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Need advice: what do I do about my boss?

So part of my job is to give presentations to business clients and tours of my office (OrbitzTLC center). I've been doing this for almost 7 years and I've become very good at it, plus I've had a decent amount of media training. I also enjoy doing them.

I get requested specifically by the sales team to give tours and presentations about our office and what we do all the time. However, whenever my boss is in the office he likes to take over and give it. And I must admit his presentations are pretty bad.

I have a great rhythm, I hit all the main points in order so they make sense, and I make sure I tailor my presentations to the audience, and I convey a great enthusiasm about what we do. He, OTOH, jumps all over the place so the clients sometimes actually look confused. He'll talk about one thing, then remember another and talk about it, then go back to another. The sales staff sometimes even have looks on their face like "uhhhh."

He's a great boss, he lets me run my team as I see fit, he communicates with me, and we get along well. It's just I'm very particular about these presentations and he ruins them.

How do I tell him to just let me do these tours?

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He doesn't but he does sign my review which bonuses and pay raises are tied to.

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So part of my job is to give presentations to business clients and tours of my office (OrbitzTLC center). I've been doing this for almost 7 years and I've become very good at it, plus I've had a decent amount of media training. I also enjoy doing them.

I get requested specifically by the sales team to give tours and presentations about our office and what we do all the time. However, whenever my boss is in the office he likes to take over and give it. And I must admit his presentations are pretty bad.

I have a great rhythm, I hit all the main points in order so they make sense, and I make sure I tailor my presentations to the audience, and I convey a great enthusiasm about what we do. He, OTOH, jumps all over the place so the clients sometimes actually look confused. He'll talk about one thing, then remember another and talk about it, then go back to another. The sales staff sometimes even have looks on their face like "uhhhh."

He's a great boss, he lets me run my team as I see fit, he communicates with me, and we get along well. It's just I'm very particular about these presentations and he ruins them.

How do I tell him to just let me do these tours?

Do nothing, just volunteer to do them as much as possible. Saying something would cause nothing but trouble

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Sales guys are the devil. Dont ever take their side. They will jump to another gig next year. Your boss is your boss.
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Get one of his peers to drop the suggestion that your tours are superior? Maybe the sales team collectively can suggest you give the tours henceforth.
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Do nothing, just volunteer to do them as much as possible. Saying something would cause nothing but trouble



And as you stated, everyone else knows he is ruining it.

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Sales guys are the devil. Dont ever take their side. They will jump to another gig next year. Your boss is your boss.
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or drop a bag a coke in his jacket pocket and out him as he does one of his walk through.



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PR, Marketing, and the sales team actually request that I do the tours. Usually my boss is in meetings but when he's in the office he just takes over the tour.

So I should just let it be? It sucks because a lot of times our office is what clinches a sale. His tours are pretty bad.

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If your company loses sales due to his ineptitude, things will change. The right people just need to catch on to his being the reason.
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I'd rather say something to him first before we lose any sales because of him. I'm rather fond of this place so I take things personally sometimes.

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I'd rather say something to him first before we lose any sales because of him. I'm rather fond of this place so I take things personally sometimes.
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+1 don't fuck with your boss. I'll give you an example, I once had an employee who wouldn't stop talking about how I don't do shit around the office to other employees. So called other employees told me. I had the motherfucker killed and his mother is now living in Siberia.
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+1 don't fuck with your boss. I'll give you an example, I once had an employee who wouldn't stop talking about how I don't do shit around the office to other employees. So called other employees told me. I had the motherfucker killed and his mother is now living in Siberia.



Ok, I'll let it go.

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I'd rather say something to him first before we lose any sales because of him. I'm rather fond of this place so I take things personally sometimes.
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+1 don't fuck with your boss. I'll give you an example, I once had an employee who wouldn't stop talking about how I don't do shit around the office to other employees. So called other employees told me. I had the motherfucker killed and his mother is now living in Siberia.
Spin it like you're very happily willing to do him the favor of doing them so he doesn't have to be burdened with it.

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES imply that you are better... you are just HELPING/ASSISTING him.

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I disagree about the "do nothing" idea. I'd have a one-on-one with him and voice your concerns as a fellow colleague. Explain the reactions you have gotten when you have done them and suggest to help him do a knock out job when he runs them. Maybe ask him to let you do a couple while he is there so he can see it first hand.

I have a great relationship with my superiors and have never felt threatened with sharing opinion as long as it respectful - as I would expect the other way as well.

It all depends on your relationship and comfort level. If you talk to him in provate and keep it at that, then it's all good.

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I disagree about the "do nothing" idea. I'd have a one-on-one with him and voice your concerns as a fellow colleague. Explain the reactions you have gotten when you have done them and suggest to help him do a knock out job when he runs them. Maybe ask him to let you do a couple while he is there so he can see it first hand.

I have a great relationship with my superiors and have never felt threatened with sharing opinion as long as it respectful - as I would expect the other way as well.

It all depends on your relationship and comfort level. If you talk to him in provate and keep it at that, then it's all good.
I would disagree...his boss sounds like most of my bosses have been, he will never see that he is doing a bad job. By getting off topic and confusing the people, he probably thinks he is providing great inside information that only he could provide.

Let Micheal Scott do his thing and as much you like your job, its just a job.

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You could help him become better. For example, "Have fun giving the new clients the tour, be sure to mention xyz and be sure to focus on the benefits. A good example to give them is..... I have been emphasizing these features and have received really good results and feedback from clients." Lead the horse to the water, if he doesn't drink at least you tried.
I do this with the people that work for me, it works well. Nobody loses face and it empowers them because they get better results. Likewise I am open to their suggestions.

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