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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old 10-08-2009, 05:22 PM Thread Starter
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On the seldom number of occasions when I feel comfortable enough to lean the bike pretty far on the street I have been close to dragging a knee and but I drag my toe instead ... is it b/c of the stock rearsets?

btw: I don't really go too fast, I like keeping my speed pretty constant the hole time, I find it more fun than zooming up on a 4000lb car or minivan.
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Toes on the pegs, heel on the heel guard.

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put the tips of your toes over the foot pegs, and get to the track you squid.
Next year I will be at the first Track Session that you post up.
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Next year I will be at the first Track Session that you post up.
Glad your gonna try to hit the track but i dont post those up.

the track providers do.

or you mean my lil classes?



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Lil' classes sound good, I like to think things like that though b4 I do them.
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dont got much input here just to say.....and not to sound like a broken record but wait till next season at the first trackday to drag knee and not the street the track is a bit more forvgiving then that tree on the side of the road.

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you gonna teach em on that GoldWing?
i could if you need me to show you. but i tell you and show you with a bike in a parked position and then make you guys do drill and i correct verbally till you get it right.

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lol cool I'll bring the beers
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His classes aren't the track (not that they aren't good... I have never done one)..
Just saying there is a big difference in a class in a parking lot and the riding you will be doing at the race track...

There is no way Ken would be comfortable allowing people to push it quite as far in that environment as they are able to at the track.. For that purpose the track is not only safer but it also has onsite EMS if something does go wrong.. and you are in full leathers...

If you are touching toes on that bike it's foot position and body position.. get your toes over the peg.. if you are still scraping pegs/toes like that.. stop riding like that on the street -- You also need to work on and learn body positioning..
There are different levels of aggressiveness in body positioning.. Obviously the knee down ass off stuff is not something you should be doing on the street.. but you will also learn some less aggressive positioning that will get you 60% of the benefit or so.. without begging to get pulled over and scraping up your funky fresh street clothes...

Personally I would recommend doing STT for a first track day... I have now done most of the orgs.. I really liked NESBA's day, however their B group has a bit less instruction (2 sessions off track) vs STT 20 min on track 40 min in class - and some of the B riders in NESBA were quite a bit quicker than many of the STT N riders... While there was no passing... It happened (err.. i know.. I did it once.. and... was dumb enough to not only film it.. bit post it here... ) -- So.. Nothing for or against either org.. but if it was someone I was personally friends with or my wife.. I would say.. STT first for Novice.. get a few miles on the track and learn what you can.. Then try NESBA.. Then just go ahead and sign over your paychecks to both of them
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yeah ill drink em, not you while we pratice..lol
sounds good lol
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sorry... i started writing that post like.. 5 posts ago or more
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sorry... i started writing that post like.. 5 posts ago or more
its cool I'll start saving now, right after I pay for valve & clearance job on my bike & 1pc, good thing I have the whole winter to save.
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its cool I'll start saving now, right after I pay for valve & clearance job on my bike & 1pc, good thing I have the whole winter to save.
How many miles do you have on that heap? In the real world, it may not need a valve check.
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put the tips of your toes over the foot pegs, and get to the track you squid.
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ur not as close as u think...ur just ridin duck footed.

btw draggin a knee on the street means certain death


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If you do not know the history of the bike 17k is a good time for a valve check. www.teammcc.com can take care of you. They serviced 3 of my trumpets and one Duc. The 675 had the engine swapped before I owned it, and after I rode it it had to go back for a coolant leak and a MIL. They took care of it very quicky and professionally. They should do fine with your Daytona 600.
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Wait, you're dragging toes? Damn, first it was gloves, then knees, and now toes. I really gotta get out and ride more cause it seems like I'm missing all the fun.

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Wait, you're dragging toes? Damn, first it was gloves, then knees, and now toes. I really gotta get out and ride more cause it seems like I'm missing all the fun.
lol I don't wanna drag gloves, knees, or toes on the ground.

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* Gloves - IMO I don't wanna take any control that I may have off the bike on the street.

* Knees - I've only ended up dragging my knee when I needed to get off the bike and let it lean more (cause have gone into corners a lil too fast)

* Toes - yeah I didn't have toes on the pegs ... so yeah my fault.

We have some roads out here outside our hospitals, actually, that are steep incline and declines with nice banked curves w/ 35mph speed limits. The toes dragged when I was leaning into a banked curve, so maybe not as bad?

Overall, I don't think that I ride all that stupid & the hospital is never more than 1/3 of a mile away lol.

EDIT: I've never tried to Drag Gloves ... thats stupid on the street. Unless you have something nasty on your hand lol.

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If you do not know the history of the bike 17k is a good time for a valve check. www.teammcc.com can take care of you. They serviced 3 of my trumpets and one Duc. The 675 had the engine swapped before I owned it, and after I rode it it had to go back for a coolant leak and a MIL. They took care of it very quicky and professionally. They should do fine with your Daytona 600.

Yeah MCC said I could just wait a while - cause it sounded good, but I wanted to get the brake fluid changed and according to Triumph I was supposed to do Valve stuff at 12k or 13k but either way, when I give it to them to work on they will just factor in storage fee with it and work on it whenever they have time. So yeah I don't mind having them do it.
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Do you understand that your body position manipulates the lean angle of the motorcycle? Dragging parts of your motorcycle is not cool. It may make a cool grinding sound, but it is definitely not cool.

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Do you understand that your body position manipulates the lean angle of the motorcycle? Dragging parts of your motorcycle is not cool. It may make a cool grinding sound, but it is definitely not cool.
I don't ever drag parts of my bike.
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everyone has you covered here with all the advice.

just to add...

its very easy to be dragging your boot if its positioned wrong. countless times I have pulled off the track from a session and be out of foot and body position and drag my boot when exiting the track just cruising to the pits. the fastest street rider I have witnessed is probably Joe (wingit) and he carries some crazy lean angle and he still had those stock extention nubby things on the bottom of his pegs and they never hit. on the track those would probably hit. just goes to show you how being aggressive on the street is still way slower than the track. got to know what the limit is for street. so many more factors go into the knowing the limit on the street. so just keep it safe.

but yeah just trying to confirm prolly chalk it up to improper footing and and possibly the addition of improper body postion.

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