, and then she can move to a 250 or a 125. BOTH of which are an absolute blast to ride.
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Thats awesome that she is not afraid to actually lean the bike! You might want to remind her that when she is dragging hardparts, especially around here, there is a chance for those parts to get caught in ruts, pavement seams etc. It could get real ugly real fast - just put that in her thought process. Kudos to her for taking the class!

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Thats awesome that she is not afraid to actually lean the bike! You might want to remind her that when she is dragging hardparts, especially around here, there is a chance for those parts to get caught in ruts, pavement seams etc. It could get real ugly real fast - just put that in her thought process. Kudos to her for taking the class!
I don't think the scraping was intentional..
She was just going a bit faster than intended (due to her wrist)
and instead of going wife she just pushed it through the corner.. she is doing a good job (imho from the few minutes I watched) of looking where she wants to go, and having the bike follow..

when she scraped she was afraid she did something wrong.. but the instructors seemed pretty happy with it.

She needs to figure the wrist thing out, as the next drills will be braking.. and if she is having problems like she did yesterday she will not be allowed to continue (they told her she is doing great - but if she continues to have the issues with her wrists it is a safety thing...) I completely agree with them..
I want her to do well but I don't want her to get hurt or scared of riding...

She is planning on reading this thread on the train today...

I guess one thing that makes this slightly less of an issue is she is going to have a lot more ground clearance on a sportbike than she will on a rebel...
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