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Seriously

WTF???

Watching a parade of motorcycles follow a Toyota Camry around a racetrack is not racing.... And how many times is this what we saw today?

MotoST was the worst. Don't run half the race under yellow with a pace car "just to finish it out" that's not a race. That's a parade

If no more position changes are going to be allowed because it's scary and wet out. Call the damned race. Don't just roll around in circles with everyone wondering WTF you're doing

I talked to a corner worker about it by the kink and he didn't seem to be all that enthused about the new "follow the family sedan" racing either

There was some great racing out there today. Just seems to me it was in spite of not due to DMG



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If you are going to send a car out there everyone has to follow without passing. At least make it interesting. Say an F1 car . Not a grocery getter

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And another thing

Whoever was the moron at the AMA who decided to sell motorcycle racing to what most motorcyclists consider to be he lowest form of racing.... You should be fired and given a venerial disease

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Looked really consistent out there. Great form in the wet and you were spot on that thin dry line.

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Seriously

WTF???

Watching a parade of motorcycles follow a Toyota Camry around a racetrack is not racing.... And how many times is this what we saw today?
why do you think I rip on ricers. take an economy car and try to make it fast. 4 cylinder + turbo still not fast. 8000hp dragster=fast.

Now you have toyota coming into american racing.



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why do you think I rip on ricers. take an economy car and try to make it fast. 4 cylinder + turbo still not fast. 8000hp dragster=fast.

Now you have toyota coming into american racing.



okay, i'm done, and if this even posts i'm lucky cuz im getting database errors 95% of the time.
You do realize that the Camry is one of 2 cars in Napcar thats actually BUILT in the US?


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why do you think I rip on ricers. take an economy car and try to make it fast. 4 cylinder + turbo still not fast. 8000hp dragster=fast.

Now you have toyota coming into american racing.



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Ig-no-rant. WTF does that statement have to with the AMA 'safety car'? I don't think a dragster is going to make any of the turns. And I bet all three of my 4 cylinder + turbo cars will clobber your big american iron...oh yeah that's right you have a Fiero. Nevermind. Not even a challenge.

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Whoever was the moron at the AMA who decided to sell motorcycle racing to what most motorcyclists consider to be he lowest form of racing.... You should be fired and given a venerial disease
First off, the AMA is a nonprofit organization.
They did not just sell Pro Road racing.
They Sold ALL pro racing (with the exception of Supercross).

The AMA is there to protect the rights of motorcycles.
Even the ones that complain all the freaking time, about everything.

The AMA was not build and funded, just to entertain you.
Sorry.

As far as the pace car.
Poof... its gone, there will be a Buell doing pace car duties in the near future.

There is a safety reason for the Pace car.
Where you like it or not.
Maybe you should go watch NASCAR if you only want to see people crash.

Might I also remind you...
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Then why doens't MotoGP or WSBK use one? The pace-car/bike/whatever is a terrible addition. In years of watching professional races I've noticed that the AMA has way more red flags in races as any of the other motorcycle series do.

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Then why doens't MotoGP or WSBK use one? The pace-car/bike/whatever is a terrible addition. In years of watching professional races I've noticed that the AMA has way more red flags in races as any of the other motorcycle series do.
Actually...
Both WSBK and Moto GP have and use pace cars.
Next time you see a race, watch the warm-up lap.
They have Trailing cars.
If I am not mistaken, the pace car leads them on a sighting lap prior to the warm-up lap.

As far as when they are used, there is a difference.
How often do you see a red flag in MotoGP? or WSBK?

DMG as opted to try something to control safety without pulling the bikes of off course.
It is NOT for entertainment value, it is for Safety.
It is a new system, it may not work the best at the moment.
I'm sure DMGs efforts are to make it as safe as possible for the riders.

As far as more red flags.
Talk to the racers... DMG does not control what they do.

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First off, the AMA is a nonprofit organization.
They did not just sell Pro Road racing.
They Sold ALL pro racing (with the exception of Supercross).

The AMA is there to protect the rights of motorcycles.
Even the ones that complain all the freaking time, about everything.

The AMA was not build and funded, just to entertain you.
Sorry...........
You would be incorrect with this statement...The AMA was formed in 1924 as an industry organization with the sole purpose of replacing the Motorcycle and Allied Trades Association as the sanctioning body and rulesmaking body of motorcycle racing.
It's role as a service organization and a motorcyclists rights organization didn't evolve and emerge until the 1960's, and its venture into rights and government relations didn't really get serious until the late '70's.
The AMA made some mistakes and blunders along the way, but it was the AMA that developed, built and made pro racing in this country and did it while also building a tremendous amateur racing program based on the clubs as promoters which is still the backbone of grassroots developement of future pro stars of the sport.
I have alot to say about this subject, but I want to avoid totally hijacking the thread so I'll leave it at this...I have been watching the changes at the AMA for the past 2 years with the hope that they would be good changes that would improve the organization in all of its missions. What I see I am furious with and I think the wholsale selling of pro racing to DMG was a BIG mistake...I agree...the moron who sold pro racing to DMG should be fired!
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Both WSBK and Moto GP have and use pace cars.
They are not used in the same way. I have yet to see a GP race where the cars come back on track and all the rider's follow the car around for 6 laps.

