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Can anyone recommend a wheelie school please? www.ononewheel.com seems to be gone.

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You have an FZ-1? 1st, 2nd and prolly 3rd gear as well... just crack open the throttle and cover the rear brake. First you want to get used to the sensation of the front getting light, then slightly off the ground and eventually to balance point. Take it slow and easy and do NOT practice on the roads. I prefer an empty parking lot or deserted industrial area. You can still get in trouble for doing this in these areas but at least you won't hurt anyone but yourself. Just watch out for the pigs.

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okay heres your steps...

1st check with your insurance company (medical insurance) to make sure the cover you for when you flip the bike.

2nd. get going down the road at a nice comfortable pace
3rd. when ready cover your rear and since your on a liter bike. pop the clutch up to about 9-10k. let her out and hit the throttle

and most important
4th. SMACK YOUR SELF SILLY if you actually considered trying this as ive never pulled a wheelie in my life.

Everyone needs a healthy way to relax, mine Church, and two wheels, a stretch of winding road, and a pipe loud enough to give me headaches and make squirrels explode. (Fixed curtousey of PWRMAD)

Nothing is impossible the second we say ill try your already admiting you can be defeated, and the second you say i cant or its to hard youve already failed.
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okay heres your steps...

1st check with your insurance company (medical insurance) to make sure the cover you for when you flip the bike.

2nd. get going down the road at a nice comfortable pace
3rd. when ready cover your rear and since your on a liter bike. pop the clutch up to about 9-10k. let her out and hit the throttle

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4th. SMACK YOUR SELF SILLY if you actually considered trying this as ive never pulled a wheelie in my life.
Then why are you giving him advice on how to do one?

Drop the clutch at 9k RPMS on that bike and you'll be on your ass in about 0.5 seconds. Get used to power wheelies, then try clutch ups.

Power wheelies are easy, get going 30 mph or so, that way the bike is gyroscopically stable, lay off the throttle and then smack it open, the front end will lift and you'll be able to get a feel for what this is like. After practicing this a few hundred times, try clutch ups. These take a little more finesse, keep a steady hand on the throttle, pull the clutch in for a half a second and then drop it while staying on the throttle. Front end should lift a foot or more and get you into a good position. Always cover the rear brake and make sure you're moving along at a good 25-35 mph minimum before trying this, otherwise the bike will be very hard to control, especially if you're not perfectly centered on it.

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But a $1k dirtbike to practice wheelies on. It's much cheaper than fixing a sportbike.
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^^^ Ditto

I didn't dump my bike, but I have come close a few times. I still can't ride the balance point, just for fear of back flipping the bike.

GET the dirt bike. You will be more happy in the end. That and slow speed crashes hurt less.

On a related note, I watched a 12 year old kid on a dirt bike pull a perfect balance point wheelie up and over his driveway while I passed him on my ride today. Yeah....... I really need to practice more.
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okay heres your steps...

1st check with your insurance company (medical insurance) to make sure the cover you for when you flip the bike.

2nd. get going down the road at a nice comfortable pace
3rd. when ready cover your rear and since your on a liter bike. pop the clutch up to about 9-10k. let her out and hit the throttle

and most important
4th. SMACK YOUR SELF SILLY if you actually considered trying this as ive never pulled a wheelie in my life.
did you just tell this person to clutch up a literbike (4 cyl one at that) at 9-10k?

You've never ridden anything bigger than a 600 have you?

side note.. covering is good advice but chances are someone learning is not going to need it.. beginners think 6" off ground is high.. and that is quite a bit from balance point..

literbikes are wheelied on throttle.. usually

let off the throttle just a little bit to drop a wheelie
do not chop it
do not touch the rear brake
it will slam down very hard on its nose and you might lose it from that...

just like everything else on a bike.. nice and easy.. then work into doing things as you get it down pat

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read the last line yall it says smack your self silly if your thinking on following my advice...... as in its a joke. havent riden a liter bike but know full on you dont need to dump the clutch on a liter bike.
and yes pilot. i know 9-10k is excessive especailly on a 1k since most 1k's only redline at about 13-14k anways.

my best advice as ive been tempted to try a whellie as well.....eaither toy with it very carefully or even better dont whellie. and find some twistys

