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Need Some Help - Cutting Wood

Ok, so the g/f told me that I couldn't build a good looking desk. So, I couldn't sleep becuase it irritated me. I spent the whole night planning how I'd build it, then went to HD in the morning, bought wood, and built it.

Now, its no woodworkers super craftsmanship or anything like that, and definitely a lot of cheating, but its solid, looks straight (looks like an executive desk) and will work fine for our home office. But...

I need to put the top on. I have a 4X8 sheet of Maple Plywood and for the life of me I cannot get straight cuts on my table saw. The fence only goes out 13" and this would be bigger then that (cutting off the excess). I've tried with shorter pieces as well (for the drawer fronts) and still not 100% perfect. The saw is a craftsman standard home type table saw.

What am I doing wrong?!? Any tips/help?? I really need to make the top perfect as it's what will be most visible. If it's not square, it'll be visible.
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Sorry, I cannot be of help, but had to comment:

I admire your determination or how much free time you have. Sounds like a good project, but for $300 you could have bought a nice one and still used your handyman skills putting it together.

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Do you have a circular saw? Just clamp a straight piece of wood to guide the blade and you'll get square cuts. A small table saw isn't going to work unless you have a nice table around it to hold the excess wood.

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Sorry, I cannot be of help, but had to comment:

I admire your determination or how much free time you have. Sounds like a good project, but for $300 you could have bought a nice one and still used your handyman skills putting it together.
Haha...yeah I agree. But, it was more an ego thing + I want to make some more stuff, so it was practice. We decided to buy this place, and we have a home office that needs desks/bookshelves/etc and a home bar that needs a bar and shelves/etc behind it. After lots of research into woodworking and building the stuff, I thought I could do it, she said I couldn't, so my ego took over.

I do admire all the woodworkers out there and now totally understand why custom stuff costs thousands of dollars. Seems so simple, but definitely not.

And I do not have lots of free time, I basically worked on it all of one Sunday (picking/buying the wood/planning/etc) and about 2 hours each night from like 9 to 11. I hope to finish it this Sunday.

We didn't want to do the IKEA route for this stuff, as we wanted it to be real wood to match our "design" ideas for each room, and I figure I could build this basic stuff, and a handyman friend of mine could help me with the more detailed stuff.

But this darn saw is pulling one over on me.
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Do you have a circular saw? Just clamp a straight piece of wood to guide the blade and you'll get square cuts. A small table saw isn't going to work unless you have a nice table around it to hold the excess wood.
I'll have to give this a try. I did use a circular saw for some test pieces, but turned out bad. But that saw is just old and crappy, maybe its time for a new one!! The lady will like that idea.

I'm also debating looking for a local lumber yard to do the cuts.
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I hear you and good luck. If you endup wanting to take a simpler route for some other things, this is where I bought my desk, to my surprise it is of very good quality.

http://cymax.com/NoBot/Bush-WC81430-...Shape-Desk.htm

This cymax place has many other stores (furnture, patio, bars) with pretty darn good prices. Basically, they get the stuff straight from the manufacturer and ship it on a palet straight to your house. I was also able to negotiate the price down a bit.

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Wrong tool .....


Hard to make long straight cuts on a table saw without rollers and helpers.


Using a circular saw with a finish blade and a rip-fence ( straight-edge ) or
the bolt on cutting guide would be the right way to get your nice even cut.


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home depot will cut it for you
Yeah, I know...but...I've heard some horror stories about the cuts being way off. Cuts like 1/4" off would aggrivate me because I would know. Plus the 4 X 8 of maple is like $45 and I don't want them to ruin a sheet with some uneven cuts. I'd almost rather me ruin it then someone else. Though I have heard of others that say HD cut them well for them. Some I'm unsure of this route. Thanks for the tip though.
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Wrong tool .....


Hard to make long straight cuts on a table saw without rollers and helpers.


Using a circular saw with a finish blade and a rip-fence ( straight-edge ) or
the bolt on cutting guide would be the right way to get your nice even cut.


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Thanks Blarney. I always thought that a long straight cut was what a table saw was for!?! I do have one of those roller stands, and a friend that could help, but I'll research circular saw cutting more.
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wrong tool .....


Hard to make long straight cuts on a table saw without rollers and helpers.


Using a circular saw with a finish blade and a rip-fence ( straight-edge ) or
the bolt on cutting guide would be the right way to get your nice even cut.


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Make sure that you have a decent finish cut blade in either the table saw or the circular saw if you end up using it. You do not want to cut a piece of maple plywood with a rough-cut blade, it will look like shit.

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But But his ego.

You will learn your ego will get you into more shit unless you learn to set it aside

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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One more option.....

You could have Home Depot cut it close and then use a router and straightedge to get
to the final dimension and clean up the cuts.


You would have to stand there to insure their cuts were square, straight and within 1/4" or so.


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Ok, so the g/f told me that I couldn't build a good looking desk. So, I couldn't sleep becuase it irritated me. I spent the whole night planning how I'd build it, then went to HD in the morning, bought wood, and built it.

Now, its no woodworkers super craftsmanship or anything like that, and definitely a lot of cheating, but its solid, looks straight (looks like an executive desk) and will work fine for our home office. But...