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Ig-no-rant. WTF does that statement have to with the AMA 'safety car'? I don't think a dragster is going to make any of the turns. And I bet all three of my 4 cylinder + turbo cars will clobber your big american iron...oh yeah that's right you have a Fiero. Nevermind. Not even a challenge.
ya thats right, i have a "stock" fiero

I'm sure when I get done modifying my oldschool bug, it'll take on your ricers.
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I won't hold my breath. When you're done modifying it I should just about have my Aluminum Falcon converted to run on stale pizza crust and peanut shells. Then we can race your beetle in Fantasy-Land. The Jackalope will be our witness.

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Only takes me less than 3 hours to build a bug motor. Repairing the body is a bigger project. But if you want to lend me a few grand so i can beat your ricers, I'm all for donations.
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That motoST race was fuckin garbage. That stupid pace car crap had NOTHING to do with safety. In each of the 2 crashes in my field of view (one in 7 and 8) the bike and rider were cleared quickly and the pace car continued for 4-6 laps (10-15 minutes 3x of a 120 minute "race") after the situation was clear. It was obviously not safety related, it was to let everyone bunch up again.
It doesn't matter whether it's a pace car or a pace buell. It's stupid.
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This should be taken to another thread but i TOTALLY agree with you sadrach! Everyone talks shit about 4 cylinder turbos being ricers and a waste of time. when was the last time you saw a 900hp domestic that gets 25-30 mpg

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The one thing I thought was dumb with the pace car was the, let's keep it out there for one more lap till the whole pack has caught up. Ok, well maybe one more lap till there all caught up?!?!?!

What is that?

If I had a huge gap on someone and the criteria was lets wait up for everyone to catch up how is that fair?
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and I'd say you seem to be a pretty cool guy...
and rumor has it a fast one at that.

But I am going to go out on a limb here and bet you weren't there
and obviously you didn't watch it live.. as well.. that's no more either...

So you have no idea what you are talking about in this specific instance... Now do you?

Yet here ya are.. Attempting to call me out for doing the very thing you are actually doing...

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First off, the AMA is a nonprofit organization.
They did not just sell Pro Road racing.
They Sold ALL pro racing (with the exception of Supercross).

The AMA is there to protect the rights of motorcycles.
Even the ones that complain all the freaking time, about everything.

The AMA was not build and funded, just to entertain you.
Sorry.

As far as the pace car.
Poof... its gone, there will be a Buell doing pace car duties in the near future.

There is a safety reason for the Pace car.
Where you like it or not.
Maybe you should go watch NASCAR if you only want to see people crash.

Might I also remind you...
Before DMG, pro-racing sucked... just in a different way.

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This should be taken to another thread but i TOTALLY agree with you sadrach! Everyone talks shit about 4 cylinder turbos being ricers and a waste of time. when was the last time you saw a 900hp domestic that gets 25-30 mpg

Hell my 4cyl turbo was lucky to get 15mpg.

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them waiting for a field of riders who could not keep up in the first place was dumb. even the rider who crashed would be back up to the pace car waiting for the slower riders to catch up so they could restart. 6 lap "pace car" at road america was like watching paint dry.. even nesba Novice group is more exciting to watch.

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them waiting for a field of riders who could not keep up in the first place was dumb. even the rider who crashed would be back up to the pace car waiting for the slower riders to catch up so they could restart. 6 lap "pace car" at road america was like watching paint dry.. even nesba Novice group is more exciting to watch.
6 laps or more behind a pace car under a yellow waiting for the checker
wtf was that?
seriously?
if it is to dangerous to race in the rain cuz wet pavement is something these pros cant handle anymore... then ... don't

Don't just have them parade around at roughly the same speed as all the trikes and whatnot during the salute to cycles parade... (not in reply to mopar.. more agreeing with)

I had some interesting conversations on the side.. Need to get everything settled so I have a few minutes to sit down.. that will happen after baby goes to sleep
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The one thing I thought was dumb with the pace car was the, let's keep it out there for one more lap till the whole pack has caught up. Ok, well maybe one more lap till there all caught up?!?!?!

What is that?