Everyone needs a healthy way to relax, mine Church, and two wheels, a stretch of winding road, and a pipe loud enough to give me headaches and make squirrels explode. (Fixed curtousey of PWRMAD)

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read the last line yall it says smack your self silly if your thinking on following my advice...... as in its a joke. havent riden a liter bike but know full on you dont need to dump the clutch on a liter bike.
and yes pilot. i know 9-10k is excessive especailly on a 1k since most 1k's only redline at about 13-14k anways.

my best advice as ive been tempted to try a whellie as well.....eaither toy with it very carefully or even better dont whellie. and find some twistys
might not be a popular thing to say
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wheelies are fun
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But a $1k dirtbike to practice wheelies on. It's much cheaper than fixing a sportbike.
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I *totally* suck at wheelies, but even I could effortlessly wheelie Yami 125cc 4-stroke dirtbike (WFO and dump clutch ).

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hehe well...thanks for the advice guys. I was kinda hoping of doing a school, to avoid the whole flip over scenario. I want to get a supermoto eventually but I thought a school would be a good idea.
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Trkyleg from here is (I think) still selling his YZ80 for $800? Buy it, learn wheelies, sell for the same price in 6 months.
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might not be a popular thing to say
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wheelies are fun
It may not be popular to say it but most of the more experienced riders I've ridden with on the board have all popped a spirited wheelie here and there. It is fun and gives you that rush back, even if it's for a moment, like what it used to feel the first few times on a bike and whacking the throttle while watching the world slip away in a blur.

But yeah, definitely exercise extreme caution while trying wheelies for the first time as the sensation is almost too much at first. If your gut tells you to stop what you're doing then listen to it as wheelies are not for everyone. Most of the people on the board that have been riding for a long time know how to and have stunted in the past but no longer do it because it may not be fun to them anymore.

The more and more I ride the more I find myself going through stages about the way I feel about riding and the way that I ride. It is very much like growing up and maturing. Some of us choose to be infantile for the rest of our lives while some of us move on to other aspects of riding.

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Watch this guys videos, he guides you through his learning experience until he pops his first wheelie. One of the good tutorials I have found online

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FZ-1? - Roll in first to about 5K - Let off a tad and crack hard with a bounce and watch the front rise - Prob the same in 2nd with a tad bit of a tug - Not much for clutch ups and still learning them myself - Cover rear brake and just get comfortable with lifting the front higher each time

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Watch this guys videos, he guides you through his learning experience until he pops his first wheelie. One of the good tutorials I have found online
Probably one of the more realistic learning videos, but holy crap that's 10 minutes of boring stuff.

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Watch this guys videos, he guides you through his learning experience until he pops his first wheelie. One of the good tutorials I have found online

did he say full throttle at the balance point?
me thinks perhaps he is not expert enough to be teaching people yet.

this is like a first time to the track novice teaching as an instructor at superbike school (or insert whichever other school there)
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Can anyone recommend a wheelie school please? www.ononewheel.com seems to be gone.

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I met that guy a few times... He gave it up? that sucks.

I actually rode his wheelie machine.. and popped for the wife and her girlfriend to do it as well.. Lots of fun (wife or gf had never been on a bike before.. strapping them on a zx10r and having them wheelie was a blast )
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Probably one of the more realistic learning videos, but holy crap that's 10 minutes of boring stuff.
true that, reality can be boring. that's why I prefer mental wheelies
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Pm grim46, he attended a wheelie school a few years ago. Not sure if it's the same one you mentioned.
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Some tips:
Make sure your handlebars are straight while setting the wheelies back down, tankslappers suck.

Make sure you set them down softly or you will be headed to the shop to repair your fork seals.

Covering the rear brake: Some say do it, others say modulate with the throttle, I say use the rear brake, modulating with the throttle will cause the dreaded weave youve seen in the videos where people crash their wheelies.

Balance point: Get over that fear and sensation of flipping backwards, when first starting out, and you have that sensation, you probably have another 30-40 degrees before you are actually there.

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Don't worry about the oil pump losing suction while you're doing your balance point wheelie either. That will just mess with your mind.

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Don't worry about the oil pump losing suction while you're doing your balance point wheelie either. That will just mess with your mind.
I doubt the 3 second wheelies that will be obtained will present an oil starving issue.

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