***RANT***

I am so fucking sick of people being so nonchalant about crashing.

1.crashing sucks.
2. crashing sucks whether or not someone gets hurt.
3. Crashes because some asshat did a left turn in front of a biker or some other stupid cager shit get my sympathy.
4.Crashes caused by someone riding over their head are stupid.
5. Excuses like gravel, potholes, improperly designed curbs, wet rainy roads etc. are all bullshit. If your paying the fuck attention, you wont hit said gravel, potholes, or curbs, and if you slow the fuck down, the reduced traction in the rain wont be an issue.

Take ownership of your own fukin safety, and you will gain alot more respect from those around you.

Sorry, I had a long weekend and needed to vent, and yes, i have washed the sand out of my mangina.

so true, i say that stuff at each one of my classes.

crashing sucks, and its always human error.

nobody is perfect

i agree. crashing has become such a frequent thing with some of the members on the board that when you hear about it happening, it's (and i really hate to say this) not surprising and almost expected.

it's sad when at the end of a ride, it has to be pointed out that, "hey! no one crashed!"

i hear you, thats why when it happens, one or more can learn from it.

but sorry man i hear and see more bike accidents from idiots taking themselfs out in the wrong place and wrong time.

sure i know kegger is referring to that thread. me i am saying in general.

For what it's worth, I do agree with you Kegger. In the other thread, I was only attempting to convey a "hey, at least the riders are alright even if their bikes are trashed." Does it suck? Definitely! Am I commenting on the circumstances of said crash... how... why... etc. Not at all... all I was trying to say was that I'm glad they're okay.

ive always kinda looked at crash braggers as attention whores. i think unless i had a spectacular, bike flipping down the road where the steering head is ripped off type of crash, very few would know about it.

same here. in fact when i crash again "and i know it will happen" i dont want anyone to come visit me. and if i die cause i wasnt wearing a lid...just pour some beer on the ground for me

heres a drink for all my dead homies

So when a rider goes down on a group ride we're supposed to leave him/her there on the road once we've realized that they're medically stable?

= determined

I am not saying that, just that people dont really absorb the gravity:

if the rider wasnt hurt, the fact is they could have DIED.
if the rider is hurt, the fact is they could have DIED.

There is no such thing as a "not so bad crash", all crashes are bad, and the fact that the person didnt get hurt is just "Luck" at that particular moment with that specific set of circumstances.

As far as the track goes, I expect people to crash (including myself) as I am consciously pushing the limits of my abilities in a controlled environment. Doing it on public roads, and hearing the stories is getting old.

Also, I am not a hypocrite, I have no problem with skilled riders going fast, everyone talks about how fast G2G is on the street- the reality is that he is probably only pushing to 65-75% of his comfort and skill level and leaving some reserves for the "oh shit" that can happen.

If everyone did that we would hear alot less of the crash stories.

Sorry to bring you into this Steve, but I needed an example of what I am trying to get at. Most people think you are going balls out because you're leaving them in the dust, when the reality is that you're well within your comfort zone, and leaving reserve.

Goddamn, I sound like my father more every day.

What the fuck are you talking about?

+1

Kegger

I agree, alot of people leave NO room for "oh shits"...

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See above. When we visit downed riders in the hospital is it because they love the attention?

Again, I ask what the fuck youre talking about. Where did we start the discussion about leaving people on the side of the road?

i personally think we would all be safer if we had a pace car to lead us around and keep us all in nice and tidy order... nobody going to fast, nobody passing anyone up.. Just following around our little pace car and doing our thing..

Now that's riding!


This is how the pro's do it now... You crazy streeters think you're better than the pro'[email protected]!??

I think not
shit... I feel safer just looking at that picture.
Why should those guys have to go out there and risk life and limb for our enjoyment or excitement.. Going 30mph around the track is much safer
and that in the end is really what is most important

shit
im gonna have to copy/paste this shit into my thread bitching about dmg

dont start the take it to the track bullshit...

I'm not saying that. I'm asking if these threads about people crashing are them being attention whores like was said or if it's posting to inform their friends that someone went down. The way it was painted by Downforce and Ken makes it sound like these "crash" threads are done for attention and that they should be ignored.

I'm with you 100% on the people not leaving room for error thing, people riding at or beyond their limit and that being the reason for a lot of crashes. To be 100% honest, that's why I want to try a cruiser for a season, I love my Gixxer but I find myself pushing that envelope too much of the time and I've had a number of close calls (I've said I'm giving up riding at least once or twice on this board) that spook me. I'm going to try slowing down and relaxing for a season, see if that lights my fire as much as wheelies and 160 RWHP.

that's not what that was .. if you are referring to me
was venting about this weekend...
personally rain or shine - i have never followed a pace car around a race track at a track day... guess im just not fast enough to see it up there

only time we were stuck behind one is the parade laps at road america..
i wouldn't call that "taking it to the track" though.. half those people are wearing flip flops and sunglasses

Ah. I think I understand what youre saying now. Im kinda dense.

This is some bad karma kinda shit posting about craashing, but I have a hard time understanding all the crashing on the street. I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong, I've dropped my bike standing still many times, broke the stator cover in Broken Oar's parking lot. But the at-speed crashes on the street, me no understand.

I didn't say anything about ignoring some ones crash. Intact I
Said don't even bother when it happens to me. Mainly cause it will most likely be my fault.

crashlandingsportbikes.com

before the start of the weekend, colleen and I usually make bets on how many members will wad their shit up.

Ok that is actually just sick

Do you box them, place or show? ... or have to pick who and in what order?

Sad, but true... the F4T usually claims more riders then Cheyenne's SR Runs!