If I had a huge gap on someone and the criteria was lets wait up for everyone to catch up how is that fair?
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them waiting for a field of riders who could not keep up in the first place was dumb. even the rider who crashed would be back up to the pace car waiting for the slower riders to catch up so they could restart. 6 lap "pace car" at road america was like watching paint dry.. even nesba Novice group is more exciting to watch.
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6 laps or more behind a pace car under a yellow waiting for the checker
wtf was that?
seriously?
if it is to dangerous to race in the rain cuz wet pavement is something these pros cant handle anymore... then ... don't

Don't just have them parade around at roughly the same speed as all the trikes and whatnot during the salute to cycles parade... (not in reply to mopar.. more agreeing with)

I had some interesting conversations on the side.. Need to get everything settled so I have a few minutes to sit down.. that will happen after baby goes to sleep
this is what I was saying...

In CCS we either red flag the race b/c it's unfit to race and there's too many riders down, all ambulances on the track etc. But once the issue is resolved the race can be restarted, or caution flag waves in the corner until the bike or rider are clear of an impact zone.

Not, well the whole freaking pack of every class bike hasn't caught up to 1st place on a 4 MILE TRACK.

yeah that may lead to more interesting racing but it might cause more crashes bunching everyone back up again not to mention watching parade laps is boring.

Other than that some great racing today. I have some DanO, Ron, and Ray pics that you can actually see the bikes on but they're no where near gron quality. Great job this weekend guys!

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if it is to dangerous to race in the rain cuz wet pavement is something these pros cant handle anymore... then ... don't
i sure as hell didn't see a pace car in front of us or any other group on saturday while riding on the F4T. the rain didn't stop some groups from hitting triple digit speeds either. crazy bastards.

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This should be taken to another thread but i TOTALLY agree with you sadrach! Everyone talks shit about 4 cylinder turbos being ricers and a waste of time. when was the last time you saw a 900hp domestic that gets 25-30 mpg
Wat? a turbo vw aircooled bug is a ricer?

people talk shiet about fast and furious cars and the whole drifting crap.


And domestics had 4 cylinder turbos big time in the 80s. A lot of them had good hp numbers when the boost was jacked up.
Dodge had one(that I know) mopar know more
Ford had couple
GM had their 6 cylinder grand national. and thats an awesomeness car.

and heres the twin turbo dodge



And I didn't know you can get great fuel mileage going fast. a lot of cars can get great fuel mileage at cruise. Ford mustang beat the ricer WRX in fuel mileage. DAMN

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i personally think we would all be safer if we had a pace car to lead us around and keep us all in nice and tidy order... nobody going to fast, nobody passing anyone up.. Just following around our little pace car and doing our thing..

Now that's riding!


This is how the pro's do it now... You crazy streeters think you're better than the pro'[email protected]!??

I think not
shit... I feel safer just looking at that picture.
Why should those guys have to go out there and risk life and limb for our enjoyment or excitement.. Going 30mph around the track is much safer
and that in the end is really what is most important

shit
im gonna have to copy/paste this shit into my thread bitching about dmg
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The Wraith (M4S) never was a production car. Never was inteneded to either. Just happened to turn the crank of a movie producer who thought it would be great in a film. Only production twin turbo Dodge was the Stealth RT (actually a rebadged Mitsubishi 3000VR4). Dodge probably built more turbo models in the 80's and 90's than Ford or GM did combined.

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The Wraith (M4S) never was a production car. Never was inteneded to either. Just happened to turn the crank of a movie producer who thought it would be great in a film. Only production twin turbo Dodge was the Stealth RT (actually a rebadged Mitsubishi 3000VR4). Dodge probably built more turbo models in the 80's and 90's than Ford or GM did combined.
Ford had 3, might be more. Mercur(ford motor), mustang, and tbird. Don't recall if the ford ranger had a turbo with theirs.

fiero almost came out with a turbo in 85 but that was stopped. Rumors, it would be faster than the vette. And that was the same with the grand national being speed limited(tires)


I think dodge had another one besides the stealth. I can't think of the name. They tried to sell it to me instead of a fiero. i think it was in the wraith movie.


My main point is people think they got bragging rights with their ricers when it has already been done. I'd rather have my cars be quick enough for commuting and spend my money on more motorcycles which can hit 10 seconds easily.
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Ford had 3, might be more. Mercur(ford motor), mustang, and tbird. Don't recall if the ford ranger had a turbo with theirs.

fiero almost came out with a turbo in 85 but that was stopped. Rumors, it would be faster than the vette. And that was the same with the grand national being speed limited(tires)


I think dodge had another one besides the stealth. I can't think of the name. They tried to sell it to me instead of a fiero. i think it was in the wraith movie.


My main point is people think they got bragging rights with their ricers when it has already been done. I'd rather have my cars be quick enough for commuting and spend my money on more motorcycles which can hit 10 seconds easily.
The Stealth was the only TT car sold under Dodge's nameplate. The Conquest was single contrary to what some people claim. There were people who made singles into twins, but nothing from Mopar.

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