I need to put the top on. I have a 4X8 sheet of Maple Plywood and for the life of me I cannot get straight cuts on my table saw. The fence only goes out 13" and this would be bigger then that (cutting off the excess). I've tried with shorter pieces as well (for the drawer fronts) and still not 100% perfect. The saw is a craftsman standard home type table saw.

What am I doing wrong?!? Any tips/help?? I really need to make the top perfect as it's what will be most visible. If it's not square, it'll be visible.


give up its hopeless

and breakup with the g/f out of spite

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But But his ego.

You will learn your ego will get you into more shit unless you learn to set it aside
It gets you in trouble if you think you can fight a guy whos 50lbs heavier in muscle and fights MMA in a bar... that's not my ego.

When a girl says you can't build a desk...and you do, your ego's not hurting you.
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Haha...it's not hopeless!! The desk looks great. I just don't want to butcher the top, that'll ruin the whole thing.
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It gets you in trouble if you think you can fight a guy whos 50lbs heavier in muscle and fights MMA in a bar... that's not my ego.

When a girl says you can't build a desk...and you do, your ego's not hurting you.
You have a lot to learn my friend. You may be head of house hold but the neck is what turns the head.

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Did someone say "wood" ?
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Never go against a women when it evolves your ego she can and will bruise the hell out of it to prove a valid point



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Too much to say to that, not going to comment on it as its not necessary in the thead, I'll just say its all in the person you date/love/marry and the relationship you have.

"Never go against a women when it evolves your ego she can and will bruise the hell out of it to prove a valid point"

Woudn't ever find myself in that type of relationship / with that type of person. If that was the case, I would have kept searching.
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I did all the kitchen cabinets in my place with a circular saw, a router and straight edge. I used 13 ply Baltic Birch Plywood, there is a technique to cutting any plywood, a good blade helps, but doing a scoring cut first is the secret. Set the blade depth to @ 1/16" and score the cut, then set the blade to the proper depth, remember you want the "good" face of the plywood on the bottom if using a circular saw, the good side of the face up on a tablesaw.

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Ok, so the g/f told me that I couldn't build a good looking desk. So, I couldn't sleep becuase it irritated me. I spent the whole night planning how I'd build it, then went to HD in the morning, bought wood, and built it.

Now, its no woodworkers super craftsmanship or anything like that, and definitely a lot of cheating, but its solid, looks straight (looks like an executive desk) and will work fine for our home office. But...

I need to put the top on. I have a 4X8 sheet of Maple Plywood and for the life of me I cannot get straight cuts on my table saw. The fence only goes out 13" and this would be bigger then that (cutting off the excess). I've tried with shorter pieces as well (for the drawer fronts) and still not 100% perfect. The saw is a craftsman standard home type table saw.

What am I doing wrong?!? Any tips/help?? I really need to make the top perfect as it's what will be most visible. If it's not square, it'll be visible.

Dude, thats the oldest trick in the book bro, " I bet you cant do that" You GF sounds pretty good at getting what she wants outta of her man.

You should throw it back to her and say " I bet you cant swallow my Tennis ball can of a dork" Lets see how much action she takes to " Get that job done for her MAN" Then youll build the fuckin desk!

Bro You sure fell for that one! But we always cut the Polish guys some slack!

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Dude, thats the oldest trick in the book bro, " I bet you cant do that" You GF sounds pretty good at getting what she wants outta of her man.

You should throw it back to her and say " I bet you cant swallow my Tennis ball can of a dork" Lets see how much action she takes to " Get that job done for her MAN" Then youll build the fuckin desk!

Bro You sure fell for that one! But we always cut the Polish guys some slack!
Haha...thanks. I'll try that on her. No no, the desk is for me (home office). Not her. She would rather we just buy the stuff because shes that type. I'm more of a do it yourselfer...rather I would like to be a do it yourselfer. I'm book smart, that's why she thinks I couldn't do it...but just because you have an MBA doesn't mean you can't build a desk!! I would like to do more stuff myself, especially now that we'll be homeowners. Paying someone to do everything will be very costly.
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Ok boys and girls. Thanks for the tips.

I've got a good circular saw with a good blade. Going to try that route by attaching the 2X4 as a guide and we'll see what happens. I'll update when I'm done.
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Ok boys and girls. Thanks for the tips.

I've got a good circular saw with a good blade. Going to try that route by attaching the 2X4 as a guide and we'll see what happens. I'll update when I'm done.
you better make sure that 2X4 isn't warped.

I would rather use a level, or home depot sells the bar to cut straight lines. And clamp it down good.
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All of you that say table saw can't make long straigh cuts must've used some fucked up cheapo table saws, or must've been drunk or under influence of some drug
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All of you that say table saw can't make long straigh cuts must've used some fucked up cheapo table saws, or must've been drunk or under influence of some drug
You need a good table around it and a good fence.

Good luck with the circular saw, and I would also recommend something straighter than a 2x4. They might not be straight, and they also might not sit flat on the table making it hard to run the saw. You can have home depot rip a straight edge off the sheet. Their cuts aren't dead on for size, but they are straight.

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... and you're still talking about wood, I see.....

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